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My wifi adapter it not supported, is there any way to fix it?

This OS runs much faster than Slacko or Precise and still has the fancy stuff on it. The paint app is not a pain in the a**. A great selection of games. Duke Nukem 3D is my favourite. It's been 2 days I've installed this and I already like it enough to suggest a friend to install it on his old computer.

Another thing, your website says 2 other versions of Legacy are coming in 2013 but the year is almost over. Can we have a more accurate date? I was very much looking forward to it.

Hello Usman55,
I had planned to release 2 more Legacy OS versions this year. My full time job work load has increased substantially. Family commitments has left very little time to work on Legacy. While one of the 2 planned releases is close to being released sadly problems has arisen with the other which means it isn't suitable for release.
As Legacy OS 2.1 Gamer was developed for someone to set up an old PC to play games on, WiFi support isn't and won't be supported in the future.

Any future Legacy OS Series 2 releases will also not include support for most WiFi adapters, Sorry!

Greetings Big John.

" While one of the 2 planned releases is close to being released
sadly problems has arisen with the other which means it isn't suitable
for release. "

No disrespect mate.

Have you thought of getting some help here to finish it??

Plenty of willing people to assist you I'm sure.

Regards....Chris.

Hello cthisbear,
You've been a big supporter of Legacy OS and it's appreciated!

While it would be great to assemble a team of talented programmers to work on Legacy OS in reality I don't think it would happen.

OK if any programmer wants to prove me wrong please reply to post.

Personally I love the 2 series of puppy on which Legacy OS 2 is based. What would be interesting to see is what Kernel version later than 2.6.18.1 could be shoe horned in to Legacy and still run with it current system files. Newer kernels bring better support for WiFi etc. Normally when you update a kernel glibc is also updated.
If anyone wants to run an kernel experiment with Legacy OS 2 and has success please let me know. If it is stable I'd be happy to include in future releases.

Is there no workaround the wifi problem?

Hello Usman55,
I have had limited success with some early Wifi cards. If your trying to log on to Wifi requiring a password even if your card is recognized your Wifi card won't connect. I have only had success with full open Wifi networks.
Have you run the Network wizard and tried manually insert wifi drivers and testing. What have you done to connect to Wifi? What steps did you take?

If you could post which wifi adapter you are using, someone might have some suggestions. Thanks, Rob

john biles wrote:Hello Usman55,
I have had limited success with some early Wifi cards. If your trying to log on to Wifi requiring a password even if your card is recognized your Wifi card won't connect. I have only had success with full open Wifi networks.
Have you run the Network wizard and tried manually insert wifi drivers and testing. What have you done to connect to Wifi? What steps did you take?

When wlan was not an option at the main screen of the wizard, I tried choosing a Windows driver by inserting my driver disc and choosing the .inf files. But I got an empty msg box instead. I tried the "choose automatically" option from the list of drivers and it did select a driver but the wifi option again didn't show up.

oligin10 wrote:If you could post which wifi adapter you are using, someone might have some suggestions. Thanks, Rob

It says on it's drivers disc "Linksys Wireless Network USB Adapter Model No. WUSB100"

Hi Usman55, doesn't look good. A quick search showed this is by Ralink Technology with 3 possible drivers and not likely to be able to get to work with this kernel. Sorry, Rob

http://wikidevi.com/wiki/WDTV_Live_Supported_Adapters

Hello oligin10,
Thanks for taking the time to search for info. As you stated Legacy OS 2's kernel may be to old to support Usman55's Wifi adaptor.

This OS runs much faster than Slacko or Precise and still has the fancy stuff on it. The paint app is not a pain in the a**. A great selection of games. Duke Nukem 3D is my favourite. It's been 2 days I've installed this and I already like it enough to suggest a friend to install it on his old computer.

One of the reasons Legacy OS runs faster is because of its 6 to 7 year old system base, it still thinks it's 2000 to 2007. Because of this, older PC's and Laptops become usable again because to Legacy their not old. Once we start to update this and that over time Legacy would slowdown and become less usable on the very hardware it was intended for.

With this in mind every effort is taken to still make Legacy usable in the real world. For example Legacy OS 2.1 Gamer contains Opera 12.02 (Replacing Opera 10) the last Web browser Version update that will every run on the Legacy OS 2 series. This browser is HTML5 compatible. A user can Facebook, watch Youtube and do most of what the average user would do online. Which is pretty good if you're running a Pentium III PC which originally came with Windows 98 SE. One of my main PC's is a 698Mhz Pentium III used for testing and daily use. No other Linux OS comes close to making this PC as usable as it is with Legacy OS 2 on it.

If giving users support for later Hardware makes Legacy OS unusable on the very Hardware it was designed for then what would be the point of Legacy OS?

