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Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 08:43
by cthisbear
Acer Netbook >>eMachines eM350-21G16i

All working >>> wifi etc

Chris.

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 10:30
by BarryK
technosaurus wrote:Everyone needs to realize that Ubuntu packages are built for 686 cpus with the CMOV instruction. This means that Precise will fail on all 486 and 586, the via c3, pentium, pentium mmx, amd geode and the vortex86 series of cpus and several others (see /proc/info to find out if you have the cmov flag)

This is a likely cause of the non-reproducible bug reports. @Barry, didn't you have a gecko edubook? That would be a good test box for this.

Edit: at 1 point choosing PAE in the kernel config also enabled some cmov instructions that prevented booting on these cpus, though IDK if it is still the case.
Actually, I had two of those Geckos. I gave one to a NGO charity organisation in India. The other just stopped working one day, completely dead.

Interesting, same thing happened to the Intel Classmate mini laptops. I had two of those also, also gave one to the India charity, and the other also went dead one one day.

The only thing I have left that is pre-Pentium is my old PC with Cyrix 6x86 CPU. But that is currently in a friend's backyard shed.

I had to make some pretty tough decisions when I sold my house at Perenjori, got rid of so much stuff. But, at least I did keep some old hardware, in storage until one day when I settle somewhere permanent. ...which probably will happen mid-2013.

Re: regular expression evaluation and learning tool

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 10:57
by BarryK
L18L wrote:
file:///usr/share/doc/HOWTO-regexps.htm wrote:[Note: Puppy has a regular expression evaluation and learning tool in the Utilities menu]
Once upon a time (version 1.04) I have used it much.
But now it seems to have disappeared :cry:
Yes, that was a long time ago. If I recall rightly, there were two of them, one was written in tcl/tk, the other gtk1.2.

Which was why we had to leave them behind.

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 10:58
by BarryK
I think that John Murga has made changes to the Forum recently. It keeps on logging me out. Anyone else got this problem?

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:46
by Jasper
Hi BarryK,
I think that John Murga has made changes to the Forum recently. It keeps on logging me out. Anyone else got this problem?
Yes, I've been "auto" logged out sometimes recently. I thought it was my mistakes; but I couldn't think what I'd done.

My regards
and thanks

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:40
by BarryK
rcrsn51 wrote:In 5.4.0.90, the problem with ePDFview not rendering colours correctly is still present.

While I appreciate the inclusion of YASSM and Network, I expect that many users will miss Pnethood if it has been working for them.
Regarding epdfview, see my blog post:
http://www.bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00017

Regarding Pnethood, yes, good point. I have reinstated it.

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:41
by bigpup
BarryK wrote:I think that John Murga has made changes to the Forum recently. It keeps on logging me out. Anyone else got this problem?
From the forum FAQ
Why do I get logged off automatically?
If you do not check the Log me in automatically box when you log in, the board will only keep you logged in for a preset time. This prevents misuse of your account by anyone else. To stay logged in, check the box during login. This is not recommended if you access the board from a shared computer, e.g. library, internet cafe, university cluster, etc.

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 13:00
by bigpup
Firewall Status does not show in tray (taskbar).

I find this program useful to me.
I assume you did not include it in Precise for a reason.

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 13:27
by Sylvander
BarryK wrote:Forum...keeps on logging me out.
Make sure your PC's clock/time [including the year] is reading the correct value.
If it's wrong, the [time limited] cookie will time out and log you off.

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 13:28
by rcrsn51
BarryK wrote:Regarding epdfview, see my blog post:
The z_epdfview_fix_precise-20121106.pet works correctly for me, both to screen and printer.
Regarding Pnethood, yes, good point. I have reinstated it.
Remember that Pnethood required the older version of nbtscan to work correctly, as discussed here.

z_epdfview_fix_precise-20121106.pet works correctly

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 14:39
by FeodorF
Precise Puppy 5.4.0.90 works fine on my Pentium II 266 with 768MB.
Using the frugal mode on a 2GB hard disk.
The 'z_epdfview_fix_precise-20121106.pet' works fine too.

Regards Feodor

Rem. For the ones interested, I have added 'hardinfo _report'. Posting with this 'oldish' system right now.

