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4.2rc1 wirless
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 01:42
by cretsiah
Ok ppl's
Im using an open network
I am not real savvy in the command line nor am i that grg8 at debugging...
in regards to wifi
but here goes:
1) the wifi auto scanner appears to be locked in to 127.0.0.0 *
2) the iwconfig -a command comes up with no access point
3) it also comes up with no mac address.
4) attempting to put in to the wizard manually essid=default, channel=6 doesnt help.
5) autoconnect profile doesnt allow for OPEN network only WEP
* -it does not appear to,look for any other IP address what so ever
** - from what I can gather it is in either the autoconnect section of the wizard and or in the hardware ID section..
it may also be in a bodged module of the rt61 for me as it appears to show the right module just does not aquire a MAC address or hardware ID...
I really hope this helps..
a point of reference for me has been v4.0 as this works...
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 714#280714
this post has my read out for v4 and 4.2rc1 ....
Im hoping you can get this fixed really soon so I can use it to show others.....
Old Dogs - but puppys at heart
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 02:35
by growler
So we are not so much puppy's as old dogs learning new tricks - who said we couldn't!! - 46 next week!
http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/howto
"3.4 Server options
...
Hiawatha will drop root privileges after startup by switching to user nobody. You can tell Hiawatha to switch to another user via de ServerId option"
This implies that Hiawatha is running as nobody when no ServerId is specified. What happens when ServerId is removed from the httpd.conf and Hiawatha restarted? It serves - in Unnamed at least. But runs as 65534!
Is nobody made correctly?
I also noted WhoDo's idea for running as hiawatha as root.
I tried on a fresh frugal:
1. changeing /etc/hiawatha/httpd.conf line for ServerId=root
result:
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There was an error when attempting to start Hiawatha, this error message:
Syntax error in httpd.conf on line 8
also tried ServerId = root:root to the same result. Hiawatha is specifically prohibited from running as root.
2. I ditched the ServerId line althogether - and indeed hiawatha runs happily as nobody anyway.
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nobody 3841 1 0 15:27 ? 00:00:00 hiawatha
BUT .... attempting to run PPLOG or access
http://127.0.0.1/index.html
the error log in /var/log/hiawatha/error.log shows:
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Sat 07 Mar 2009 15:27:41 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/pup_pplog.pl|access denied via filesystem
The same snag ... permissions preventing hiawatha reading the files it is supposed to serve? What the...
In beta 1 when hiawatha was excluded at least I could install the .pet and get a running web-server. I can't even do that with RC1??
This old dog is stumped! Please someone throw me a bone
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 04:27
by brymway
FWIW-Wireless has always worked for me on all Puppy distros on my laptop, until this one. RC1 doesn't work and neither did the beta before it, I downloaded it and tried it.
But, using RC1 and plugging in a Belkin 803.11g usb wireless thingy, it DID work. So wireless does work with RC1, just not with the ipw2200 wireless thingy like I have.
Again fwiw: Using RC1:
onboard wireless ipw2200: wireless doesn't work
USB plug wireless Belkin 803.11g: wireless does work.
Frickin' Frackin' ....
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 04:51
by WhoDo
After hours upon hours of fiddling to synchronise 4 separate desktop icon themes for Puppy-4.2 (Deep Thought, Original, Stardust & JQ8FlatLite), I've discovered the reason why (if not the How) the menu icons get screwed up when you switch themes and don't get fixed when you switch back. It's the /usr/sbin/icon_switcher app itself.
There is something screwy going on in the code the way Barry has it working, but I'm not familiar enough with Bash to work it out. It copies icons from one theme over the top of the other on the way in, but doesn't copy the same icons back on the way back. Instead it "manufactures" copies of the x48 size icons to replace the x24 ones in the menu ... well some of the time! That's a hangover from Barry's original intention to use a single SVG file and have the script create the x24 and x48 sized icons required for the menus and desktop respectively. Since all icon themes are now PNG only, that functionality seems superfluous.
Anyone want to take a crack at this so the icons of each theme are simply copied over the ones in /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps each time there's a theme change? Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 06:38
by 01micko
After much banging of my head I finally figured out what is wrong with wireless for the rtl8187 driver.
