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Posted: **Tue 20 Nov 2007, 09:31**

The maximised window size is controlled by the window manager, jwm. But I think the only way currently to restrict the maximised window size is to create a tray (taskbar), which would probably sit on top of wbar and would look ugly whichever way it turned out.

I agree that a tray at the top (or bottom) and wbar at the other would look good but I think it will require a hack of jwm to achieve it.

Posted: **Tue 20 Nov 2007, 16:34**

Ok Vettephil I rise to the challenge as long as you are willing to give up a single pixel of you desktop to a dummy jwm tray.

Assuming you have the default sized wbar at the bottom of a 1024x768 screen the following tray entry in /root/.jwmrc-tray gets what you asked for.

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<Tray  x="500" y="723" width="1" height="1"></Tray>

a tiny near invisible tray that jwm will respect when maximising windows.
The slight kicker which you didn't specify is when the icons grow they do it behind the windows, you can move them in front of the widows by cracking up the layer that wbar is on but then it controls some of the space at the bottom of a maximised window which looks really ugly. This is because wbar's transparency is fake, it just copies the background when it starts.

For more fun with jwm trays read
http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/config.shtml

Posted: **Tue 20 Nov 2007, 20:18**

HairyWill: Nicely done! That has however produced another issue to overcome.

When minimizing an app's window to the "fake tray" there is no way to get it back again. See if you can reproduce.

My thought around this is to run 2 trays if possible. A normal one at the top and the fake one at the bottom as a place holder for Wbar. I'm going to test this next. Thanks!

Posted: **Tue 20 Nov 2007, 20:25**

A second tray worked! Here is my full code from /.jwmrc-tray:

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<JWM>
	<Tray  autohide="false" insert="right" x="0" y="0" border="0" height="26" >

		<!-- Additional TaskList attribute: maxwidth -->
		<TaskList maxwidth="160"/>

		<Dock/>

		<!-- Additional Swallow attribute: height -->
		<Swallow name="blinky">
			blinkydelayed -bg gray90
		</Swallow>

		<Swallow name="mini-volume.tcl">
			mini-volume.tcl -bg gray90 -mixer pvolume-mixer.tcl
		</Swallow>
		
		<Swallow name="freememapplet" width="48">
			<!-- freememappletdelayed -->
			freememapplet
		</Swallow>

		<Swallow name="xload" width="32">
			xload -nolabel -bg "#BCBAB5" -fg red -hl white
		</Swallow>

		<Swallow name="wbar">
   			killall wbar ; wbar -above-desk &
		</Swallow> 
		
		<Clock>minixcal</Clock>
	</Tray>

	<Tray  autohide="false" insert="right" x="500" y="723" border="0" height="1" width="1" > </Tray>

</JWM>

Nice cooperative effort, all!
-PHIL

Posted: **Tue 20 Nov 2007, 20:41**

I had just assumed you would have a proper tray running as well.

The real tray wouldn't be so important if jwm supported unminimising using the keyboard alone but at the moment ALT-TAB only toggles programs that are not minimised. This is IMHO a significant weakness.

Posted: **Wed 21 Nov 2007, 11:47**

Vettephil wrote:HairyWill: Nicely done! That has however produced another issue to overcome. When minimizing an app's window to the "fake tray" there is no way to get it back again. See if you can reproduce.

My thought around this is to run 2 trays if possible. A normal one at the top and the fake one at the bottom as a place holder for Wbar. I'm going to test this next. Thanks!

You can also enable the option in Rox that minimizes windows as thumbnails on the desktop.

Posted: **Wed 21 Nov 2007, 15:26**

Dougal wrote: You can also enable the option in Rox that minimizes windows as thumbnails on the desktop.

Ooooh, that sounds neat! Which file/what code if you don't mind?

-PHIL

Posted: **Wed 21 Nov 2007, 18:10**

Vettephil -
Right click in a Rox window and choose "options". Under the "Pinboard" menu, choose "Iconified windows".

Posted: **Thu 06 Dec 2007, 20:45**

very nice and interesting app
is there a wat to put it into xinitrc file?
i think that itś possible to remove icons and font from the package because
you can define path to any icon or font(to support russian i defined dejavu instead the font that was inside the pack)
i use different rox panels with different walpapers
but wbar sticks to the first wallpaper
is it possible to turn off transparency?

also does anyone know where rox takes the pictures for placing minimized apps on the desktop?
some of them are just empty windows instead of icon

Posted: **Mon 25 Feb 2008, 06:07**

is there a way to get this to run on 2.16 multisession cd
I have tried every way I can think of and it still doesn't work
how do you make it run after untaring?

thanks yim

Posted: **Mon 10 Mar 2008, 10:01**

Hi there,

Has anybody found a solution to HarryWill's .jwmrc option to stop wbar appearing in the tray?

I've tried all kinds of formats and positions of:

<Group>
<Name>wbar*</Name>
<Class>wbar*</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option
</Group>

in the .jwmrc file and the wbar entry still appears in my tray.
Has anybody managed to stop this appearing?

I have a feeling it's not working becuase the app is being started from the .jwmrc file itself.

