(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

I actually just uploaded the 5.6 PAE version today. It can be found on the link in the first post.

Just a note to anyone wondering, I'm planning on uploading 5.6 non-PAE and precise 5.7 (normal and retro) in the next few days. Sorry about the delay.

Nice work!! Thank you for that!!

noryb009 wrote:I actually just uploaded the 5.6 PAE version today. It can be found on the link in the first post.

Just a note to anyone wondering, I'm planning on uploading 5.6 non-PAE and precise 5.7 (normal and retro) in the next few days. Sorry about the delay.

Thanks!

Puppy Linux 5.6 PAE and Non-PAE and Precise Puppy Linux 5.7 have been uploaded. See the link in the first post.

Hello!

Does this installer work with Windows 8 or not yet?

Thank you.

The recently compiled installers (Puppy Linux 570 and Precise 560 and 570) work on Windows 8 when secure boot is off and UEFI is set to Legacy (BIOS) mode.

The 1st post in this topic states that: "PLIC installers work on all versions of Windows, from 95 to 8, except ME".

Has the Windows Installer been updated, so that it also works with Windows ME?

Has the Windows Installer been updated, so that it also works with Windows ME?

No, it has not. ME has a very different boot loader, which makes it hard to load Grub4Dos* (which loads Puppy).

If you have a Windows ME system, and you want to dual-boot, I would recommend doing a frugal installation with Grub4Dos as the bootloader*.

*: Grub4Dos -> ME can be done, but ME-> Grub4Dos can't. Making Grub4Dos load first is out of the scope of PLIC.

Many thanks noryb009 for your detailed explanation.

A relative wanted to experiment with Linux on an old Windows ME computer. Dual booting seemed to me to be an attractive approach. However in the mean time he was so frustrated that he uninstalled Windows ME!

I have successfully used the Windows installer on Windows 7 and Windows XP computers. Now might have a go on an old Windows 98 laptop.

This has probably been answered on here before but cannot find anything specific.

Been using Puppy for a couple of years, 5.2.8 on an old (2002) Dell laptop and Phat Slacko on a more recent Dell laptop. The more recent one is not the issue, it works fine with Phat Slacko on an external HD but the old one gets rather frustrating. It will not boot from a USB, have tried PLoP Boot Manager floppy but since its USB 1 it then takes ages to install to memory, Windows XP is faster.

So for 2 years I have been using a CD to boot the laptop each time which although adequate I thought there must be a better way.

Found the Windows Installer (EXE) on the Puppy site the other day and it directed me to this thread, very interested.

So after all the above nonsense is it really as simple as it reads and does it work OK with Windows XP, the example shown is Windows 7. In Windows XP does the Widows Boot Manager install automatically when I start the Puppy Windows Installer, would be Lucid 5.2.8 (nothing newer works) and does the GRUB boot manager then install automatically.

It all looks terribly simple, am I missing something or do you get a dual boot laptop as easy as it appears. Not a programmer so want to avoid any manual changes to the laptop to get it up and running.

XP will be no problem and the win32 installer was originally written with it in mind.

Its that simple and its a shame its not officially supported by puppy for whatever reason which would avoid users drifting off to use unsupported things like unetbooting, but fortunately for us, people like norby009 carry on regardless

mike

Thanks for that.

Presume after its installed (are there any awkward questions) you have to reboot the laptop and then go the through the setting up process like running a live CD.

Just for my sanity is the setting up as simple as the first time you run a Live CD and do you still have to create a save file on first exit.

Thanks.

Yes basically though if you have an existing save file it should be useable by copying to where the pup is installed so avoiding starting from scratch again.

mike

Thanks again for your reply, not got round to doing anything yet, been erecting a new fence.

Had one thought, when I read up about Puppy initially one of the advantages often quoted was the fact that unless you mounted your hard drives for a good reason there was no way for a virus etc to infect the hard drive on your computer. The advice I read was to put the Puppy save file in a separate partition, I had a 3gb D drive and put the Puppy save file in there.

Having read a good deal of this thread it appears that when you install Puppy for within Windows it installs in C drive thus that drive must be mounted and more susceptible to getting a virus.

Or am I missing something.

Not really something to worry about... a bit of over zealous salesmanship.

All the resident drives are mounted by default in my case... c:, d: etc etc.

Nothing is going to come through puppy and nothing coming through windows would affect it apart from of course something that wiped the hard drive which I think in such a case there would be more to worry about.

Note that puppy would be in self contained files that to a normal windows install would be meaningless anyway.

If there were cases of actual problems reported then it would be a different matter... I prefer facts to speculation.

mike

mikeb wrote:If there were cases of actual problems reported then it would be a different matter... I prefer facts to speculation.

Nothing to report - this laptop has used Win-installed Puppies for over a year. I usually install new puppy while in Windows using one of two NTFS partitions, edit C:\menu.lst to add the new entry, and reboot.

And Puppy has saved Windows once when it suddenly locked me out (must be a zombie!). I rebooted with Puppy and deleted the last session files in Windows.

OK.

Had a look today. The HD on the old laptop I am intending to use is only 20gb and has 2 partitions C and D. Widows is installed in C but there is more free space in D. Having read through the information please tell me if I am correct in my understanding that Puppy must be installed where Windows is i.e. in my case C or could I install it in D where there is more space.

Thanks yet again.

Actually I am not 100% if you are given a partition choice with this installer....my main involvement was adding windows 7 and vista to the systems covered but others have used it happily.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 9&start=60
has info on ntfs but if space is an issue and only c: is offered then you could install to c: and then once its running either move the files to d: and edit menu.lst manually...or use the installer in puppy plus grub4dos to do it for you. The initial install is around 150MB for recent puppies roughly.

Its normally possible to have the puppy sfs on one partition and have the much larger save file on another which is done after the first run...another option.

I believe getting something booting is your priority... once done such details are easily dealt with.

On the other hand it may indeed offer a choice.

mike

Sorted (I hope), appears to be working just as it should with none of the messing about with floppies/USB's or CD's.

To complete the details the installer does not give you an option where to install it thus its on c, end of story.

When I ran it for the first time on shut down it offered an option of which partition to save the Puppy Save file. Chose the smaller partition (e) which had more space than c, all appeared OK.

But when I restarted Puppy it did not find the Puppy Save File so on shut down I saved it to c,on restart it found it. This is a bit strange since when I ran Puppy from CD both the .sfs and 2fs were saved on the e drive and it always found them.

But since as I said above its working perfectly I am leaving it as it is, only installed Seamonkey so far but I am trying to keep this install as lean as possible.

Thanks for your help and a terrific way of using/installing Puppy. Wish I had found this thread 18 months ago (had it started then?). The old Dell 10+ year old laptop is now usable again.

From boot to usable with XP 20 minutes approx.

From boot to usable with Puppy 1 minute approx.

Oh thanks for the feedback.... not sure of the status of this very useful program but if updates did happen a choice of partitions might be a welcome feature.
Its certainly a simple option for such as netbooks and machine with failing optical drives.
Not sure what was happening with your save there but that might be a puppyism rather than the installer.

My XP boots in a minute on pentium 3s...sounds like you need some serious fixing doing there...stuck updates perhaps?

mike