pFind 6.3

[Béèm]

Béèm
Your problems with sorting is a gtk issue rather than Pfind. - That is why I have made unique sort functions available from the menu.

How date is shown is also defined by gtk


Sigmund

What is gtk?
I ask this as a simple end-user having an issue with a product he likes to use.
Your answer is like answering in Chinese or Norwegian.

It never occurred to me, having a clickable header that does apparently some sorting, that the sorting isn't the same as when started from the menu.
For the benefit of end-users, I think it's better not to have the possibility to click on a header for sorting purposes, but eventually issue a warning to use the menu.

Being a developer I think you should make applications whose technical aspects and functionality are transparent for the end-user.

What do you want me to do, now I know that issues are gtk's ones.
Well I don't know.

I am rather disappointed in your answer here and I suppose none of my other questions will be answered neither.

[ttuuxxx]

My locale is set to Belgium and thus the date is dd/mm/yy (or dd/mm/yyyy)
But the date selection fields in the advanced search shows mm/dd/yyyy

Can this be corrected?

Hi Beem the date is usually controlled by gtk2
I bet if you open a terminal and type date it will also be backwards.
you might try typing in a string like export LC_TIME=nl_NL in a terminal if that's the local your using, you can find the locales name in usr/lib/locale Its not a pfinds issue, its a gtk2 local issue your having.
Also if you type date --help in a terminal it will display the options.

Also if your using JWM window manager
open /root/.jwmrc-tray as text and look for <Clock format="%a %b %d, %l:%M %p ">minixcal</Clock>
next change it to
<Clock format="%a %d %b, %l:%M %p ">minixcal</Clock>
and it will have the date before month on the taskbar and would look like below.
ttuuxxx

[zigbert]

Being a developer I think you should make applications whose technical aspects and functionality are transparent for the end-user.

That's what guis are for.

Pfind doesn't actually do something new, - it just let you skip the terminal when searching for a file. There are plenty of different file-searching guis, and you should pick the one you like the most. In Puppy (or in the Puppy repo), you'll find great tools like Zfind, Puppysearch and Searchmonkey that do the same thing as Pfind.

I am rather disappointed in your answer here and I suppose none of my other questions will be answered neither.

I am rather disappointed in your attitude to people using their spare time trying to help you.

For the benefit of end-users, I think it's better not to have the possibility to click on a header for sorting purposes

To be considered.


Sigmund

[Béèm]

@ttuuxxx
GTK2 and it effects doesn't mean much to me being simple end-user.
What does it do to applications?

Attached is the date/time display I have. I did put "%R" in the JWM-tray for the clock format.
In a terminal it gives:

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# date
wo jun  9 12:04:09 CEST 2010
# export LC_TIME=nl_BE@euro
#

kinda month first then day then year.

With my locale set at nl_BE@euro, I don't have any problem in applications like OOo. I get the dd/mm/yy (or yyyy) and the punctuation for thousand and decimal is correct also.

I never used searchmonkey and had a quick look. I didn't have a problem to set the date at dd/mm/yyyy

So why can't it be done in pfind?

[disciple]

For the benefit of end-users, I think it's better not to have the possibility to click on a header for sorting purposes

To be considered.

I think some version(s) of pfind was/were like that, but someone (probably me) persuaded you to reenable clickable headers because they are much faster, more reliable (occasionally gtkdialog stuffs up when using the menu sort), and more convenient... at least once you know that you need to use the sort menu for size.

I wonder if it would be easy to make it configurable, so people can enable clickable-menus, and to do so they would see an explanation that they need to use the sort menu for some columns.

[disciple]

Is the date format in pfind really controlled by gtk? I'll have to look at the code again...

@ttuuxxx
GTK2 and it effects doesn't mean much to me being simple end-user.
What does it do to applications?

Pfind is a simple (well, no a complicated ) shell script that uses another program, gtkdialog to produce a gui for another program, find. It is therefore limited to some extent by the capabilities of those other programs.

I never used searchmonkey and had a quick look. I didn't have a problem to set the date at dd/mm/yyyy

So why can't it be done in pfind?

Changing the date format could be done in pfind (as could your other request - exporting all the columns). It is just a question of how complicated (and slow) it will be, and whether Sigmund (or someone else) puts in the time to write new code for it. Personally I think everyone should always use the 2010/06/09 format as it easily sorted (e.g. if you used a different format in Pfind you couldn't sort it by clicking the column header either).

Unfortunately it is not feasible (unless there is something we don't know) to sort the size column (or a column of dates in another format) due to the limitations of gtkdialog.

[disciple]

Hey Zigbert, did you know that "sort by extension" omits any results that don't have an extension?

[Béèm]

Thanks disciple.
That makes more sense to me now. Hope I retain the lesson.
Now this quote makes more sense to me also.

"I would be pointing the finger at gtk2...the source of all bugginess" - mikeb

So OOo doesn't use GTKDialog and therefor formatting is developed by the developer.

