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It still needs more tweaking. The ROX dir icons,window theme,cursors and tooltip colors are next on the list.
I'll post another screenshot soon

panzerpuppy,
Please, before you consider posting another screenshot, resize the 2048x1536 'tubby' one (no pun intended!) you have already placed on the forum to a reasonable size - the accepted x600 pixels. For people using small screens and low resolutions, the overall size is enormous.
Thanks.

Fossil wrote:panzerpuppy,
Please, before you consider posting another screenshot, resize the 2048x1536 'tubby' one (no pun intended!) you have already placed on the forum to a reasonable size - the accepted x600 pixels. For people using small screens and low resolutions, the overall size is enormous.
Thanks.

That was done on purpose,just to show you how good the Tubbies look when stretched to 3.14 Megapixels

The next one will be much smaller.

How about adding some really excellent xp/vista icons to the mix, around ummmmm 200 Of them around 80MB,
http://rapidshare.com/files/166486729/Rhor.zip

ttuuxxx

Wow, that'd be nice. Also, rox's gotta go. A 2 bar filer manager would be it, that supports regular Control+c control v, and that when you look for, for example example.jpg you can type "ex" and the file will appear selected.

ttuuxxx wrote:How about adding some really excellent xp/vista icons to the mix...

...I think I'll make that my next icon project for the Icon Exchange thread...good idea, ttuuxxx. Keep an eye on that thread for this set...

steve_s wrote:

ttuuxxx wrote:How about adding some really excellent xp/vista icons to the mix...

...I think I'll make that my next icon project for the Icon Exchange thread...good idea, ttuuxxx. Keep an eye on that thread for this set...

And here it is.

Check this thread for specifics and for a screenshot.

These are some special program launchers that Ive taken from ecopup that I saw by Guestoo some time ago. They allow double or single clicking to launch, but if the user double clicks they will still only get one instance of the application. It also shows a (very poor) splash screen for the application. They also show a tooltip when hovered over.

Installing the .pet puts them in /root/my-roxapps. Go in there and right click any of the icons and select "look inside", and this will reveal the goodies within. It should be obvious what everything does.

ecopup-launchers.pet

Ive found them very handy for people who are xp-trained in our cybercafe and for our commercial customers in the area.

P.S.

I dont suppose you guys have seen the new JWM 2.0 beta? It has transparency on the toolbars for that vista in under 100mb look


fullscreen

WinPup 7:


Powered by Puppy Linux

Synth: nice!

Has anyone checked out xfe? I saw ttuuxxx's thread about it...talk about a windows like file manager...I've attached a screenshot on mine and I'm not really looking for windows-like but it sure does resemble it...it's configurable, can have one or two or three panels, has different icon themes...I've at least included it on mine...

Ok, I needed just a little more clarification/closure on this thread.

Of the almost 200 icewm themes I've seen, plus backgrounds, here are the ones that look (in my opinion) the most like the 3 basic Xp themes, blue, silver and olive.

Feel free to disagree, BUT SHOW YOUR WORK!

I am going to attach each of the pets for the icon theme (one I did earlier in this thread) and for each of the icewm themes (jwm just doesn't look as much like xp so icewm is the way to go with this project, even though I prefer jwm on my own system).

Finally I'll attach a tar.gz file (either this post or the next, depending on how the forum allows it) of all of this stuff together. You could just click on that, unpack it to a folder of your choosing then run the pet files from there (just click on 'em) and put the wallpapers in /usr/share/backgrounds (or just have the wallpaper selector pick 'em out of the folder that you created; or just add your own wallpaper).

Preferred themes/background for each:
Blue:
icewm-theme: xp-new
gtk-theme: clearlooks deepsky (included in 4.2.1)
wallpaper: bliss-royale

Silver:
icewm-theme: silver
gtk-theme: clearlooks quicksilver (included in 4.2.1)
wallpaper: uluru

Olive:
icewm-theme: WinXP-Olive
gtk-theme: clearlooks olive (included in 4.2.1)
wallpaper: parq

I've also noticed that the small menu icons in icewm don't want to change as readily for me in 4.2.1, but seem to be fine in jwm...that's the first I've noticed that. Anyone else have that issue?

Enjoy!

As promised, here is a tar.gz file of all that stuff that I talked about on the last post...

