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Re: FFconvert
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 08:41
by sc0ttman
wuwei wrote:This application apparently misses some codecs.
I tried to convert a small MPG to AVI with xvid and mp3 codec. No dice. It seems to be missing the needed codecs. You might want to look into the same program in Lucid 528. Seems to have no problems there.
I never had any luck with this program at all! Ever - not with any version! And it bothers me. Any reports, fixes or help I can get in this area will be great... For example, it also reports that lame is not installed, but it is.
Currently Akita is using a version that is built into 'bashbox' .. I may use another one, simply cos others are i18n'd, and I already have a few ffconvert.mo lying around...
Re: Screenshots
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 08:44
by sc0ttman
wuwei wrote:Usually Puppy has mtpaint screen shot, which is fine for entire screen shots.
Akita does not have Tcl/Tk - only 'jimtcl', a tiny, cut-down alternative. Mtpaint-snapshot might still work with jimtcl...
Akita contains PupSnap and that has much more options.
But...it is not retaining the settings from a previous shot. And with 8 positions to fill in, that is a bit cumbersome to do for each and every little shot.
I have PM'd radky about this, it's been 'annoying' me for a long time.
I reaaaally hope we can solve this, the app is great, just needs to remember settings!
Tried the /usr/local/pupsnap directory, but couldn't find anything where one would change the default settings.
I think there are none to edit.
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 11:07
by wuwei
sc0ttman wrote:
The pppoe GUI and terminal messages should be localised, at least in German,
No it isn't in German. That's okay with me, but if that was your goal, it still needs some fixing.
ffconvert:
I never had any luck with this program at all! Ever - not with any version! And it bothers me
You are right. This FFconvert is tricky. Most Puppies don't get it right, yet 528 did, for whatever reason, at least with xvid+mp3.
However, don't worry too much. Anybody with serious video work will anyway use that other OS, that we don't want to mention here.
PupSnap:
it's been 'annoying' me for a long time.
Yes it is a great little application and could do much more than mtscreenshot. If...the remembering can be implemented. Appreciate your work on this.
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 16:31
by sc0ttman
don570 wrote:I tried out 'Akita'
It has the fastest menus I have seen!!
My biggest wish is for a windows list,
so I can quickly see a list of all my open windows.
I may have a huge number open.
Is there any software to do that. The ICEWM has
a tray icon to list the ROX windows.
Maybe someone who knows how to use gtrayicon can do it - it is installed in Akita... OR puptray, the customisable BaCon tray tool... All would be needed is a bash/shell script that monitors open ROX processes, greps the paths and dirs, and updates the puptray config file with the results...
pppoe i18n
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 16:42
by rodin.s
pppoe is gettexted and has Russian mo-file in the archive. You can translate the pot file in poedit and create po and mo files for your language, then place mo-file with name pppoe.mo in /usr/share/locale/??/LC_MESSAGES/
Re: pppoe i18n
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 18:00
by sc0ttman
rodin.s wrote:pppoe is gettexted and has Russian mo-file in the archive. You can translate the pot file in poedit and create po and mo files for your language, then place mo-file with name pppoe.mo in /usr/share/locale/??/LC_MESSAGES/
Hi rodin.s, thanks for clearing that up for me!!
While you're here, can I get something clear for myself...
When using poeditor, to make new translations,
I must open the
.pot file, and NOT the
.po files... right?
What are the
.po files for?
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 19:03
by technosaurus
Shinobar's ffconvert is very similar to my woo-ff frontend to ffmpeg (just the graphical interface is more complicated ...errr... um developed) and as such, depends on the underlying ffmpeg. Unfortunately more capability means more dependencies or a larger ffmpeg (if the dependencies are compiled in statically) I would suggest trying different compiles of ffmpeg + deps ... there are a few in the puppy4 repository @ ibiblio and several in the forum. If you've never compiled it, just let me warn you, just the config options can be complicated ... figure in trying to support older pcs without sacrificing too much performance or blow up the size and it seriously makes you see the advantages of the plugins in gstreamer.
