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Posted: Fri 22 Aug 2008, 20:06
by technosaurus
Eyes
exactly - sorry for the confusion - i couldn't logon to the ftp server yet but as soon as I can it will be at that address - also, when it is fully updated, I will include a link to the latest downloadable .tgz (or .pet) version (using local images) in the favorites menu for those wishing to use it in their remaster.

Aitch
Thanks for the resources- I'll add them to the Q

which brings up a side note - I keep adding apps, some of which I have never personally used, so if any of them provide no real added value or it starts to get too bloated let me know that as well

ftp

Posted: Sat 23 Aug 2008, 00:52
by raffy
As I understand it, the FTP's URL should be ftp.servage.net, login technosaurus, password (see my PM).

I have no FTP service here now, but should be able to test it this evening not later than GMT12:00.

Posted: Sat 23 Aug 2008, 03:15
by technosaurus
its already posted - I didn't have ftp access till I got home either. Anyhow many thanks Raffy (PMed ya btw)

I'm currently working on search boxes from the sites everyone has suggested. I have them working - just trying to keep the look of a desktop instead of a web page.

Next step is to add sites from all of these lists of web apps while trying to stay under 10 per category - may need to split some categories or add some new ones so we don't get any more "tails" (I guess I've got it looking so much like a desktop people forget they have scroll bars)

Way back on the back burner is finding a decent looking background with a smaller file size to speed up the load times (any suggestions?)

Thanks to everyone for all of the suggestions - your input has allowed us to have the best web apps (or "rich internet applications") collection around as far as I can tell. Virtually every link on the web page came from another member of our community in some way, shape or form. I appreciate the patience everyone has had while I have done all of my tweaking and renaming etc... Thanks to Raffy, http://pupweb.org/desktop/ will be its new and hopefully permanent home and you won't have to suffer through testing some of my extremely bad ideas (only the really bad ones)

Posted: Sat 23 Aug 2008, 05:10
by Aitch
I believe I posted an alert about using straight ftp recently, but I can't find it, however mu's very secure ftp vsftpd pet may help

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=30239

else find sftp

http://www.linux.com/feature/62254

Aitch :)

Posted: Sat 23 Aug 2008, 06:06
by Lobster
technosaurus wrote:
Way back on the back burner is finding a decent looking background with a smaller file size to speed up the load times (any suggestions?)
the one in puppy:
/usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg

Posted: Sat 23 Aug 2008, 15:29
by Eyes-Only
THANKS TECHNO!! :D

And that's not meant as the "net yelling" but as a real "Congrats" for a hard job so very well done and excellently crafted!

It's now in the top bookmark bar of my SeaMonkey/Firefox for that I can reach it with one click (from all my other distros) and in Puppy proper it'll be the homepage of my browsers there. Just such a fabulous wealth of material and apps!

Incredible! For once I'm speechless. Some here will realise how impossible that is. LOL!

Amicalement/Cheers!

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

Posted: Sat 23 Aug 2008, 18:17
by technosaurus
Lobster - thanks for the reminder - I tried that one before when I was using white lettering and couldn't see the text in places - it should work now.

status update

Posted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 20:53
by technosaurus
I just finished editing the mouseover descriptions to be a bit more concise - thought it might reduce the size more than it did
I also added the klu9, wellminded and google/linux search boxes
Moved Puppy programs to the bottom to make room for the search boxes

i am currently prepping new app sections
games - Yahoo Games...
todo - webeditors - google page creator etc..

favorites sections:
todo - library - gutenberg, wikibooks, internet archive, google books

added previously requested searches+

updated icons for the web version

and using these additional sites as a reference for more web apps
http://webtools4u2use.wikispaces.com/
http://www.apple.com/webapps/
http://www.webapplist.com/
http://news.cnet.com/webware/
http://us.ajax13.com/en/products.jsp
thinkfree.com

Posted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 15:37
by Aitch

Posted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 18:00
by technosaurus
I've already found a bunch of search box codes including metacrawler, excite, ask jeeves, DMOZ... - the issue is getting them to look ok

I am trying to get all the different google searches to use one box and radio buttons and kind look like a widget using a table with a translucent background. This should make room for other searches on the top.

