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Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 04:56
by Ted Dog
many links are broken for install scripts have those been removed? what is the magical directory names for frugal to work?
Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 05:22
by kj4bnh
BarryK wrote:kj4bnh wrote:BarryK wrote:
What Xorg driver are you using?
(if you run 'report-video' in a terminal, it should tell you? As will 'quicksetup')
Intel.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.2
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1366x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present synaptics
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1366x768 pixels (361x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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The intel xorg driver is badly broken on my laptop, tearing effects, among many others.
I always change to the 'modesetting' driver. Just exit from X, run 'xorgwizard'.
There is a new intel driver just released, changelog shows heaps of bug-fixes. I will be testing that soon.
Thanks Barry, have made the changes, I will see how it goes. Jim
Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 05:57
by James C
I finally got around to doing a frugal install of April64 7.0.2 using the live cd. The installer script worked perfectly....I installed to sdb 3.....probably the easiest Puppy install I've experienced.No problems so far.
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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April64, version 7.0.2
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0a65 (rev a2)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 4054008 1289920 2764088 1592 11112
-/+ buffers: 1278808 2775200
Swap: 14540792 0 14540792
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-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 4054MB (636MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 21 Mar 2015 12:54:59 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 09:03
by BarryK
Guys, a question.
There was an earlier report of Pmusic hanging.
My question is, why do we even have Pmusic in April?
I am far from being a audio-player expert, but Xine seems to be a nice audio player. It supports play-lists, and has that pleasant visual affects to look at while listening to music.
Xine seems like an adequate music player to me. Is there anything else essential that Pmusic, Aqualung, or any other, has that Xine hasn't?
If the feedback is no, then I reckon I will remove Pmusic and make Xine the default audio player.
Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 17:53
by Ted Dog
good point BK. I thought with everything included in GC would install google-chrome and map all the default player type to it. however did it with Fatdog64 and the bit by spot issue blocked it from being able to load the hard drive files outside of spot user directory.
May try it with April, Spot may not bite so hard over here.
if you get some free time hop over to SLitaz and see how much they replaced apps of all kinds with a browser and back-end scripts. I do not know why they do not hide the browser title bar, without it you could replace almost exactly the look and feel of all our dialog based scripts.
Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 19:39
by linuxcbon
BarryK wrote:My question is, why do we even have Pmusic in April?
Please remove pmusic, I only use xine, even for mp3s. And while you are at it, remove all programs in /usr/local/ except the mandatory ones. Let the option for them to be installed from ppm.
Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 20:16
by don570
I burnt 7.0.2 ISO to a CD and booted my IBM desktop (with 1.5 GB) + intel graphics.
It booted nicely. --> 981 M personal storage and 384 M free
The devx couldn't be installed.
I ran the script for a frugal install. It booted nicely and I had 500M of free ram showing.
Everything running well so far. Well done!!
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Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 20:20
by don570
Note to barry:
My script create-3mu works with xine (and pmusic)
Which is better? I don't know. They seem to both work well.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79825
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Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2015, 23:34
by Keef
Running live from CD on a HP Compaq nc6120 with 1.25 gig RAM and it is running very nicely. Booting was very slow, but very nippy now. According to htop (on my HDD) it is using 523mb of RAM with SeaMonkey running.
Going to try the frugal install now.
Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2015, 01:07
by BarryK
Keef wrote:Running live from CD on a HP Compaq nc6120 with 1.25 gig RAM and it is running very nicely. Booting was very slow, but very nippy now. According to htop (on my HDD) it is using 523mb of RAM with SeaMonkey running.
Going to try the frugal install now.
Very good. I would like to find out how low the RAM can be for the live-CD.
There are so many PCs out there with 1MB RAM. It would be nice if the live-CD boots on those.
Even if the amount of RAM is impractical for daily usage, cannot download/install anything, it is still a means for evaluation of Quirky, and can become a means of installing to drive or partition.
Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2015, 05:45
by James C
James C wrote:I finally got around to doing a frugal install of April64 7.0.2 using the live cd. The installer script worked perfectly....I installed to sdb 3.....probably the easiest Puppy install I've experienced.No problems so far.
A little customizing, just need to remember to save....
Actually,the saves are really fast.
bugs in netstat, hardinfo, xmessage
Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2015, 06:53
by zygo
Barry,
I have used several Puppies including the latest precise from yourself and the latest slacko. Now I'm running april 7.0.2 live-CD (with 2GB RAM) and these errors are new.