Now, the r8187 driver loads by default with my netgear WG111V2 in puppy4.2. This is not compiled into the kernel in 4.1.2 but later added as a pet. It shows up in the Network wizard as RTL8187. Confused? I was. Did an lsmod and it shows up as r8187. Tried ndiswrapper, no go, but I try to avoid using it anyway.
I blacklisted the r8187 and went through the driver list and lo and behold there is the old rtl8187 driver. Now that one works! Just didn't think to look. Just don't know why the newer driver gets loaded for my hardware.
Anyway, that is another issue off the list WhoDo!
Cheers
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:13
by ttuuxxx
Hey whodo how time do I have, I went ice skating with the family today, I'm probably the only Canadian alive who can't skate, funny as hell, LOL
only fell once, first time on skates in about 15yrs. Almost don the icewm package I just need to find that fix that people were talking about.
Also I guess the latest version of Claws mail is out, but I don't know if I have enough time to compile that up for you or not, before the deadline?
ttuuxxx
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:23
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:Almost don the icewm package I just need to find that fix that people were talking about.
Also I guess the latest version of Claws mail is out, but I don't know if I have enough time to compile that up for you or not, before the deadline?
It is now 7:20pm AEDST and I would like to start uploading by 8:30pm - that will let me get all three mirrors uploaded before Midnight and I can sleep easy until tomorrow.
If you can't complete it by then, just let me know and I'll postpone the upload until tomorrow morning. I have everything else in place but I can always use the time to work on 0pkgs_db-4.20 for David McClamrock so he can finish RemaX in time for Final.
We are still sitting at 100.22Mb despite losing the CUPS docs and a full icon theme, not to mention a few other bibs and bobs here and there. That's tantalisingly close, but I still have no idea how big RemaX is going to be, so I'm walking a knife edge here. Any ideas for further cuts in size?
Cheers
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:26
by WhoDo
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:27
by 01micko
WhoDo wrote:
We are still sitting at 100.22Mb despite losing the CUPS docs and a full icon theme, not to mention a few other bibs and bobs here and there. That's tantalisingly close, but I still have no idea how big RemaX is going to be, so I'm walking a knife edge here. Any ideas for further cuts in size?
Cheers
Wallpapers?
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:38
by panzerpuppy
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:39
by WhoDo
01micko wrote:WhoDo wrote:
We are still sitting at 100.22Mb despite losing the CUPS docs and a full icon theme, not to mention a few other bibs and bobs here and there.
Wallpapers?
Don't really have any. There is the Deep Thought and Saphire ones from Zigbert, and a couple of the Look-at-me-in-under-50-bytes ones from the Puppy wallpaper thread. Other than that there is only the 40kb Aurora Australis (lip service to the HHGTTG and 42 thing). Can't see much room for squeezing in there, mate. I may have to pare down the number of games and perhaps even cut back on one of the icon themes, but we are talking chicken feed really. I need a couple of meg to feel comfortable for RemaX (unless pa's got a rabbit in his hat)!
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:43
by ttuuxxx
well maybe we'll just go with it and for the final, I'll find some extra bloat somewhere, always keep in mind that Flash is always a kill options, its usually always getting replaced anyways, I can't see why flash 9 & 10 can't just be a repo item, that would give you like 2.9MB compressed.
but I'm sure we can find 220kb, but I have around 150 items installed/compiled on 4.2, my root directory alone has 168 items and I just cleaned it out 3 days ago, So my system is pretty cluttered and I always start over fresh with each release.
just need to finish icewm, The new Claws can go in the next release.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 08:54
by 01micko
WhoDo wrote:01micko wrote:WhoDo wrote:
We are still sitting at 100.22Mb despite losing the CUPS docs and a full icon theme, not to mention a few other bibs and bobs here and there.
Wallpapers?
