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Opening HARDINFO, several fields are not set as they are reporting unknown.
They are Hardinfo>Summary and Hardinfo>Operating System.

Question

• Does Hardinfo get these values from some standard system fields?
• Does Woof set these fields?

Here to help

L18L wrote:

shinobar wrote:

L18L wrote:It is the first time I have got a "black screen" after rebooting.

@L18L and Barry
How about more delay in the /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d?
For example, sleep 2 --> sleep 3

at line 54- wrote:sleep 2 #let the dust settle after X has started.
#w471 slow cpus need more delay (well, rox does)...
DELAYFACTOR=0
CPUMHZ=`grep -m 1 -i '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'`
[ $CPUMHZ ] && [ $CPUMHZ -gt 100 ] && DELAYFACTOR=`expr 1100 \/ $CPUMHZ`
[ $DELAYFACTOR -gt 0 ] && sleep $DELAYFACTOR

my CPUMHZ is 1544 -> DELAYFACTOR=0
But this time I had no black screen so I am not sure if sleep is ok.
Maybe I had been playing too much with backgrounds?
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edit 2012-05-26
had black screen again so I will add 1 second:

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#[ $CPUMHZ ] && [ $CPUMHZ -gt 100 ] && DELAYFACTOR=`expr 1100 \/ $CPUMHZ`
[ $CPUMHZ ] && [ $CPUMHZ -gt 100 ] && DELAYFACTOR=$((1600 / $CPUMHZ)) # 1 sec for my 1514 MHZ CPU

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I will put translation of
/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/README.txt
into my langpack-template

Ok, done.

rerwin wrote:Barry,
I checked the woof-commit and found that a line that should be deleted is still there.

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Changes to woof-code/rootfs-skeleton/etc/rc.d/functions4puppy4

    @@ -3,17 +3,19 @@
     #w468 not using set_mixers() anymore, it's done in /etc/init.d/alsa.
     #w468 choosemousefunc() simplified.
     #101120 new firmware_tarball_func, as /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe rewritten.
     #110722 usb drive, LED light briefly flashes after unmounted, so wait a bit. 110828 remove.
     #120209 slight changes so that SSS mechanism can substitute translations. (see /usr/share/sss/script_strings)
    +#120828 rerwin: record firmware installed in /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}
    +#120828 grep needs -E option, as expression is extended regular expression.
     
     #101119 called from rc.sysinit...
     #global $MODULE is name of module, global $KERNVER.
     firmware_tarball_func() {
      MODULEx="`echo -n "$MODULE" | tr '_' '-'`"
      iPATTERN='^'"${MODULE}"'$|^'"${MODULEx}"'$'
    - if [ "`grep "$iPATTERN" /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}`" = "" ];then
    + if [ "`grep -E "${iPATTERN}" /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}`" = "" ];then #120828 extended-reg-expr
       fPATTERN='[:,]'"${MODULE}"'\.ko|[:,]'"${MODULEx}"'\.ko'
       FIRMPKG="`cat /etc/modules/firmware.dep.${KERNVER}  | grep -v '^#' | grep ':' | grep -E "$fPATTERN" | cut -f 1 -d ':' | head -n 1`"
       if [ "$FIRMPKG" != "" ];then
        if [ -f /lib/modules/all-firmware/${FIRMPKG}.tar.gz ];then
         tar -z -x --strip=1 --directory=/ -f /lib/modules/all-firmware/${FIRMPKG}.tar.gz > /dev/null 2>&1
    @@ -30,10 +32,11 @@
          echo "$MODULE" >> /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}       <========= please remove ======
          cd /
          /pinstall.${FIRMPKG}.sh >/dev/null 2>&1
          rm -f /pinstall.${FIRMPKG}.sh >/dev/null 2>&1
         fi
    +    echo "$FIRMPKG" >> /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER} #120828
        fi
       fi
      fi
     }

The module name should never be entered into the firmware.dep.inst file. Only the "tarball"/firmpkg name.
Richard

Sorry about that oversight. Fixed.

gcmartin wrote:Seems that during the build process, the OLD FirstRUN utility has been cobbled into the distro.

For sertting system fields and variables, the newer FirstRUN you built couple months back is much more advanced than the one that is currently in the Beta3.

Below is an example of the current one that is in Precise 5269 and the prior one which is your updated version.

Here to help

Those two pictures look the same.

Beta3 has the latest QuickSetup.

The first of two "beta4" builds:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02974

Please don't use an earlier save-file from beta3, it will be incompatible due to the same kernel version number 3.2.28.

Testing non-pae beta 4 on my old thinkpad r51 (circa 2005), ATI RV200 Radeon Mobility 7500, glxgears gives poor reading, ~40fps, uses radeon_drv but with swrast.

Tried to install other drivers from PPM but each time results in a lockup at the PPM search. Hard poweroff was needed.

I think KMS is actually needed. It's supposed to support cards up to 10 yo. As I said, it works quite well on the same kit with an experimental Slacko build, about 10 times the performance from glxgears.