I like to do a bottom bar also, but the only way I know how is to use frames and that cuts off the dropdown menus. Maybe I'll stumble upon some nice code snippet soon for this.

v1.0 - Start Menu, favorites, icons searches & widgets done

Posted: Tue 26 Aug 2008, 15:38
by technosaurus
I created a single dropdown menu for the google search to choose the site you wish to search - I was trying to emulate a widget here, but I'm even more rusty on graphics than I was at html when I started making this site - so it may take me a bit to make the google "widget" look pretty. Also since this performs the same function of several of the other requested searches - they were replaced with "ask" and "webcrawler"
I also added flowcharts and games to the desktop and did some tweeking under the hood and some code fixes. Other than that I am happy with the interface for now and plan to mainly maintain and expand updated web apps from here. (Note that I have purposely left an icon space for use in puplets)

Posted: Tue 26 Aug 2008, 16:36
by HairyWill
It looks like this doesn't work in vanilla opera.
I'm using 9.51 in Muppy-084. The application menus disappear as soon as I move the mouse off the category text.
If I do it very quickly it works. I suspect there is a small gap in between the category and the menu which means that the hover is disabled moving between the two.

Posted: Tue 26 Aug 2008, 18:21
by technosaurus
Hairy
Thanks for the report.
I had this working before I thought - I will see what I can do though I think I have a copy of Pupeez somewhere so I can test with Opera. I suspect its something in the CSS section, but may just as easily be fixed with align right vs. center or left (however it is that I have it now?)

Posted: Tue 26 Aug 2008, 18:53
by Lobster

Posted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 20:31
by technosaurus
thanks again lobster - good picks

Posted: Sun 28 Sep 2008, 03:00
by technosaurus
If anyone is interested I can make a howto for customizing it for a particular puplet or different distro etc...

Posted: Sun 28 Sep 2008, 18:16
by amigo
A suggestion for a search engine: clusty.com
Try it a couple of times and you'll never reach for anything else first.

Posted: Sun 28 Sep 2008, 19:38
by Lobster
technosaurus wrote:If anyone is interested I can make a howto for customizing it for a particular puplet or different distro etc...
That would be great ;)

Think about a default web page for Puppy 4.2

That is an HTML that can be provided locally within 4.2 and beyond

You will find some possible graphics here:
http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/archives ... ep-thought

more potential links here:
http://www.smashingapps.com/2008/09/26/ ... o-use.html

These two links for spam reporting, from Aitch, could go perhaps under recommended
aprox where it says
'below here there be serpents'

For standard email or forum spam;
http://www.castlecops.com/sirt

for phishing [bank /ebay/ identity fraud];
http://www.castlecops.com/pirt

Posted: Tue 30 Sep 2008, 22:14
by technosaurus
I apologize for not adding everyones suggestions yet. Many of the suggested links that have several sites take me quite a while to determine which ones aren't already included and then do the code for them. To help speed up the process I have edited my initial post to include the following templates:

If you would like to have a web app site added please use the following template to submit it:
Category:(Any category or subcategory in the start menu)

Code: Select all

<li><a href="http://www.urlofsite.com" title="Brief description of the app">NameOfApp</a></li>
If you would like to have a link added please use the following template to submit it:
Category:Link-(Any category or subcategory in the favorites menu)

Code: Select all

<li><a href="http://www.urlofsite.com" title="Brief description of the linked site">NameOfSite</a></li>
I still welcome other recommendations but it may take me a while to sift through large collections to find new apps now that I have so many ... screen real estate begins to dictate that I choose App A over App B - becomes very time consuming when I have to go through the whole registration process and then figure out what the site does and if its even worth including. On the other hand if someone already knows an app is good - Cut, Paste, Post - done

Thanks for your help everyone

Posted: Wed 01 Oct 2008, 05:33
by Lobster