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Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 14:15
by 01micko
Minnesota wrote:
OK.....can we go one small step forward with this... Please put 511 in puppy's face.
512 next version
.. Poor Puppy!
I don't think "in your face" is the right approach for everybody so I have come up with an alternative,
Now
tasmod created his firewall tray app which is very nice, (see
here), works great for me and has version info included. It's not standard Puppy fare at the moment (but that could change) so I took the machete to some more of Barry's code ..(
.. he may take the machete to me soon
)
Now, the freememapplet_tray shows a tooltip (balloon for some) showing the size of your pupsave/partition and free space left over. If you click that it invokes 'partview'.. an app that shows your partitions and free space left, with a nice little bar graph. You may not know this because there is no indication.
I have added to the tooltip that clicking will invoke Partview. I have also added to Partview some version information, Puppy version and kernel.. referred to in the tooltip.
Note that this is my hacked version of Barry's freememapplet_tray with the stacked rings, as opposed to Barry's original with the single ring that slides up (well mostly down) the post.
The following .pet contains the newly compiled freememapplet_tray and the adjusted Partview.
Feedback please.
Cheers.
Smile and laugh for the day
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 14:26
by Minnesota
01micko
Smile and laugh for the day when I read your response... good step forward.
Very good creative solution.. just curious is it automatic then as to different puppies and versions? Yes in your face is or Puppy's face not so good. Idea was....
)))).
Have great weekend.
G
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 15:21
by Jim1911
Great
Fresh frugal installation on ext4 partition. Very solid, everything works as it should and I've added many extras. It's so good that 510 has already been moved to a backup directory.
Consider adding
PupShutdown-1.3 to the lucid ppm repository. Works great with Lucid.
Thanks,
Jim
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 15:37
by Stripe
01micko wrote:
Note that this is my hacked version of Barry's freememapplet_tray with the stacked rings, as opposed to Barry's original with the single ring that slides up (well mostly down) the post.
The following .pet contains the newly compiled freememapplet_tray and the adjusted Partview.
.
Best one yet 01micko love the stacked rings as opposed to the single ring sliding down. (easier to tell with a glance)
Stripe
Just noticed the drop down menus are not working properly in cups 1.4.3 as when I was setting a printer up I couldnt print a test page
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 18:05
by rjbrewer
Luci 217 with its' 126mb size booted into my P3 laptop, 128mb ram,
no swap, fairly quickly.
It did freeze up while trying to navigate through the forum, using
Netsurf from live cd.
My remastered 5.1 full install 187mb iso runs very fast even without swap;
(and still have 5mb ram to squander at my own discretion)
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 18:32
by playdayz
1) I don't have 'Complete Configuration Experience' on desktop
I must do :
Menu > Setup > CCE in order to get 'my' keyboard layout, Time Zone, Video driver, locale etc...
After that azerty, fr_Fr, Time zone (UTC) are right.
Tasgarth, The CCE was present as an option on the first run dialog wasn't it? And then if you don't do it then you do have to get it from the menu. Oh, did you do a full install and then when you first booted the full install the first run dialog did not run--we had fixed that in 510 but 511 is built differently so we need to do it again if that is what happened. Thanks.
01micko, was that in delayed run that you patched so that first run would run in full install--if so I guess we will pick it up when we use your new delayed run.
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 18:35
by playdayz
using Netsurf from live cd.
rj, Can you tell I am getting irritated with Netsurf?
I have tried to contact the developers but haven't heard back yet. This is the second overture I have made--it seems strange to me that people would be uninterested in having their program used as default browser by a top ten distro. But last night I was playing with alternatives--you should be able to guess
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 18:48
by rjbrewer
playdayz wrote:using Netsurf from live cd.
rj, Can you tell I am getting irritated with Netsurf?
I have tried to contact the developers but haven't heard back yet. This is the second overture I have made--it seems strange to me that people would be uninterested in having their program used as default browser by a top ten distro. But last night I was playing with alternatives--you should be able to guess
Basically I was running without ram; a different browser probably
wouldn't help in that situation.
Was just demonstrating a case where a full install is a good idea;
(low ram oldies) and how good 5.1 is on old equipment.
I'll add swap and see what happens to Netsurf.
Edit:
See what you mean about Netsurf.
Adding 256mb swap didn't help; still froze using the forum.
Installed my 1.1.18 Seamonkey and it's working better.
I need to try frugal and see what happens.
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 19:38
by playdayz
rcrsn51 has prepared a
HowTo for Printers and Scanners in Lucid Puppy. That's a great help to people, newbies and otherwise I bet. It is linked on Lupu News and from the Tips/Tricks/FAQ's message in the Lucid Puppy 5.1 Bugs thread. The first message in that thread may be the basis for some revised Help documentation in 5.2. Thanks.
