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Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 20:51
by tlchost
[quote="01micko"]tlchost

Just tried vlc-2.0.5 from PPM, grabbed the deps and working fine :?
{/quote]
Form CLI I see
VLC media player 2.0.5 Twoflower (revision 2.0.5-0-g1661b7d)
[0x80d55e0] main interface error: no suitable interface module
[0x804f3f0] main libvlc error: interface "globalhotkeys,none" initialization failed

Pup radio fails to bring it up

Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 20:59
by 01micko
Ok tlchost, looks like qt isn't there or isn't initialised. Sometimes it requires a reboot.. is the qt-opensource package definitely there? You can check by opening PPM, click the uninstall button.

Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 21:11
by tlchost
01micko wrote:Ok tlchost, looks like qt isn't there or isn't initialised. Sometimes it requires a reboot.. is the qt-opensource package definitely there? You can check by opening PPM, click the uninstall button.
Very odd....the menu entry doesn't make it run, the vlc.desktop doesn;t make it run, yet if I go into terminal, type vlc, it comes up with the error I posted....and yes, it does play internet stream/

qt-opensource package there

Will try reboot

Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 21:23
by tlchost
01micko wrote:Ok tlchost, looks like qt isn't there or isn't initialised. Sometimes it requires a reboot.. is the qt-opensource package definitely there? You can check by opening PPM, click the uninstall button.
Thanks...reboot fixed it.

BTW, the get_libreoffice works fine on usb, and now the boot manager selects sfs files ok.

Thanks....

Thom

Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 21:56
by SFR
KDE-Games works for me this time, despite I have the same error msgs as Billtoo's.
__________

About splash-screen issue: the broken characters are different in each distro - I figured out it may depend on...splash image!
To ensure I took logo.16 from Precise and injected it into Slacko's iso...and indeed (screenshot).
Anyway, it's the funniest bug so far. :lol:
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01micko wrote:So far no response from him on the "BUG", surely he knows about it, I have peppered his blog with references. Well, I guess the important thing is that we have it covered 8) .
Exactly - and if the BUG will pop up again somewhere, sometime - we have the cure. :twisted: :wink:

Greetings!

Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 22:04
by 01micko
SFR wrote:KDE-Games works for me this time, despite I have the same error msgs as Billtoo's.
Yes, KDE is an odd one. It may be an issue of carefully checking deps as some are listed twice from salix and slacky, however curious it worked fine in 5.4.0.4.. PPM can have some odd behaviour.
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SFR wrote:About splash-screen issue: the broken characters are different in each distro - I figured out it may depend on...splash image!
To ensure I took logo.16 from Precise and injected it into Slacko's iso...and indeed (screenshot).
Anyway, it's the funniest bug so far. :lol:
Did you replace isolinux with lupu version at all for that test? I think that's what I'll do as it is really a showstopper for Noobs.. and remember, Slacko is for new and experienced users :) .

Posted: Fri 01 Mar 2013, 22:15
by SFR
Nope, I left the original one.
But just tested and isolinux.bin from Lupu also works ok with that image from Precise.

EDIT:
The one from Lupu is simply later version.

hexdump -C isolinux.bin (Slacko):

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000004b0  0a 49 53 4f 4c 49 4e 55  58 20 33 2e 37 33 20 32  |.ISOLINUX 3.73 2|
000004c0  30 30 39 2d 30 31 2d 32  35 20 00 20 43 6f 70 79  |009-01-25 . Copy|
000004d0  72 69 67 68 74 20 28 43  29 20 31 39 39 34 2d 32  |right (C) 1994-2|
000004e0  30 30 38 20 48 2e 20 50  65 74 65 72 20 41 6e 76  |008 H. Peter Anv|
000004f0  69 6e 0d 0a 00 69 73 6f  6c 69 6e 75 78 3a 20 00  |in...isolinux: .|
hexdump -C isolinux.bin (Lupu)

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00000520  66 61 66 9d c3 0d 0a 49  53 4f 4c 49 4e 55 58 20  |faf....ISOLINUX |
00000530  34 2e 30 33 20 32 30 31  30 2d 31 30 2d 32 32 20  |4.03 2010-10-22 |
00000540  00 20 43 6f 70 79 72 69  67 68 74 20 28 43 29 20  |. Copyright (C) |
00000550  31 39 39 34 2d 32 30 31  30 20 48 2e 20 50 65 74  |1994-2010 H. Pet|
00000560  65 72 20 41 6e 76 69 6e  20 65 74 20 61 6c 0d 0a  |er Anvin et al..|
BTW: there's also /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin - is this file utilized while remastering, or the one from ISO..?

Greetings!

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 00:42
by Jades
Testing on Merlin, Pentium D 3.4GHz. Booted pfix=ram and created new save on NTFS HDD. Working fine after reboot. Too early to comment on stability of wireless on WN111V2 but looking promising so far. Intensive use testing somewhat hampered by Dad making a number of calls on the upstairs phone, which knocks out the broadband for some reason.

Not particularly happy with replacement of Opera with Firefox.

Newest version of Pidgin in PPM is 2.10.6. After installing it, Updates Manager offers 2.10.7. After installing that, the Uninstall window in PPM lists both 2.10.6 and 2.10.7 - what runs from the Menu is the latter.

There is an entry for Slypheed in both the Network and Internet section of the Menu. Gnumeric is in both Business and Personal. Geany is in Utility but not Document.

Latest version of Gparted is 0.14.1 (http://gparted.org).

You may wish to rethink the colours for the OS version popup launched by clicking the storage icon on the bottom right. See attached grab.

More testing later.

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 00:49
by Jades
SFS Load appears to have stopped stiffing my machine when unloading SFS files.