I just got done reading this thread through and have a few questions. I notice you are trying to get Jwm and Icewm to look like XP wouldn't it be much easier to start with something like NOP with Xfce4 which starts out looking XPish. with a very few tweaks Xfce will look very like what you want. ad the icons and wallpaper, change the start button, and voila! Xfce also has the advantage of the two paned file browser Thunar and the interactive control panel which though not XPish of itself will make sense to an XP user.
here is a link to an Xp theme at Xfce-look.org:
http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.p ... tent=83797

37fleetwood wrote:I just got done reading this thread through and have a few questions. I notice you are trying to get Jwm and Icewm to look like XP wouldn't it be much easier to start with something like NOP with Xfce4 which starts out looking XPish. with a very few tweaks Xfce will look very like what you want. ad the icons and wallpaper, change the start button, and voila! Xfce also has the advantage of the two paned file browser Thunar and the interactive control panel which though not XPish of itself will make sense to an XP user.
here is a link to an Xp theme at Xfce-look.org:
http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.p ... tent=83797

Really, in my case (I didn't start the thread) it was more of a just see if you can do it type thing and found out it was very easy...

Certainly your way is another way to go...

To be honest with you, in the grand scheme of converting-xp'ers-to-puppy there may be more to customizing than to making it look like xp: I recently set up my wife's laptop with puppy, adding the pink icons and butterflies and such and, even after years of trying to convince her with the doesn't-it-look-like-xp concept, she suddenly was an instant convert.

steve_s wrote:

37fleetwood wrote:I just got done reading this thread through and have a few questions. I notice you are trying to get Jwm and Icewm to look like XP wouldn't it be much easier to start with something like NOP with Xfce4 which starts out looking XPish. with a very few tweaks Xfce will look very like what you want. ad the icons and wallpaper, change the start button, and voila! Xfce also has the advantage of the two paned file browser Thunar and the interactive control panel which though not XPish of itself will make sense to an XP user.
here is a link to an Xp theme at Xfce-look.org:
http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.p ... tent=83797

Really, in my case (I didn't start the thread) it was more of a just see if you can do it type thing and found out it was very easy...

Certainly your way is another way to go...

To be honest with you, in the grand scheme of converting-xp'ers-to-puppy there may be more to customizing than to making it look like xp: I recently set up my wife's laptop with puppy, adding the pink icons and butterflies and such and, even after years of trying to convince her with the doesn't-it-look-like-xp concept, she suddenly was an instant convert.

From my own experience with my ex-girl friends...It does not matter if it is a red hat a debian a windows 2000 or windows seven...

All they want is pinkie desktops and little hearts flowing bouncing all over the desktop//

in my case it was simply that I wanted a simple interface and to be able to avoid the terminal. us ex-Xper's don't need an XP look alike we need something relatively easy to figure out. recently Linux has changed from something for techies to something more suited for daily use by anyone. recently I had a friend who I finally talked into trying Linux. I handed him two options Puppy NOP and OpenGEU which uses enlightenment, he chose OpenGEU because it was stunning looking. everyone knows enlightenment is about as far from XP as Linux gets. again give us an easy to figure out interface and it doesn't have to look like Windows at all.

Its ok maybe for some as a short lived transitional phase, As long as its kept basic, but once the Linux newbee gets a taste of what we've done with other versions of puppy, They usually will change over to a purest linux release. It just has to feel a bit like something they are used too, but Women on the other hand, dress it up in pink, maybe a cute background like that teletubbies which was in the wallpaper section, or a b/w picture of topless guy, and Firefox with a IE7 theme and they should be good to go, a Skype install link might also be needed, women like to chit chat, lol
ttuuxxx

Firefox with a IE7 theme

I would concurr



Long term change requires short term compromise.

I would like to see standard puppy be more "reminiscent" of other OS's people are already used to. This "hooks them in" and then they go onto more "pure" linux forms. If puppy is a tool for "linux newbies" then it is also a tool for learning linux. When teaching something new, start with something the student already knows about (I hold a teaching qualification).

Women do like chit chat (according to national health statistics they suffer a far higher percentage of problems with their Jaws!). Facebook chat is a must but either requires JAVA (huge) or a simply attym plugin (tiny). Since proportionally not many women are involved (yet) in the Open Source development process, its up to us to make sure their needs are catered for.

as long i work computer for my custumer, not only look like XP but must look like microsoft, so i decided to change all puppy look going to similar with Microsoft.

a new user is afraid when computer they use, is deferent then he was use. when iam using open office, they cannot recognice the icon, so i change the icon with Microsoft icon.

an other thing on puppy (linux) is the filemanager who very deferent than Explorer on Xp. but rox on puppy is a great choice. i can teach them how to use it in a few second, but if i teach how to use a Explorer on Xp it more than a minute. user just need how to move file from flashdisk and what his working, downloading or other else.

for chating, i think now is era for facebook, so i decided to move all chat client, yahoo just a gateaway to make facebook id on my country, but i not leg it go, we can still using yahoo mesengger web for chating or meebo for suport other chat server.

this is example of ny client look :


ttuuxx : i use your idea to use fbpanel and openbox, because if using jwm, dialog box when upload something on firefox is always over the screen so user must remove to the top to klik on ok buton.