sc0ttman wrote:technosaurus wrote:here is the start of a script to optimize the contents of a directory (for example before you run dir2sfs for the pupXXX.sfs)
That's awesome, I tried running strip on a dir, before rebuilding as an SFS, but it crashed my PC - had to reboot.. I think it had something to do with absolute symlinks pointing to files in my actual filesystem... But I'm gonna try yours today
Thanks
b/c I used the output of file, symlinks are ignored so it _shouldn't_ follow any absolute symlinks
Don't worry about Zip files, afaik the only ones are jar files in mozilla addons
pot and po files
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 19:13
by rodin.s
pot-file is a template. It has only English lines. In poedit you should select File>New catalog from POT file... Then new po-file for particular language will be created. It could be named for example ru.po for Russian. Than you make a translation in poedit and while saving file ru.mo is created which should be renamed as for example pppoe.mo and placed to /usr/share/.../LC_MESSAGES. po-file is for the particular language translation it text form. When you want to change something in translation you edit po-file.
And another useful option is Catalog>Update from POT file... When original script is changed or updated, pot file is changed too. But you don't need to create new po-file and translate again. You just open old po-file and update it from pot file.
POT file itself is created from bash script with gettext by command:
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xgettext -L shell script.sh -o script.pot
If you want just look at it in terminal do this:
And for few scripts to be in one pot file:
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xgettext -L shell -o script.pot -f list_of_scripts.txt
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 19:23
by sc0ttman
Thanks for the info rodin.s, that is much clearer now
I will get 'stuck in' and have a go completing the missing translations (mostly french, some spanish)..
technosaurus wrote:I would suggest trying different compiles of ffmpeg + deps ... there are a few in the puppy4 repository @ ibiblio and several in the forum. If you've never compiled it, just let me warn you, just the config options can be complicated ...
I compiled ffmpeg too many times.. I had a long battle with VLC not liking my new ffmpeg, and not building on it... So I am using the same as Wary 5.1.x ... Excellent multimedia support is a goal of Barrys for Wary, and I like having the Wary mplayer from PPM as an option... I think changing ffmpeg would affect the VLC and mplayer pets in the PPM, right?
I will have to check if ffconvert works in Wary - I would guess it's easier to tweak ffconvert than ffmpeg - not even thinking about keeping VLC and mplayer happy...
I've yet to learn anything about gstreamer, seems quite 'large' to me! But then I was looking at ubuntu blogs and pages...
msgunfmt
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 19:33
by rodin.s
Also it is possible to unpack mo files and turn it into po files (to convert binary to text form).
to see in terminal
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msgunfmt usr_sbin.mo -o usr_sbin.po
Re: Screenshots
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 21:39
by radky
wuwei wrote:Usually Puppy has mtpaint screen shot, which is fine for entire screen shots.
Akita contains PupSnap and that has much more options.
But...it is not retaining the settings from a previous shot. And with 8 positions to fill in, that is a bit cumbersome to do for each and every little shot.
I'd prefer all settings to be saved, once a shot is taken. With the next one, I can just change the file name, maybe the location, but retain all other 6 or 7 positions.
Tried the /usr/local/pupsnap directory, but couldn't find anything where one would change the default settings.
sc0ttman wrote:I have PM'd radky about this, it's been 'annoying' me for a long time.
I reaaaally hope we can solve this, the app is great, just needs to remember settings!
Hi wuwei and sc0ttman,
The current release of Akita has an older version of PupSnap (1.5). The problems you noted in the older release were due to corruption of the pupsnap.rc file when a user exited PupSnap by Alt-F4 or by clicking the X in the title bar. This prevented normal updating of the rc file. The current version of PupSnap (1.6.1) has an enhanced launch wrapper which allows automatic recovery from aborted PupSnap sessions, and prevents corruption of the rc file. I've tested PupSnap-1.6.1 in Akita, and it seems to work just fine.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61361
Thanks for your interest in PupSnap.
Re: Screenshots
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 22:07
by sc0ttman
Yes it does!