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 00:55
by 01micko
Hello Jades,

Thanks for reports

I have already addressed the colours issue with the splash, it's an intermittent bug in ziggy's gtkdialog-splash script. How's black text on white? :)

Barry's new "categories.dat" has made a mess of the menus and forced me to revert jwm_menu_create, which I didn't like. I have been sorting it out.

Sorry about Opera, but it's too buggy. I would have liked to keep it but the extra weigt of Firefox V the bugs in Opera made Firefox the winner. Plus Opera is in a transitional phase and won't likely be doing any bugfixes for some time.

As for wireless, there has been a discovery that turning power management off, improves stability, I think pemasu discovered it, try a search for his posts if you have issues.

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 03:18
by gcmartin
Hi 01Micko. I PM'd a link for the latest in Hardinfo.

Here to help

Slacko 5.4.1 RC

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 04:06
by Billtoo
I booted the live dvd and did a frugal install to the hard drive with
the universal installer.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Fri 1 Mar 2013onSlackoPuppy 5.4.0.5 Linux 3.4.17-PAE i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidiaCorporationG84[GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.32
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @1603 1: @1603 2: @1603 3: @1603 MHz

The first thing that I did after installing the proprietary nvidia
driver was to open ppm and install kdegames which worked fine.
Earlier today in my other 5405 install I had opened ppm and updated
it,do you think updating ppm may have caused the problems with installing
kdegames on that install?

That's it so far, more to install but it's working well so far.

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 09:23
by OscarTalks
Is it on purpose that Gnumeric appears in both the Personal and Business categories of the menu?

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 10:30
by 01micko
OscarTalks wrote:Is it on purpose that Gnumeric appears in both the Personal and Business categories of the menu?
It never used to happen, it's the new menu system.

In other news, try the new hardinfo, and Billtoo, this one should open the report.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 86-s14.pet

patch for url (very crude)

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diff -ru hardinfo-i18n/shell/report.c hardinfo-i18n.new/shell/report.c
--- hardinfo-i18n/shell/report.c	2013-01-22 00:20:13.000000000 +1000
+++ hardinfo-i18n.new/shell/report.c	2013-03-02 20:18:19.357390357 +1000
@@ -639,7 +639,8 @@
 	    gchar *temp;
 	    
 	    temp = g_strdup_printf("file://%s", file);
-	    open_url(temp);
+	    //open_url(temp);
+	    system("FILE=`find $HOME -name 'hardinfo_report.html'`;defaultbrowser file://$FILE");
 	    
 	    g_free(temp);
         }

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:19
by 01micko
Jades wrote:There is an entry for Slypheed in both the Network and Internet section
Fixed
Jades wrote:Gnumeric is in both Business and Personal.
Retained in business.
Jades wrote:Geany is in Utility but not Document.
I'll keep it there
Jades wrote:Newest version of Pidgin in PPM is 2.10.6.
Check the patches repo :wink:


EDIT: However, the way you did it is better. Here's why.
Slackware does not support dependency resolution. When one installs Slackware TM, they are encouraged to install all packages on the DVD, about 2 GB compressed. That's it. That is the entirity (new word) of Slackware. There are NO other officially supported packages. No extra repos. KISS. This is pretty much how windows operates when you think about it. Except that on a clean windows install that costs over $100 you get a crap browser and a crap file manager and thats about it. With Slackware you get the works, web server, mail server, networking, media players, several DE/Wms, all sorts of compilers and all the latest at release time. All for free and all FOSS. Ok, nuff said.

Then comes Salix, which have developed an automated dependency tracker, so that's why our databases for PPM come from there. Armed with that info, Salix (and Slacky) manage to produce stable third party packages fully compatible with Slackware.

So.. you get pidgin from the Slackware repo, but, deps are resolved because of the work of Gapan and the Salix crew. Then patches are produced by Pat Volkerding (sw boss) as issues arise, critical bugs, security type issues.are only addressed for the "stable" version of Slackware. Feature updates are usually not updated for stable.

If you directly get pidgin (or any other package) from the "patches" repo, dependencies are not resolved. So, by getting the original, you get all the deps, then later a patched version may come up. Enter my "Updates Manager". It's designed to only show packages that have either been included in the original iso, or downloaded through PPM after installation. (With the exception of Seamonkey and Firefox, both are included as a distro builder may decide to include one, the other or neither).

Never mind that both show in the "uninstall" gui. The only time that may matter is with Firefox or SeaMonkey, and a message pops up to let you know.

Complicated? Yes! But, bear in mind, puppy is a tiny distro, supporting up to 8 major distros with woof, all with varying package management. We do what we can.

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:24
by sc0ttman
Here's a nice touch if ur using the latest gtkdialog (i assume so, if ur using latest pmusic): http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 921#688921

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:26
by 01micko
Thanks sc0ttman!

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:28
by sc0ttman
01micko wrote:Thanks sc0ttman!
Pleasure.. It's my only contribution to a mainstream puppy in about 3 years :)

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:46
by tlchost
01micko wrote:Check the patches repo :wink:
I'm sure it's age-related as I do things like forget where I parked my truck....but how to I find the patches repo?

I hope I remember I asked this question so I'll understand the answer.

Thom

Failure to access a LAN resource using 541RC

Posted: Sat 02 Mar 2013, 11:49
by gcmartin
On a Pristine boot immediately after FirstRUN and Frisbee setup, I tried to mount my NAS and got an error.

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# /mnt/NAS2
# mount -o username=root,password=woofwoof //192.168.1.207/NASunit /mnt/NAS2
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on  //192.168.1.207/NASunit
       missing codepage or helper program, or other error
       (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might
       need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)
       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
       dmesg | tail  or so
Anyone noticed the same.

Hadn't notice this problem in earlier release.
Edit: I used YASSM ..Search and was about to attach the NAS.