Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series
ttuuxxx, sinc is asking for Catdude's graphical grub bootpage, which I asked for several times, and it's fallen through the cracks
so here's a link - again
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27471
Original grub bootsplash
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=24452
one of my favourites
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=24406
sinc's link repeated for effect
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 8f685f0970
Aitch
so here's a link - again
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27471
Original grub bootsplash
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=24452
one of my favourites
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=24406
sinc's link repeated for effect
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 8f685f0970
Aitch
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[quote="clarf"
Are we going to have our own logo?, are we going to change the 214X brand?. Are we a fork?
clarf[/quote]well I always liked the 214X brand name, It could be released as 214X, or a name like "Retro Linux" or RL for short but people might think its Ralph Lauren
Barry did mention in his blog he didn't want it as part of puppy mainstream that it would be better as fork, I would say its more of a swiss knife. than a fork
This is what Barry said "Regarding the 2.x series, I'm reluctant to official support it. I think that it will confuse people. I think that if ttuuxxx or anyone else wants to announce it on Distrowatch then they should set it up as a fork. This is of course my very personal opinion on the matter. "
Does that mean we can use the puppy name? And if so lets change all the related puppy names in the scripts etc to what ever name we figure out. well like 70% isn't puppy, its apps that I compiled, and fixes that the community submitted.
ttuuxxx
Are we going to have our own logo?, are we going to change the 214X brand?. Are we a fork?
clarf[/quote]well I always liked the 214X brand name, It could be released as 214X, or a name like "Retro Linux" or RL for short but people might think its Ralph Lauren
Barry did mention in his blog he didn't want it as part of puppy mainstream that it would be better as fork, I would say its more of a swiss knife. than a fork
This is what Barry said "Regarding the 2.x series, I'm reluctant to official support it. I think that it will confuse people. I think that if ttuuxxx or anyone else wants to announce it on Distrowatch then they should set it up as a fork. This is of course my very personal opinion on the matter. "
Does that mean we can use the puppy name? And if so lets change all the related puppy names in the scripts etc to what ever name we figure out. well like 70% isn't puppy, its apps that I compiled, and fixes that the community submitted.
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Thanks. That gives me an idea...ttuuxxx wrote:I made it 48x48 for youabushcrafter wrote:Will try to upload a LOT more in the next few days...
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2.14x rc4 on a superfloppy usb stick
Made a usb stick thats a superfloppy mode because these work on systems where usb dont work, but, I get this on the screen
This is whats on screen when I use the supperfloppy usb stick?
now executing 'init' script in initial-ramdisk
loading kernel modules
looking for puppy in hda1... sda...
mounting /dev/sda on (/initrd)/mnt/dev_ro1...
creating tmpfs for /pup_214x.sfs on (/initrd)/mnt/tmpfs...
copying /pup_214x.sfs to tmpfs... mounting on (/initrd)/pup_ro2...
mounting tmpfs on (/initrd)/pup_rw...
creating unionfs on (/initrd)/pup_new
busybox v1.6.1 multi-call binary
usage: init
init is the parent of all processes
THEN A BLANK SCREEN THAT ANYTHING CAN BE TYPED AND ITS STUCK?
This is whats on screen when I use the supperfloppy usb stick?
now executing 'init' script in initial-ramdisk
loading kernel modules
looking for puppy in hda1... sda...
mounting /dev/sda on (/initrd)/mnt/dev_ro1...
creating tmpfs for /pup_214x.sfs on (/initrd)/mnt/tmpfs...
copying /pup_214x.sfs to tmpfs... mounting on (/initrd)/pup_ro2...
mounting tmpfs on (/initrd)/pup_rw...
creating unionfs on (/initrd)/pup_new
busybox v1.6.1 multi-call binary
usage: init
init is the parent of all processes
THEN A BLANK SCREEN THAT ANYTHING CAN BE TYPED AND ITS STUCK?
Retired from GM, a Etech on engine electronics
Like to play with older computers and TVs
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Like to play with older computers and TVs
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ttuuxx wrote that Barry had said..
I hope you can call it a Puppy and don't see why not just Puppy 214X but if you want to brand it, or if Barry won't support it, then I feel Retro Linux or RetroPup is a bit negative. It may mean something to you and me but to an outsider it could come across as old and dated. Remember branding and positioning are not exactly the same thing.
Dave
Yes when I read that I was surprised and still don't understand why he choses to support jemimah's puppee but not your 214X. I see nothing wrong with puppeee and she has done some great work but it was after all focussed on supporting initially just the asus range of netbooks and I guess now other netbooks. But it's just one of Barry's decisions that I don't understand."Regarding the 2.x series, I'm reluctant to official support it. I think that it will confuse people. I think that if ttuuxxx or anyone else wants to announce it on Distrowatch then they should set it up as a fork. This is of course my very personal opinion on the matter. "
I hope you can call it a Puppy and don't see why not just Puppy 214X but if you want to brand it, or if Barry won't support it, then I feel Retro Linux or RetroPup is a bit negative. It may mean something to you and me but to an outsider it could come across as old and dated. Remember branding and positioning are not exactly the same thing.
