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Posted: **Thu 20 Jun 2013, 01:15**

precise puppy 5.6.1 hangs on detecting optical input when booting

as reported on precise 5.4.3

as reported on precise 5.5

Posted: **Thu 20 Jun 2013, 02:45**

Hi i am wondering if there is a version of xfce that will run on this Precise Puppy. I have started a thread about xfce click here to view and follow it.

Posted: **Thu 20 Jun 2013, 15:52**

HiDeHo wrote:Hi i am wondering if there is a version of xfce that will run on this Precise Puppy. I have started a thread about xfce click here to view and follow it.

hi hideho ... not a 100% working but mostly http://www.wuala.com/666philb/Documents ... _sfs4.sfs/

Posted: **Sun 23 Jun 2013, 15:20**

goolwa_pup, I have a machine that sometimes hangs during
startup with that "optical input" message on screen. This started
happening with several recent pups. I found that I could work
around the problem by putting "pfix=nox" on the kernel line. Then
once I set up the video driver and created a personal Save file,
I could get rid of the "pfix=nox" and everything would be ok.

I just found that Barry's Raring 5.6.92 alpha doesn't doesn't tend
to hang on the initial startup. Instead, I'm offered keyboard, video
and time zone selections. It may be that pups using his latest woof
will be free of the hang problem.

Art

Posted: **Sun 23 Jun 2013, 22:58**

I have decided to run Precise Puppy 561 again on my Acer Aspire One D257 netbook (you could say this is my main PC).

I had set up my wifi connection, as usual I,

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1.) Run Dougal's Network Wizard
2.)Select wlan0
3.)It asks about the wl module not in the wpa_suppliant list, and as usual I allow it to add the entry.
4.)Press Scan
5.)Select the network
6.)Select Open, WEP, WPA/TSIK, or WPA2 (depends on network)
7.)type in password (if needed)
8.)Press 'save' and then 'use this profile'
9.)Connects to network.
10.) Then I press DHCP.
11.) Done

But it did not connect. the wireless light on my netbook was on, but i could not connect to any site. I rebooted, tried again and same thing. I tried Frisbee, but with no luck either.

Posted: **Mon 24 Jun 2013, 00:16**

artsown wrote:goolwa_pup, I have a machine that sometimes hangs during
startup with that "optical input" message on screen. This started
happening with several recent pups. I found that I could work
around the problem by putting "pfix=nox" on the kernel line. Then
once I set up the video driver and created a personal Save file,
I could get rid of the "pfix=nox" and everything would be ok.

I just found that Barry's Raring 5.6.92 alpha doesn't doesn't tend
to hang on the initial startup. Instead, I'm offered keyboard, video
and time zone selections. It may be that pups using his latest woof
will be free of the hang problem.

Art

thanx artsown .....I will give it a go....however this issue really needs to be addressed by the developers....

Posted: **Mon 24 Jun 2013, 06:26**

bark_bark_bark wrote: 2.)Select wlan0
3.)It asks about the wl module
But it did not connect. the wireless light on my netbook was on, but i could not connect to any site. I rebooted, tried again and same thing. I tried Frisbee, but with no luck either.

Hi bark_bark_bark

1. issue this command in a terminal to determine which chip you have

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lspci -vnn -d 14e4:

2. visit http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Dri ... ed_devices to see which broadcom driver (there are 4 types) is recommended for your chip
3. blacklist wl and reboot to see if a different driver works
4. follow the instructions to do a manual wifi setup at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469 and note any error messages
5. if all that fails, run pdiag in a terminal and post/pm the tarball created
6. report if any of the above gives you success

Cheers
peebee

Posted: **Mon 24 Jun 2013, 08:11**

goolwa_pup wrote:
artsown wrote:goolwa_pup, I have a machine that sometimes hangs during
startup with that "optical input" message on screen. This started
happening with several recent pups. I found that I could work
around the problem by putting "pfix=nox" on the kernel line. Then
once I set up the video driver and created a personal Save file,
I could get rid of the "pfix=nox" and everything would be ok.