A.
netstat -c -p -a -e -w -u -t -n
netstat: invalid option -- c
netstat -p -a -e -w -u -t -n
netstat: /proc/net/tcp6: No such file or directory
netstat: /proc/net/udp6: No such file or directory
netstat: /proc/net/raw6: No such file or directory
there is IPv4 output (which I have removed) and as I expected no IPv6 output.
B.
hardinfo has no USB info and there's no error in the console that launched it.
C.
xmessage -buttons "will do" -file msg.txt
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
The message box does appear though.
Thanks
Posted: Sun 22 Mar 2015, 10:09
by Sage
I would like to find out how low the RAM can be for the live-CD.
There are so many PCs out there with 1MB RAM. It would be nice if the live-CD boots on those.
Yes, it will boot (slowly) into 1Gb and is reasonably speedy thereafter; swap partition available on HD, independent video card(ie no shared mem.: 128MbDDR Radeon).
With 768Mb, "no space left on device", KP, non-blocking pool initialized(?), STOP.
896? Loads of error messages but arrives at CLI. Cannot run xorgwizard without 'no space' & 'Seg fault' messages. Very close - maybe a small SW tweek?
Folks with 1Gb
and shared mem. could slot in a 128 strip - plenty of that knocking about at low or zero cost. Even the most basic boards have two slots, so depends on whether the 1Gb is a single strip!
Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2015, 00:00
by BarryK
James C wrote:James C wrote:I finally got around to doing a frugal install of April64 7.0.2 using the live cd. The installer script worked perfectly....I installed to sdb 3.....probably the easiest Puppy install I've experienced.No problems so far.
A little customizing, just need to remember to save....
Actually, you could put the 'savesession' script into /usr/bin/wmpoweroff and wmreboot, so it will save at every shutdown.
Or rather, it will ask, and you can decline if not want to save.
Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2015, 00:25
by Blackfish
Where can I find a LibreOffice that works with Quirky?
Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2015, 02:00
by Ted Dog
Hemmm.. savesession on shutdown what if we could ALSO save that single file back to DVD? DID you know that same name files can be saved to END of already burned DVD-R.. and it would be picked as the newer..
If you mount the DVD with a session number you could go get an earlier session.
Just tossing this out there....
Posted: Mon 23 Mar 2015, 02:08
by Ted Dog
Actually you could also do a delta file between old and new savesession and save just the changes... But thats a bit more coding..
Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2015, 03:10
by Flash
BarryK wrote:Guys, a question.
There was an earlier report of Pmusic hanging.
My question is, why do we even have Pmusic in April?
Barry, Pmusic is more than just a media player. I use it to batch-edit the tags of audiobook mp3 files so I can see the author and title of the book I'm listening to (sometimes people ask what I'm listening to and I forget.) I haven't found another way to do that, though I didn't seriously look for one after I figured out how easy it is to do with Pmusic. Please, at least keep the latest version of Pmusic in Puppy's Package Manager.
Re: bugs in netstat, hardinfo, xmessage
Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2015, 03:48
by gcav
zygo wrote:Barry,
I have used several Puppies including the latest precise from yourself and the latest slacko. Now I'm running april 7.0.2 live-CD (with 2GB RAM) and these errors are new.
A.
netstat -c -p -a -e -w -u -t -n
netstat: invalid option -- c
netstat -p -a -e -w -u -t -n
netstat: /proc/net/tcp6: No such file or directory
netstat: /proc/net/udp6: No such file or directory
netstat: /proc/net/raw6: No such file or directory
there is IPv4 output (which I have removed) and as I expected no IPv6 output.
Thanks
I am also seeing the errors.
Does anyone know if netstat changed? or the kernel changed?
Re: bugs in netstat, hardinfo, xmessage
Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2015, 05:14
by scsijon
gcav wrote:zygo wrote:Barry,
I have used several Puppies including the latest precise from yourself and the latest slacko. Now I'm running april 7.0.2 live-CD (with 2GB RAM) and these errors are new.
A.
netstat -c -p -a -e -w -u -t -n
netstat: invalid option -- c
netstat -p -a -e -w -u -t -n
netstat: /proc/net/tcp6: No such file or directory
netstat: /proc/net/udp6: No such file or directory
netstat: /proc/net/raw6: No such file or directory
there is IPv4 output (which I have removed) and as I expected no IPv6 output.
Thanks
I am also seeing the errors.
Does anyone know if netstat changed? or the kernel changed?
Not sure what netstat -c is for, it's not in any of my netstat lists as a switch, typo maybe?
The others are all for ip6, ?are you sure you have ip6 enabled, I think maybe not, it needs to be enabled at both ends.
Try
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netstat -a -s -p tcp tcpv6 ipv6 -f
, this should list your tcp stats and connections
if they exist for both ip4 and ip6 including ports.