Dave
naming 214x
Been thinking of ways to name this version of puppy to reflect it's heritage.. think it needs pup or puppy in the name.... it works extremely well on older limited resource machines... so...
Small Pup For Limited Resources SPFLR
Small Pup fOr Limited Resources SPOLR
Hardware Machines ?
Limited Resource Pup LRP
Resource Limited Puppy RLP
Linux Limited Pup LLP, LiLiPup
Limited Pup LiPup
Fun...
Pup For Fun PUFF
Great Limited Resource Puppy GLRP
Any other suggestions?
Small Pup For Limited Resources SPFLR
Small Pup fOr Limited Resources SPOLR
Hardware Machines ?
Limited Resource Pup LRP
Resource Limited Puppy RLP
Linux Limited Pup LLP, LiLiPup
Limited Pup LiPup
Fun...
Pup For Fun PUFF
Great Limited Resource Puppy GLRP
Any other suggestions?
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has anyone had a similar issue to what earlytv has had in the above post? maybe something like ide=nodma acpi=off in the isolinux.cfg
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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very cuteabushcrafter wrote:Thanks. That gives me an idea...ttuuxxx wrote:I made it 48x48 for youabushcrafter wrote:Will try to upload a LOT more in the next few days...
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Puppy Greyhound for older hardware
Puppy Greyhound for older hardware; faster smaller ?
Puppy 214 Greyhound for your oldtimer
Puppy 214 Runner for older hardware
Puppy 214 Rocket for your oldtimer
Puppy 214 Lightning etc
Puppy 214 advanced softwared for older hardware etc
Puppy 214 Greyhound for your oldtimer
Puppy 214 Runner for older hardware
Puppy 214 Rocket for your oldtimer
Puppy 214 Lightning etc
Puppy 214 advanced softwared for older hardware etc
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Distrowatch
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MHHP
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[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
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Re: Distrowatch
very nice you had me going for a minuteMinHundHettePerro wrote: /
MHHP
I think that was the quickest I ever typed a url www.distrowatch.org ,lol
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Hi MHHP,
You are a bit late for any April Fools jokes but I think that's a great basic for a DistroWatch summary.
So ttuuxxx what are your thoughts about releasing 214X or whatever it's to be called after recent events.
I'm leaving Puppy but would like to see this project to its completion
Happy Easter
Dave
You are a bit late for any April Fools jokes but I think that's a great basic for a DistroWatch summary.
So ttuuxxx what are your thoughts about releasing 214X or whatever it's to be called after recent events.
I'm leaving Puppy but would like to see this project to its completion
Happy Easter
Dave
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Hi Dave where ya going ? Why would you leave puppy ? Anything I can do? We're like a family here, well this thread anyways, some of the others are over the top these days.davesurrey wrote:Hi MHHP,
You are a bit late for any April Fools jokes but I think that's a great basic for a DistroWatch summary.
So ttuuxxx what are your thoughts about releasing 214X or whatever it's to be called after recent events.
I'm leaving Puppy but would like to see this project to its completion
Happy Easter
Dave
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Re: Distrowatch
ttuuxxx wrote:very nice you had me going for a minute
I think that was the quickest I ever typed a url www.distrowatch.org ,lol
ttuuxxx
Well , the fictitious ( ) release date is only 30 days ahead ..........davesurrey wrote:Hi MHHP,
You are a bit late for any April Fools jokes but I think that's a great basic for a DistroWatch summary.
So ttuuxxx what are your thoughts about releasing 214X or whatever it's to be called after recent events.
I'm leaving Puppy but would like to see this project to its completion
Happy Easter
Dave
(And, unfortunately, I was too busy around the turn of the month to post this as a mere April Fool's joke )
Cheers /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
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Hi tuuxxx,
Not going anywhere particular...well perhaps might have another look at Crunchbang and SliTaz.
But I've made myself clear elsewhere that I feel the foundations of Puppy are shaky and need sorting for Puppy's very long term survival.
Sadly it seems few want to listen and some of Barry's recent decisions frankly I can't agree with, such as not supporting 214X. So not wanting to stir anything I'll just bow out.
Absolutely nothing to do with this thread which IMO has been a great example of dev/user cooperation and understanding.
Thanks for that.
Happy Easter and take care.
Dave
Not going anywhere particular...well perhaps might have another look at Crunchbang and SliTaz.
But I've made myself clear elsewhere that I feel the foundations of Puppy are shaky and need sorting for Puppy's very long term survival.
Sadly it seems few want to listen and some of Barry's recent decisions frankly I can't agree with, such as not supporting 214X. So not wanting to stir anything I'll just bow out.
Absolutely nothing to do with this thread which IMO has been a great example of dev/user cooperation and understanding.
Thanks for that.
Happy Easter and take care.