I just found that Barry's Raring 5.6.92 alpha doesn't doesn't tend
to hang on the initial startup. Instead, I'm offered keyboard, video
and time zone selections. It may be that pups using his latest woof
will be free of the hang problem.

Art
thanx artsown .....I will give it a go....however this issue really needs to be addressed by the developers....

I gave it a go and yes it worked........then found poweroff doesnt work from menu...poweroffed from terminal...rebooted.... ....and found it was still hanging on booting at recognising optical devices.....went into Lucid Puppy and found there was a save file 2fs created by precise even though i didnt see anything asking for one as it was shutdown from terminal....anyway I have had a look.... didnt like.... and will stick with Lupu for now thanx

Posted: **Mon 24 Jun 2013, 12:41**

When a user chooses a time zone containing a hyphen, quicksetup converts the hyphen to a plus sign. So, for instance, if the user selects "America/Port-au-Prince", quicksetup sets /etc/localtime to point to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Port+au+Prince, a file that doe not exist.

Here is one possible patch (based on quicksetup 2013-05-13 07:52:17 in Woof):

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diff -ur old/quicksetup new/quicksetup
--- old/quicksetup	2013-06-23 15:40:55.476286475 +0000
+++ new/quicksetup	2013-06-23 16:09:59.396079466 +0000
@@ -422,10 +422,8 @@
    CZONE='/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Perth'
    DEF_TIMEZONE='Australia/Perth'
   fi
-  if [ "`echo -n "$DEF_TIMEZONE" | grep 'GMT' | grep '\+'`" = "" ];then #fix sign.
-   DEF_TIMEZONE="`echo -n "$DEF_TIMEZONE" | sed -e 's%Etc/%%' | tr "\-" "\+"`"
-  else
-   DEF_TIMEZONE="`echo -n "$DEF_TIMEZONE" | sed -e 's%Etc/%%' | tr "\+" "\-"`"
+  if echo -n "$DEF_TIMEZONE" | grep -q 'GMT';then #fix sign.
+   DEF_TIMEZONE="`echo -n "$DEF_TIMEZONE" | sed -e 's%Etc/%%' | tr "+-" "-+"`"
   fi
   xDEF_TIMEZONE="`echo -n "$DEF_TIMEZONE" | sed 's%GMT%GMT\\\\%'`"  #the sign needs a \ in front. ex: GMT\+8
   #note, screen out UTC timezone, causes confusion... 111103 screen more...
@@ -1337,10 +1335,8 @@
  [ ! -e /etc/localtime ] && DEF_TIMEZONE="" #111027 precaution.
  if [ "$DEF_TIMEZONE" != "$ZONERETVAL" -o "$HWCLOCKTIME" != "$NEW_HWCLOCKTIME" ];then
   FLAG_CHANGED="${FLAG_CHANGED}${TT_tz2}:yes|"
-  if [ "`echo -n "$ZONERETVAL" | grep 'GMT' | grep '\+'`" = "" ];then
-   ZONERETVAL="`echo -n "$ZONERETVAL" | tr "\-" "\+"`"
-  else
-   ZONERETVAL="`echo -n "$ZONERETVAL" | tr "\+" "\-"`"
+  if echo -n "$ZONERETVAL" | grep -q 'GMT';then
+   ZONERETVAL="`echo -n "$ZONERETVAL" | tr "+-" "-+"`"
   fi
   [ "`echo "$ZONERETVAL" | grep 'GMT'`" != "" ] && ZONERETVAL="Etc/$ZONERETVAL"
   #111103 these are also in Etc dir...

Posted: **Mon 24 Jun 2013, 15:15**

Wow, Great !

Still the GMT time setting on Puppy is WRONG !!

PERTH is GMT+8 !! NOT GMT-8 !!