That would be fine. I'll dual boot it with XP. But replacing XP with linux was what I had in mind. And after testing literally dozens of distros, I've found Legacy OS to be the best. You've done a wonderful job by making such a cool OS that has complete functionality along with the speed factor.

Thanks for the research, oligin.

umair wrote:Rob
Thnx for the info. I remember that I installed Legacy OS 2 successfully with 512 MB RAM. heres the link http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 69&t=70151
Anyhow I will set 256 MB RAM in my PC. Can u tell me that decreasing the RAM will work with Unitbootin ? As I have a doubt on my CD ROM Drive that its not working properly.

@ John: I successfully installed your Legacy OS 2 Gamer Release. Actually a cd was not burn properly before. I really loved your teen pup mini as I used it for a long time. Not tried Legacy OS 1. Legacy OS 2 was just ok for me. Teen pup Mini 4 was buggy (thts only my opinion) . For me your this release is the best release ever till date. Everything is working out of the box. Keep it up man .
UMAIR

downloading now. i should enjoy this one. thanks!

I've found that 11.64 is the last version of Opera which allows me to watch Youtube videos, so I'm using that one at the moment (in Legacy 2.1).

One last question John (or someone else if they know) if I may please; if you install OpenOffice 3 from the "Extra Applications" repo as I've done, how do you get spell checking working in it? This is a perennial problem I've had with Open Office over the years unfortunately.

Installing Wine in Legacy 2.1 gives you some more options for browsing. KMeleon 1.5.4 is a nice and lightweight browser which works just fine in Wine 1.3.7 (the one in the Legacy repositories) or, if you want a bigger browser, Firefox 27 for Windows works just fine in it; I'm posting from it now. I installed Firefox 4 for Windows and let it update twice.

I've still not been able to get Internet Explorer working in Wine, but to be honest it doesn't feel like much of a loss at the moment.

Hi John,
BIG thanks for Legacy OS 2.1 Gamer - I set it up on my son's desktop computer which is PIII vintage, and it has been keeping him and his sister very well entertained. SuperTux is a particular hit, though I think it has been superseded by your preparation of "Beneath a Steel Sky" which I loaded up for them during my visit today. (They will also discover "Flight of the Amazon Queen" plus a few others I secretly included from your repository )
Many thanks for all your detailed work with it. I noted only that I couldn't seem to access Action>Show Location with pfind ("Error. No file selected") - is that just me, is it working for anyone else? I should mention that while I did a frugal install to the ide hd, with Grub2 (and also separately grub4dos to the MBR), we can only really boot successfully from the CD. Might be a dodgey/grubby CD copied key files less-than-optimally from the original burn, but I will run a separate MD5 on the Big 4 as a process of elimination. Still working very sweetly indeed for all the games and other programs that we've tested.
You earlier asked for suggestions for other possible candidates in the Gamer repository/canon. Could I second sc0ttman's suggestion of DosBoxGame Launcher http://members.quicknet.nl/blankendaalr/dbgl/? You already have a compatible version of DosBox packaged with Gamer 2.1, and the other big dependency is Java 1.5. Would it be plausible, maybe as an SFS?
The only other suggestion is from my son - he got through SuperTux in less than a week and is asking for SuperTux2. It seems that the developer and his game engine has a bit of a cult following, and fans have volunteered extra levels that would continue to expand the possibilities for "old" hardware recycling, it seems to me.

Thanks again for an incredible job

Hello Puppyt,
I've created a tar.gz package of dbgl and uploaded it to the Legacy Gamer repo at SourceForge. Can you please test and confirm it works. You'll find it under Accessories > Command Line in the menu. Please comment as I don't want a non working app available for download. App works intesting. Enjoy!

Thanks John! Brilliant - I'll test it later today, very excited to test if your DBGL front-end works OOTB with Legacy Gamer 2.1's pre-selected Java and DosBox versions - would be testament to your foresight in picking the best 'sweetspot' for dated hardware
http://sourceforge.net/projects/legacyo ... 0Packages/ for the reference of all who will follow.
PS Could you also include your SourceForge parent folder link in your signature? I'm so disorganised that it often takes me *ages* to track down the repositories again between breaks (plus, good broadcasting of your latest work for anyone catching any of your previous posts on the Murga forum. Just an idea to spread your kudos)

UPDATE: The machine has no internet access so I'm muddling around this issue when I run dbgl from terminal:
Reckon I just have to create a symlink in a new /usr/bin/java directory, but I can't work out which one?
EDIT: Couldn't find out how to run javaws, kjava etc - wasn't sure where the java executive was located. Something about my frugal install, perhaps - would it be different with a full installation?

Hello Puppyt,
I've uploaded a Java Package to SourceForge for you to install and test. Hopefully this will get dbgl working for you. Please let me know if it's successful.

Cheers John - I hope to have another chance to run it through tomorrow, much appreciated!