Thanks,

n4l

Posted: **Mon 10 Mar 2008, 17:01**

Where do you have the wbar stuff? Is it in .xinitrc, or .jwmrc-tray or .jwmrc?

Anyway, just have it in only one place and try using

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wbar -pos top &

instead of

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wbar -above-desk -pos top &

It worked for me when I removed the -above-desk.

Posted: **Tue 11 Mar 2008, 11:17**

I've got the script in .jwmrc-tray and it has -above-desk in the call.

I was under the impression that the -above-desk is essential to keeping the wbar start ontop of the ROX pinboard.

so where is your call? Is it also in .jwmrc-tray?

do you every lose the focus of wbar with -above-desk left out?

do you have the nolist option in your .jwmrc as well?

thanks for your help,

n4l

Posted: **Tue 11 Mar 2008, 17:07**

My script is just before the minixcal in the .jwmrc-tray. I didnt have to do anything else.

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      <Swallow name="wbar">
            killall wbar ; wbar -pos top &
      </Swallow>

The wbar does not lose focus at any time. You can see other wbar options by doing wbar -help from the console.

Yesterday I was playing around with different options and now my wbar looks even better - no border, bigger icons, larger icon spacing, closer to the window border. And using the dummy tray mentioned earlier in this thread, we can prevent other windows from overlapping the wbar.

Posted: **Thu 13 Mar 2008, 15:11**

I thought I will explain the different options I tried with wbar and how I could get the setup as in the screenshot shown below.

This is my current wbar setup: This does just before minixcal in the .jwmrc-tray

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<Swallow name="wbar"> 
killall wbar; sleep 4; wbar -jumpf 0 -pos top -nanim 3 -zoomf 1.8 -idist 10 -isize 38 -bpress -balfa 0  &
</Swallow>

jumpf 0 - icons zoom in the downward direction (1 would reverse this)
nanim 3 - number of animated icons. I didnt understand this fully, but I noticed that this helps the wbar from getting elongated too much horizontally.
zoomf 1.8 - the zoom factor for the icons
idist 10 - just to increase icon spacing
isize 38 - to increase icon sizes
bpress - to show icons being clicked when you click on them
balfa 0 - this makes the border disappear.

You can get all the available options by doing wbar -help in the console.

One other interesting thing, is to add a dummy jwm tray if you are using jwm. Using this, other windows will not overlap the wbar.

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<Tray  autohide="false" insert="right" x="500" y="90" border="0" height="1" width="1" >

I got all this information from this thread, by doing wbar -help and from Rhino's MyPup.

Here is the screenshot.

Posted: **Fri 14 Mar 2008, 04:15**

@Prit1: These options are really terrific!! I never would've given it a second thought that wbar could've done all these fabulous things until I read the above post by you and then saw your fantastic screenie in the screenshot thread. Truly remarkable!

Thanks so very much for posting all of the above per my request in the other thread---I really appreciate this more than you'll ever know. I've been really thankful for having wbar as it's made my computer work a lot easier for me. Now with these settings? Far more stunning as well.

Thank you once again Prit1!

Amicalement/In Friendship,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

Posted: **Fri 14 Mar 2008, 05:18**

@Eyes-only:

Am glad this helps you. Even I really love the wbar. Thanks should go to the folks on this thread who revealed this application and provided all the required information.

The only thing I am yet to make out is how to make wbar appear automatically on startup. Right now, I have to click on the desktop for the wbar to appear.

Anyone knows how to do this?

Posted: **Fri 14 Mar 2008, 06:16**

prit1 wrote:@Eyes-only:

Am glad this helps you. Even I really love the wbar. Thanks should go to the folks on this thread who revealed this application and provided all the required information.

The only thing I am yet to make out is how to make wbar appear automatically on startup. Right now, I have to click on the desktop for the wbar to appear.

Anyone knows how to do this?

Hi Prit1,I had it working in icewm by placing these lines

<Swallow name="wbar">
wbar -pos top &
</Swallow>

in the /root/.icewm/startup about mid way and worked for me that way
ttuuxxx

Posted: **Fri 14 Mar 2008, 15:11**

Thanks Ttuuxxx. I will try this. If I remember, I was trying to use the startup script and it kept hanging my system. I will try again.

Posted: **Fri 14 Mar 2008, 21:13**

Hi Prit1,

In all of my "starticewm" files (I have 5 distros installed and use IceWM on each) in "/usr/bin" I have the following line now placed in the coding:

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sleep 1 ; wbar -above-desk -bpress -balfa 0 &

...and wbar starts up just fine. You may want to add the "-pos top" parameter in there somewhere though if you want wbar on top. I run mine on the bottom as I have a "fake gnome-look" to my IceWM in most cases.

Depending upon your processor speed as well you may want to change the "sleep" parameter to make it either 2 or 3, depending upon whether wbar gives you just an iconic menu, or comes up in a windowed background. You'll see what I mean I think.

I start wbar this way in about all of my window managers or desktop environments (I run a lot of different ones), along with a lot of other programmes that run for me in the background, like conky, numlockx, ROX pinboard/desktop (when outside of Puppy), etc.

I hope this has helped?

Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

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