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 20:48
by Tasgarth
playdayz wrote:
Tasgarth, The CCE was present as an option on the first run dialog wasn't it?
No it wasn't:
1) Live-CD > ... OK with CEE and QP etc...> Full Install (icon on the desktop) > .... > OK but
First screen was right without any CEE.
That is why i used Menu > Setup > CEE...
Cheers,
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 20:59
by 01micko
Barry did compile a tiny version of SM somewhere, less than 10MB compressed...
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ial-q1.pet.. and a special DEV file.
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:07
by playdayz
Tasgarth, The CCE was present as an option on the first run dialog wasn't it?
No it wasn't:
1) Live-CD > ... OK with CEE and QP etc...> Full Install (icon on the desktop) > .... > OK but
First screen was right without any CEE.
There was no first run dialog on the first boot of the full install--do I have it now?
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:09
by 01micko
chrismt wrote:
This just removed my network tray icon in my IceWm
How do I bring it back?
You didn't get the new tray icon? Strange. If you have an issue just uninstall the pet
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:12
by rjbrewer
The options screen appeared for me on live cd boot; then was
covered by Netsmurf welcome screen after a few seconds.
Killed the smurf!
Used classic config to set resolution.
Frugal install with just 128mb ram automatically created a 100mb
swap file on 2nd reboot.
That basically made it the equal of my full install without swap.
Takes about 15 seconds longer for a frugal to boot.
The 1.1.18-p4.pet seamonkey I use is 11mb in size.
It has better font legibility and size than any of these new browsers.
It;s simple.....no freakin sidebar that I can't seem to get rid of.
It will enable mms and rtsp streams that the new ones don't.
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:23
by bigpup
You can get different versions of Seamonkey here.
http://www.lamarelle.org/mo-zi-lla/mozilla.php#smf
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:25
by Stripe
Hi
Just installed seamonkey1-1.1.18-special-q1 no problem seems to work great,
Listing missing shared libraries: libsoftokn3.so libxpcom_compat.so
Hope this helps
Stripe
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:32
by 01micko
Good one bigpup, I forgot about Phillipe's builds, the i386 sm 1.1.19 build (browser only) is only 9MB compressed, and statically built so should not need deps.
Cheers
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 21:39
by pemasu
Luci217 frugal install. I have played with acpitool to get laptop sleep, it works even with my faulty ACPI/BIOS. And tried to use rfkill but kernel does not support it. Well... I will need kernel recompiling for working acpi so rfkill will be fixed at the same time.
From Fluppy004 I found Xbindkeys-config app suggested by jemimah. It is brilliant tool to bind keys to executable commands. I got sleep and hibernate buttons to work in Fluppy and sleep button to work in Luci217. Basically switching off power consuming devices when needed is my main aim.
I made pet package from lucid repo xbindkeys, xbindkeys-config and dependencies which I thought will be needed. It has also pinstall.sh which creates basic .xbindkeysrc file.
Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 22:57
by James C
01micko wrote:ok.. time to be "not so serious"...
(it is the week end after all
)
I made an iconset for the new blinky.. (er.. network_tray to be more "official"
).. if you recall there's an alternate set for this blinky in the main thread (approaching 140 pages
)
Try if you want, should uninstall ok.
Cheers
Finally got around to installing........survived changing window managers a couple of times and a reboot.Still working.
Posted: Sun 22 Aug 2010, 00:04
by 01micko
zigbert wrote:
--> The everlasting issue that the exec-button in geany is still there. The answer is also still the same: 'term_cmd=/usr/X11R7/bin/xterm -e bash -c' in /root/.config/geany.conf
In this latest version just
/usr/bin/xterm -e bash -c is needed
zigbert wrote:
gtkdialog scripts will benefit of that. (Fullscreen, do not show in tray, on top, ...) Some of my scripts already uses classes as they are defined in Stardust (DuDE). This is what is added in my /root/.jwmrc:
I think so, with the addition of
gtkdialog-splash class (goes in the XDG template)
Code: Select all
<Group>
<Class>fullscreen</Class>
<Option>layer:12</Option>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>maximized</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>applet</Class>
<Option>layer:1</Option>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<!-- above other apps, but below main tray -->
<Class>ontop</Class>
<Option>layer:7</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>maximized</Class>
<Option>maximized</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>nolist</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>noborder</Class>
<Option>noborder</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>notitle</Class>
<Option>notitle</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>sticky</Class>
<Option>sticky</Option>
</Group>
<Group>
<Class>gtkdialog-splasht</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>
Also, we need to clean up the /root/.jwmrc_tray file for the tray apps, comment or delete blinky, freememapplet-shell and absvolume.