I noticed you cannot simply type a new directory - you must click the button to the right and use the chooser, but that's fine with me! Love it.. Such an easy update/fix
And yes, by all means send me your new sysinfobox
Posted: Thu 25 Aug 2011, 23:52
by vanchutr
wwdial won't work if we don't have libstdc++.so.5.0.6 = 714 K (730372 bytes) = 714 K (730372 bytes)
(The old libstdc++.so.5.0.6 is an symlink, i won't work)
Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 00:25
by don570
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 938#556938
I corrected the problem in Zathura with spaces in
filenames and folder names. I now have a new
version 1.8
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But I noticed that the navigation is clunky.
If you click 'Open PDF' thinking that you are opening a folder
you get a blank window.
Very strange???
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Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 00:43
by vanchutr
We can't mount partition etx4 (in akita)
Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:01
by wjaguar
sc0ttman wrote:I also have updated mtpaint - which means I had to add jasper to make it work. So that's an extra 250kb added, at least...
Nothing else needs jasper - can't mtpaint be compiled without? If so, what features would be missing without jasper?
Yes it can be compiled without; and what would be missing is JPEG2000 image format (file extensions .jp2, .jpc, .j2k).
Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:16
by sc0ttman
wjaguar wrote:sc0ttman wrote:I also have updated mtpaint - which means I had to add jasper to make it work. So that's an extra 250kb added, at least...
Nothing else needs jasper - can't mtpaint be compiled without? If so, what features would be missing without jasper?
Yes it can be compiled without; and what would be missing is JPEG2000 image format (file extensions .jp2, .jpc, .j2k).
Hmmm... Does anyone actually use those? I'm not sure I've ever even seen those file formats before!
EDIT: tried compiling it, fails at the make stage, fails at/cant find -lX11 ...
Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:54
by sc0ttman
vanchutr wrote:wwdial won't work if we don't have libstdc++.so.5.0.6 = 714 K (730372 bytes) = 714 K (730372 bytes)
(The old libstdc++.so.5.0.6 is an symlink, i won't work)
Hi vanchutr, thanks for catching the libstdc issue.. I am not sure what to do next, your advice will be greatly appreciated... I have not used wvdial, and I know very little about it...
1. What exactly does wvdial do? Dialup PPP connections? Is it absolutely necessary to have it? Does puppy have other tools which can do the same thing? Roaring Penguin? Or it that something different?
2. Does anyone know of any other programs that require the older 'libstdc++.so.5.0.6', which is currently not included? I could not find any...
3. Can I remove wvdial and libwv (etc) and leave out the older libstdc? If so, I will save around 1mb! If not, the SFS will have to grow by 750kb
We can't mount partition etx4 (in akita)
I don't know much about this either! But I know Puppy 4 did not support ext4..
However, I wanted ext4 working, so I updated e2fsprogs and other packages to the Wary 5.1.x packages.. It seems it is not enough.. I think a new kernel is required, I've read ext4 support is compiled into the kernel (at least in SLAX and a few others).
will show which are supported.. I plan to release an Akita with a Wary 5.1.x kernel, too - maybe that will do the trick.
Again, any advice you have in this area will be great!
don570 wrote:I corrected the problem in Zathura with spaces in
filenames and folder names. I now have a new
version 1.8
Lovely, grabbed, will test, and add soon.. Although I think I already fixed it in 1.7, but I'll update anyway...
Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:59
by wuwei
Thanks radky and sc0ttman.
PupSnap 1.61. does all I have been missing. It is now a useful and convenient tool.
Acidentially, I took this snapshot for you sc0ttman.
It shows an error message when copying a file to a NTFS partition. The file is actually copied alright, but this error message appears, nevertheless.
If it helps you any, this exact same error message came up in spup 121. 01micko seems to have corrected it, because Slacko doesn't show this anymore.
And entirely OT: The words "Knapp" and "Neuere" make no sense at all. This is German alright, but I have no clue, what it could mean here.
I'll see if I find a Puppy on my setup without German localisation and check what it says in English.
Posted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:17
by wuwei
OMG
the English version of that window doesn't make much sense to me either.
Just forget it, it's not an Akita issue, it just shows the limits of my brain.