Tray missing

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 16:54
by sredmon
I am using retroprecise installed on usb and it has been working well until today. Tray is missing except for section with "menu" and "show desktop" icons. System icons in lower right are missing and minimized apps disappear. Tray does not extend across bottom of screen - only displays in lower left corner. Also, yesterday I tried adding panel button with jwm panel button configuring tool, but they never appeared in the tray.

Any suggestions?

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 17:37
by akash_rawal
akash_rawal wrote: Also gio has problems using modules. It's a glib bug and affects some other distros as well.
I have recompiled glib from original sources and that fixes the module loading problem.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 18:39
by akash_rawal
Testing precise 5.4.0.90.

Looks like the session saving problem is solved, I'm unable to reproduce it now.

Problems with gdb and gio modules persist.

I'll continue testing and report back more. :)

Re: mpscan update needed

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 23:38
by BarryK
peebee wrote:The new Network rox app needs the updated mpscan from:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81808

to work satifactorily in some configurations
Done:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00018

Posted: Wed 07 Nov 2012, 23:43
by 01micko
akash_rawal wrote:
akash_rawal wrote: Also gio has problems using modules. It's a glib bug and affects some other distros as well.
I have recompiled glib from original sources and that fixes the module loading problem.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet
Did you include jemimah's patches for media/mnt and the help browser? If so, then it would solve bigpup's issue with the help in all gtk apps.

Posted: Thu 08 Nov 2012, 00:07
by BarryK
bigpup wrote:
BarryK wrote:I think that John Murga has made changes to the Forum recently. It keeps on logging me out. Anyone else got this problem?
From the forum FAQ
Why do I get logged off automatically?
If you do not check the Log me in automatically box when you log in, the board will only keep you logged in for a preset time. This prevents misuse of your account by anyone else. To stay logged in, check the box during login. This is not recommended if you access the board from a shared computer, e.g. library, internet cafe, university cluster, etc.
What I am reporting is a change in behaviour of the forum.

Sometimes it logs me out only a few minutes after logging in. Even if I am active on the forum.

The previous behaviour was that it would log me out after a certain period of inactivity. I don't recall how long, maybe half an hour. It was a generous period of inactivity.

I used to have this problem with my Telstra mobile broadband connection. I did report the problem to John, but it never got fixed. After I changed to Optus, the problem went away.
Until now, suddenly I have that problem with Optus also.

Posted: Thu 08 Nov 2012, 00:14
by BarryK
akash_rawal wrote:Testing precise 5.4.0.90.

Looks like the session saving problem is solved, I'm unable to reproduce it now.

Problems with gdb and gio modules persist.

I'll continue testing and report back more. :)
Do you mean even after installing your PET:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/protec ... 0-i686.pet

Precise still has module loading problems?

Posted: Thu 08 Nov 2012, 00:14
by BarryK
akash_rawal wrote:Finished downloading precise 5.4. Testing it reveals several problems.

On first boot it refused to save the session. After asking for save file name it rebooted without saving session. Next time I ran wmreboot in terminal but this time it worked properly. :? Will try again to reproduce the problem.

Display, opengl and internet is working properly. Posting from there now.

In devx gdb doesn't work.

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# gdb
gdb: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.7.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#
Installing libpython2.7_2.7.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb fixes gdb.

Also gio has problems using modules. It's a glib bug and affects some other distros as well. See here.

Edit: Didn't see precise 5.4.0.90.
Thanks, libpython2.7 will be in the devx.

Infrastructure mods to facilitate addition of Frisbee

Posted: Thu 08 Nov 2012, 04:46
by rerwin
Barry,
Testing of my integrated Frisbee is progressing well. Although I am not ready to submit it for additon to the puppy package library, the infrastructure changes are straightforward and would simplify users' and developers' addition of Frisbee.

Please consider updating woof with the first four packages posted here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#662518

The fifth (dhcpcd-dropwait) can also be added to the puppy package library, although substituting it in woof for dhcpcd could benefit connection stability for all network managers.

My main concern, though, is that the woof-resident changes be made, including the addition of a slot for a separate wag_profiles package. Please see the description associated with those packages at the above link. I recognize that it is late in the cycle, but ask for it because it would avoid users needing to modify to puppy infrastructure.
Richard