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Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:09
by Iguleder
Activate what? These are the sources. It's are the kernel SFS, just install it as any other SFS. It's needed if you want to install third-party drivers.

Regarding the menu generator - just read my comment.

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:20
by nooby
Big friendly smile :)

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 11:46
by Iguleder
Oh, forgot to upload the traditional screeny, so here it is 8)

Puppy and Window Maker are indeed an awesome combination.

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:01
by Darkgame
Hmm... Guess i have to remove xorg_high myself. I have never done anything like this before. How do i remove xorg_high from the sfs??

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:02
by Iguleder
You can't remove it easily, you'll have to extract the SFS, delete the files and create a new SFS.

The clean way to do this is building your own copy of Next using Woof. :)

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:06
by Darkgame
Err... Woof? Or you mean woofy?
Ive used woofy before. There will an option to delete files from the sfs, as long as u give it the directory of files to delete.
As for woof, ive always thought its too dangerous to even install it

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:14
by Iguleder
You can get the list of files that came with Xorg_High through /root/.packages/builtin_files/Xorg_High. Just delete those. You could also use Barry's tool to remaster and remove the files, I just don't remember its name.

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 12:53
by Darkgame
cool. Thanks alot.
I will be using woofy soon!

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 13:02
by stu90
Just got round to installing Next puppy - nice work Iguleder 8) very minimal and completely different to anything i have ever tried before :shock:
wm-xdgmenu.pet works well and is very fast to generate the menus.

cheers.

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 13:35
by Iguleder
Currently building the first testing build of alpha 2, this one is way better. Menus work out of the box and it has some extras, like LXTask and Viewnior.

Thanks for the inspiration, stu90 :D

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:08
by nooby
Iguleder wrote:Oh, forgot to upload the traditional screeny, so here it is 8)

Puppy and Window Maker are indeed an awesome combination.
So if I get it which I doubt I do???

What you show there is only available if one know how to get it going.

But in next version it will be there from scratch without us needing to install it? I don't remember that my "Next" had that feature?

I try to give exact name and date of my Next.

next-5.0.0.iso 14 Aug 2011 21 PM my local time I guess.
is that one too old then or should I have installed something failed to find that text or instruction?

Edit after reading this explanation.
I explained exactly how to get menus working in alpha 1. Just install that PET and run wm-xdgmenu.

Yes it is my bad you did the right thing. I have to read in the structured way you wrote it and sooner or later I get how one does it.

thanks for your patience.

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 14:17
by Iguleder
Alpha 1 has pretty much nothing and it feels very incomplete. The next version has menus working.

And no, I explained exactly how to get menus working in alpha 1. Just install that PET and run wm-xdgmenu.

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:15
by aragon
Hi iguleder,

I've checked your menu-script. It's very fast but has some problems. You're parsing the files for main-categories, but these aren't the real names. Please check /etc/xdg/menus/hierarchy, for the correct grouped cats.

Aragon

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 16:24
by Iguleder
Yep, I know. I did this for two reasons:
1) Makes the script way faster; it consumes less memory, there's no need for two-dimensional arrays or lots of dynamic memory allocation.
2) It's accurate enough, since Puppy's menu entries already match Puppy's menu structure.

I can improve the script, but I see no reason. It's good enough and very fast this way.

Next Puppy 5.0.0 Alpha 1

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 17:58
by Billtoo
I installed next 5 to my compaq desktop which has intel graphics.

Fri 19 Aug 2011 Operating System: Next Puppy-5.0.0 Linux 2.6.39
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
oem: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200
Core 0: 1200 1: 2500 MHz

It's working well on this pc.

The screenshot is an hd video playing full screen

Themes

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 19:38
by pacer106
I have been tryin out next & really really like it a lot :)

Great Job Iguleder!!! :)

I went lookin for themes & found a site with many here is a link.

http://www.jessanderson.org/wmthemes/

I installed it simply by unpacking the tar.gz through xterm then moved the created folder to ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes & it showed up in the appearance menu. I switched to it & it loaded up :) fonts need adjusting through editing the style shellscript located in the themes folder.

again thanks Iguleder if you had not made this next pup version i would not have learned many things over the last few days :)

I would post a screenshot of the theme i installed but not sure how to take one just yet as soon as i do ill post it :)

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 19:55
by Iguleder
I'll make a big bunch of font packages, don't worry. I just want to get alpha 2 ready first.

It has many changes, and the biggest difference is the fact the packages are also packaged automatically now. Previously, they were built automatically but had to be packaged manually - now I can rebuild the whole repository in 15 minutes.

I'll automate font packages too and maybe even add some fonts to the ISO - its size should drop to somewhere in the 65 to 70 MB range, so spending 1-3 MB on fonts is justified, :)

Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 21:15
by deepsea
Moin
Iguleder

Thanks for your great job :wink:
I playing a round a little bit with your puplett and at moment i am impressed . :lol:
The best debian near puppy I have ever tested. And I'm looking for a long time for a puppy near Debian.
Here a screen from my short test.
Xcfe4 plus Thunar costs aprox 20MB :cry:

Next Puppy 5.0.0 Alpha 1

Posted: Sat 20 Aug 2011, 00:11
by Billtoo
I ran the Peacekeeper benchmark with Seamonkey 2.3 and Firefox 6.0,it's a tie.

Posted: Sat 20 Aug 2011, 00:24
by edoc
You used Aurora to run Peacekeeper?

WDYT of Aurora?

I still long for a really small and quick browser.

Midori, reporting as Safari, has been an excellent performer in Fluppy.

Dillo seems to have been abandoned and forgotten.