I tried to see how Pfind looked like, but it is a rather special form.

As for searchmonkey, I don't know if it's GTKDialog based also. I see it as a binary file only. But the date selection is through a calendar.

Also I have no objection to use 2010/06/09 as this is indeed YYYY/MM/DD
In fact when I put a date in a file name, I use for today, xxxx.2010.06.09.xxx

And now I discovered that one can sort a column through the menu, which renders correctly, I avoid pushing the header for sorting.
So it would be nice if pushing on a header to sort renders the same way as through the menu, but if too complicated it can stay as it is.

[zigbert]

Hey Zigbert, did you know that "sort by extension" omits any results that don't have an extension?

Got it!

thank you
Sigmund

[disciple]

So OOo doesn't use GTKDialog and therefor formatting is developed by the developer.

OOo doesn't use gtkdialog or even GTK - they have their own unique gui toolkit. OOo can mimic your GTK theme though.

As for searchmonkey, I don't know if it's GTKDialog based also.

No, searchmonkey does not use gtkdialog - it is a standard c & gtk program.

Also I have no objection to use 2010/06/09 as this is indeed YYYY/MM/DD

Ah... sorry, I'd got confused about which date format you were getting.

"I would be pointing the finger at gtk2...the source of all bugginess" - mikeb

The quote is somewhat tongue-in-cheek - I don't think GTK is really that bad.
In the case of Pfind I think the limitations are less the fault of GTK itself than of gtkdialog, which is really quite primitive.

[zigbert]

Version 4.19
See main post


changelog
- Improved language detection (thanks to wow)
- .desktop file includes several languages (thanks to shinobar)
- Reduced size of NLS file
- Sort from tree-header is disabled (didn't work very well) - sort from menu (thanks to Beem)
- Bugfix: path to pfind-view in case more than 500 hits
- Bugfix: some search options failed in combination with 'exclude' option
- Bugfix: "sort by extension" omits any results that don't have an extension? (thanks to disciple)

[disciple]

Hi again, here are some more bugs I thought I had already reported them... but maybe I forgot.

1. The action buttons don't work if you searched in ./
e.g. the browse button produces an error like this for each file:

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cp: `/tmp/searchresult15883/07 Vals Venezolano': can make relative symbolic links only in current directory

e.g. the play button produces errors like this for each file, although you'll get a different error if you don't use audacious:

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unix-io: Cannot open /tmp/./Tim Daniel/Grace Mercy And Peace/11 God Is With Us.mp3: No such file or directory.
MADPlug-Message: error initialising input

2. pfind -d doesn't work with paths with spaces.

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# pfind -d "/initrd/mnt/dev_save/My Documents/Alister New/Multimedia/Music/new"
find: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/My: No such file or directory
find: Documents: No such file or directory
find: New/Multimedia/Music: No such file or directory

** ERROR **: GtkDialog: Could not find the dialog description in the environment variable 'MAIN_DIALOG'.
aborting...
/usr/local/pfind/pfind: line 442: 22182 Aborted                 gtkdialog3 is /usr/sbin/gtkdialog3

3. When you click the browse button the symlinks created do not have extensions. Or is this intentional?

[Sit Heel Speak]

A search which looks on a terabyte of storage takes a few minutes.
Meanwhile, I work on Computer #2.
Then, the PFind search-results window appears on Computer #1.
I turn back to Computer #1 but have forgotten what the search term was.
Sometimes it can be inferred, sometimes not...

(Hmm, this looks like a good start on a haiku...)

[disciple]

Yes, I have the same trouble, but only using one computer
Personally I'd like it to display the actual find command that was run... it would help me learn to use find as well as helping with troubleshooting

[zigbert]

Sit Heel Speak
Show find command is a good idea.

disciple
I have looked at the bugs, and fixed 2. The problem of action buttons when using ./ as search-path worked for me. (after fixing the other 2 bugs) Hopefully this happens for you too.


Sigmund

[zigbert]

Version 4.20
See main post

changelog
- Removed quit-button
- Bugfix: When you click the browse button the symlinks created do not have extensions (thanks to disciple)
- Bugfix: pfind -d doesn't work with paths with spaces. (thanks to disciple)

[zigbert]

I will try to rebuild pfilesearch to show 'find' command

[zigbert]

disciple
The reported 'action buttons does not work when searching ./' seems to works with Pfind 4.20. I have not done anything to solve it??????

[edoc]

Is it possible to do a pfind search and then select all (or a group of) results and delete them?

The usual ctrl-arrow and shift-arrow method to select does not appear to work.

At the moment I am trying to delete Google-Chrome (actually anything with "google" in it from my Netwook with Fluppy 005 -- but I'd like to do the same on all of our computers.

Google-chrome does not show up in Package Manager or else I would have done this there (which would probably be a more-clean method).

[disciple]

disciple
The reported 'action buttons does not work when searching ./' seems to works with Pfind 4.20. I have not done anything to solve it??????

Yes, it seems to be fixed now