Dave
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Should it ever come to this, I would be most grateful if you'd volunteer to to edit my ten-minute sw-english "release draft" (including the spelling-mistakes I already see) .davesurrey wrote:Hi MHHP,
You are a bit late for any April Fools jokes but I think that's a great basic for a DistroWatch summary.
Those two distros are actually the main distros I've been trying out in parallel to puppy lately (sadly enough, SliTaz 3.0 did not offer any improvement over 2.0 on my (somewhat) dated equipment).davesurrey wrote:Not going anywhere particular...well perhaps might have another look at Crunchbang and SliTaz.
Couldn't agree more!ttuuxxx wrote:We're like a family here, well this thread anyways, some of the others are over the top these days.
Cheers /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
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Hi Dave, no need to blow out/awaydavesurrey wrote:Hi tuuxxx,
Not going anywhere particular...well perhaps might have another look at Crunchbang and SliTaz.
But I've made myself clear elsewhere that I feel the foundations of Puppy are shaky and need sorting for Puppy's very long term survival.
Sadly it seems few want to listen and some of Barry's recent decisions frankly I can't agree with, such as not supporting 214X. So not wanting to stir anything I'll just bow out.
Absolutely nothing to do with this thread which IMO has been a great example of dev/user cooperation and understanding.
Thanks for that.
Happy Easter and take care.
Dave
To be frank with you, Barry has been off his rocker for like 2 weeks now, plain and simple. He used to ignore dumb comments and move on, now he's looking for anything as a scape goat to isolate himself even further, I say whatever, he's done a lot for us all and we've all grown knowledge because of it. and he's also been displaying childishness way like when he said
"Actually, I can do whatever I like. I am the guy who owns the Puppy Linux name. If I decide one day to create a Puppy 6.0, I can do it. I'm in a pessimistic mood right now -- perhaps the idea of the community taking over, or even "community editions", was a bad idea. Perhaps I should remain in charge, bringing out a new Puppy occasionally.
After all, if one or more people are all that keen on creating their own Puppy, they can fork Puppy and do it. "
for like the past year he's been telling us the opposite, he's the one who kept saying, he will retire and puppy 5 will be woof based, but to this day woof is riddled with bugs and bloat and then he complains that nobody released puppy 5 in like the last 5 months since the last 4 series was released, what a 140+mb puppy 5.0?.
I look at it like this, we've done real good in this thread, we've managed to take a old version of puppy and almost totally modernize it. This was never done before on puppy, heck I don't know any linux distro that ever went to this extreme. usually Barry tosses it out and starts a new series with a new base. 214X is pretty much on par with puppy 5, other than the kernel,glibc,alsa,xorg and some ways its better, Its a lot smaller, out of the box support for glib1.2, tcl/tk, full scsi drivers.
At this point Dave If I was you stick around, well at least this thread, If things get too crazy on here, heck we could move to my ttuuxxx forum. Who knows maybe next year we all can group together and start our own linux distro. Forget the forking thing, I'm so not impressed with Barry turning his back on his developers, That really upsets me. Like I said he could lock his blog and make it invite only, like only trusted developers etc and have some sort of control. But to just lock it down and make it read only, how lame and hurtful, its like he thinks that nobody actually has feelings. I look at it like I've been going to work everyday for a couple of years and one day when you get to work its padlocked. Trust me Dave, its not time yet to call it quits. And if you do its been fun having you around.
Best wishes
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Staccato-posting this evening
Forgot to say:
If you do leave, Dave, wherever you may roam from here, it was a pleasure making your acquaintance, always voicing opinions of head-on-the-nail sobriety amongst the rest of us ......
Best wishes /
MHHP
Forgot to say:
If you do leave, Dave, wherever you may roam from here, it was a pleasure making your acquaintance, always voicing opinions of head-on-the-nail sobriety amongst the rest of us ......
Best wishes /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
its funny, i've only been on this forum since early 2009 but I feel like this kinda stuff is common. i've seen all kinds of in-fighting on these threads. i don't know all the background but crazy stuff (I almost started naming off names but no need to).
Ttuuxxx, Barry says to email him if you want to give him any comments so email him. I'm sure he would read something from you.
Dave, come on, don't over-react. If you enjoy puppy and ttuuxxx's versions, whats the difference if Barry is not currently participating. You know, Bill Gates retired from Microsoft.
I like the idea about a whole new linux, that would be something I could learn from. Would you have any idea how to do that? Compile a kernel and add to it, is that it? Well, I know theres more than that, that sounds simplistic but it would be fun watching you work, as it already is
Ttuuxxx, Barry says to email him if you want to give him any comments so email him. I'm sure he would read something from you.
Dave, come on, don't over-react. If you enjoy puppy and ttuuxxx's versions, whats the difference if Barry is not currently participating. You know, Bill Gates retired from Microsoft.
I like the idea about a whole new linux, that would be something I could learn from. Would you have any idea how to do that? Compile a kernel and add to it, is that it? Well, I know theres more than that, that sounds simplistic but it would be fun watching you work, as it already is