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-z ... lia/perth/

Posted: **Wed 26 Jun 2013, 03:20**

Downloaded the ISO of new Precise 5.6.1.
FRUGAL Installation on my desktop.
Everything is working fine.
teamviewer8 runs well without any issue.
Skype 4.2 working nicely.
Also installed wine (to use cisco packet tracer). Running nicely without any issue.
Keep it up Guys.
Posting the screenshot:

Posted: **Wed 26 Jun 2013, 19:06**

This is definately nice on an old machine @ work. I also did an install to a USB thumbdrive with unetbootin. The problem is that Unetbootin put everything in the root directory of the thumbdrive and I would rather locate all of the Precise files in a directory. Does anyone have any idea how to do this and which system files need editing. Also, what would be the minimum amount of files in the root directory required for a boot after the Unetbootin install?

Posted: **Wed 26 Jun 2013, 20:41**

Do you need to use unetbootin?

I'm pretty sure grub4dos will do what you want.

Posted: **Thu 27 Jun 2013, 02:48**

linuxbear wrote:This is definately nice on an old machine @ work. I also did an install to a USB thumbdrive with unetbootin. The problem is that Unetbootin put everything in the root directory of the thumbdrive and I would rather locate all of the Precise files in a directory. Does anyone have any idea how to do this and which system files need editing. Also, what would be the minimum amount of files in the root directory required for a boot after the Unetbootin install?

Hi Linuxbear:
As suggested by the smokey01, You can use GRUB4DOS for that.
Here is the link where I post a detail that how to use your Flash Drive for Single or Multiple puppies in USB Drive. It will also work for your HDD (If you want to do.. ) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 8&t=82373/
hope this will helps.
Thnx.
UMAIR

Posted: **Thu 27 Jun 2013, 15:41**

I did an install to a 4gb flash drive using unetbootin.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 27 Jun 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.6.1 Linux 3.2.44 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product:
Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 MHz

I added a few applications with ppm including firefox-22,kdegames, and xbmc.

Posted: **Thu 27 Jun 2013, 18:51**

umair wrote: Hi Linuxbear:
As suggested by the smokey01, You can use GRUB4DOS for that.
Here is the link where I post a detail that how to use your Flash Drive for Single or Multiple puppies in USB Drive. It will also work for your HDD (If you want to do.. ) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 8&t=82373/
hope this will helps.
Thnx.
UMAIR

OK. I will backup, then boot and move all to a folder. It sounds like I can use G4D and then when the machine reboots. I can point the sfs request to the new directory.

Thanks!

Posted: **Sat 29 Jun 2013, 06:17**

The Goole Earth doesn't work in my PC (core2duo with Intel G33 integrated graphics). It's say's I don't have graphics card capable of 3D. Does anybody had success with Google Earth 7 ?

Posted: **Sun 30 Jun 2013, 18:42**

Hi BarryK,

40 days ago I wrote you a message

5.6 - seems fine - thank you.

Now, after extensive use, I aver:
5.6 - is superb - thank you once again.

My regards

Posted: **Tue 02 Jul 2013, 06:06**

Precise 5.61 is speedy and smooth on my eeepc 901. Most items work right away. Sound is great, the touchpad works perfectly, and so on.

The video ... not so much. I'm having trouble with some of the dialogs in Puppy and its programs. They don't seem to fit the 1024 x 600 screen very well.

For example, after examining dependencies in PPM, the Install button is off the bottom of the screen. I can just barely see the top of it if I drag the window as far to the top as I can.

Another example - the preferences dialog in Geany, where the Save button is completely invisible. Again, I can drag the window to the very top of the screen and see just the top of the button. Couldn't read the buttons though, so I had to open the dialog on another computer to see which button to click. And now the dialog is stuck at the top of the screen; I can't grab its title bar to drag it down.

I've run into this problem in several other places, too.

Any idea what can be done? Unfortunately pupeee doesn't seem to be very current.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Posted: **Tue 02 Jul 2013, 07:18**

eeekos, try pressing the Alt key while pressing the left mouse key to move the window.

Try changing the screen resolution with Xorgwizard in the setup menu.

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