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Other than that, connection with wireless was easy and painless to a wpa2 protected router, intel pro/wireless 2200BG, used SNS.

After quicksetup setting en_AU and timezone to AEST and X restart I expected the bacon screen, it was a no show, no barks either. If I accept the defaults (no X restart) and then I do get 2 barks and the bacon screen.

Thanks

Still i cannot find 'Asia/Tokyo' in timezone selection, but found 'Japan'.

For a fix, the 'find' command need '-L' option:
/usr/sbin/quicksetup line 417 is to be

The first of two "beta4" builds:

In first build, difference between beta 3 and 4 is . . .
Beta 4 went straight to desktop am using it now.
For me that is quite a radical upgrade

BarryK wrote:Ok, done.

Thanks
Want to trim some useless fat?
/usr/share/locale is containing diffutils.mo util-linux-ng.mo and xsane.mo for 43 languages -> 6184k

I did a manual frugal install to the hard drive.

Precise Puppy, version 5.2.71 on Wed 29 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
oem: SiS
product: 6325 1.05.00

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: sis

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

Computer
Processor mobile AMD Duron(tm)
Memory 709MB (117MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 29 Aug 2012 09:53:41 AM EDT

OpenGL
Vendor VMware, Inc.
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
Version 3.0 Mesa 8.0.3
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
71 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.193 FPS
73 frames in 5.1 seconds = 14.416 FPS
71 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.121 FPS

Processor
Name mobile AMD Duron(tm)
Family, model, stepping 6, 7, 0 (AMD Duron (Morgan))
Vendor AuthenticAMD
Configuration
Cache Size 64kb
Frequency 850.13MHz
BogoMIPS 1700.10
Byte Order Little Endian

It's working well on this pc, videos play well in umplayer etc.

Manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.

Precise Puppy, version 5.2.71 on Wed 29 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV530 [Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: radeon

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1554MB (138MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 29 Aug 2012 10:10:48 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
# glxgears
216 frames in 5.0 seconds = 43.026 FPS
206 frames in 5.0 seconds = 41.054 FPS
214 frames in 5.0 seconds = 42.645 FPS

Google Earth will run on this pc but isn't usable.
I also have slackware 14.0 rc3 installed on this pc and it can run all
the games etc that require hardware acceleration, much higher fps with
glxgears.
The graphics card is an ati 1600 pro, which is a very good card but in
the legacy category.
EHCI Host Controller
Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter,my linksys rt73 usb wireless adapter connected
with sns and works fine.

That's it so far.

precise5271-nopae frugal
ibm thinkpad x30

boot to desktop with no precisesave file

black screen, no desktop when boot with precisesave

Bill

It's supposed to support cards up to 10 yo

It does.
Didn't find that problem.. Report in BK blog. Absolutely no issues with anything.

Fresh manual frugal install (non-pae) .......zero problems so far. All basics working and correct on initial boot.

# report-video
Precise Puppy, version 5.2.71 on Wed 29 Aug 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (190MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 29 Aug 2012 10:49:28 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.2.28 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Sun Aug 26 22:29:28 GMT-8 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

Does boot quicker on older hardware with the gz compression. Looks solid here.

All basic working on my IBM X60 as well,

Checked puppy-precise repo can't download the gimp-2.8.2 the only option is from local folder.

Full installs to 700m notebook and MSI netbook.
Runs very well on both.
As usual; slow or fast glxgears numbers are quite
meaningless in actual use.

Yep tested on 32 &64 bit, wired & wireless, ATI&nV - even works on SiS graphics as Bill (&me) discovered. It's pointless running this masterpiece on anything more recent than a couple of years old as there's no advantage.

Left click on the little red X of the desktop icon does NOT umount but open new rox

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edited
This was a first run without save file

I did a few tests:

hardinfo report precise beta 4:

OpenGL
Vendor VMware, Inc.
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
Version 3.0 Mesa 8.0.3
Direct Rendering Yes

hardinfo report slackware 14.0 rc3:

OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes

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Hardware acceleration works on this pc in slackware 14rc3
but not in precise beta 4
Hardware acceleration with this graphics card has worked in lucid puppy using
the xorghigh driver, I'm pretty sure it was this agp version of the
ati x1600 pro card, but I also have the pciE version of the ati x1600 pro

I found an old lupu disk on the shelf and booted it up on this pc, I
installed an Xorg_High-1.1-Lucid.pet that I have stored on a flash
drive.
Hardware acceleration is working, hardinfo report shows:

OpenGL
Vendor DRI R300 Project
Renderer Mesa DRI R300 (RV530 71C2) 20090101 AGP 4x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL
Version 1.5 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering Yes

I guess it's not important for most applications but google earth and
some games won't run without hardware acceleration working.

An updated version of the Xorg_High-1.1-Lucid.pet would be great for
ati and intel graphics users.

I volunteer 01micko for the job

Precise puppy version 5.2.72 (beta4). Same as 5.2.71, except PAE-enabled kernel and KMS-enabled Radeon.

Announcement here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02975