Don't really have any. There is the Deep Thought and Saphire ones from Zigbert, and a couple of the Look-at-me-in-under-50-bytes ones from the Puppy wallpaper thread. Other than that there is only the 40kb Aurora Australis (lip service to the HHGTTG and 42 thing). Can't see much room for squeezing in there, mate. I may have to pare down the number of games and perhaps even cut back on one of the icon themes, but we are talking chicken feed really. I need a couple of meg to feel comfortable for RemaX (unless pa's got a rabbit in his hat)!
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=120Take a look there, dump some of the ones you have and use these tiny dots the guys have been working on.... do want a .pet?
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 09:02
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo the tiny background images we've been working on are pretty good:) I made a couple also
oh ya,,I almost forgot
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The ICEWM Package Is Posted,
Go GO GO lolol
ttuuxxx
Ps this package I removed the show desktop names on the taskbar when switching, I tried to enable battery monitor, no idea if it will work, but doesn't mess anything up for the desktop users, added that patch for restarting issues on older pc's, change a couple of Icons, combine 3 seamonkey icons into one and boy it looks so much nicer in the menu now, the older seamonkey icon was really blurrrrry, oh ya you need to use this xdgmenu which is included
oh ya added a show the printer printing jobs and puppy notes, basically Geany, ecomoney talked me into that one, well he asked and I said sure, but it works nicely;) I had to change his code because we don't use dillo, but that was easy.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 09:08
by ttuuxxx
Oh ya whodo I've asked you for every release almost to change the puppy from dotpup to petget so we get rid of the shortcut icon on the image on the desktop, wonder if you'll get it this tie round??? hmmmmmmmmmm
lol
ttuuxxx
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 09:09
by WhoDo
01micko wrote:Take a look there, dump some of the ones you have and use these tiny dots the guys have been working on.... do want a .pet?
ttuuxxx wrote:WhoDo the tiny background images we've been working on are pretty good:) I made a couple also Smile
Guys, guys! Take another look at my post ... I already gottem!
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 09:10
by 01micko
Ok 10 wallpapers at 1.1k compressed.
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 09:13
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:Oh ya whodo I've asked you for every release almost to change the puppy from dotpup to petget so we get rid of the shortcut icon on the image on the desktop, wonder if you'll get it this tie round??? hmmmmmmmmmm
Oh, ha ha!
Are you sure you really looked at RC1? Try clean booting it and you might get a surprise. That shortcut arrow is gone! It will surely be gone for RC2 as well!
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 10:28
by `f00
@WhoDo
Yes - definitely there is/was a script that scales 48's down (or actually does math on the xy values if I recall correct) in conjunction with the icon switcher for icon themes -it must be a call to that script? .. anyhow the name comes up in /tmp/xerrslog if the script has difficulty. I think I forced it into revealing by making a full set of both the 48s and 24s in a custom icon theme and when the icon switcher was used it revealed as error mssgs in xerrslog with the name of that math script. Only saw it a few times and the name and/or path of it .. escapes me (and looking thru my notes .. not ref'd there, either). Zigbert would know more as this was one of those branch points when a hard separation was made for specific 24s for the first level of the mainmenu, rather than use the math reduction on 48s - the script may still be there as a remnant - although I haven't noticed its action recently. It used to drive me crazy when I used actual-sized 32s by renaming them to *48.png and then the 'made' *24.png were actually 16s and looked pretty bad on the mainmenu 1st level 'til I fixed them by hand (so it got to be a habit
not to use the icon switcher after they were set (and mostly I only used it to get the drive icons the way I wanted since they're kind of a special case of change-state icons like trash and perhaps connect and lock). The icon switcher seems to have a more profound effect than simply changing one theme set for another (interaction with .DirIcon changed-state special cases like pup_event, trash & etc .. actually that's what my own custom 'theme' set is, the 15 drive icons (5 types, 3 states each) .. the rest I simply change out in pixmaps as desired and leave it as finished rather than use the switcher. When I really gave up switching was when the themes became not truly swappable (different names, etc) .. and much like a browser skin that's missing some icons for buttons to new functions (or functions that get redefined or
) It can get crazy if default* items are named as specific apps and vice-versa - text48.png gets confused with the geany and leaf on some contexts, but that's minor.
Will see if I can find the reference for that 'scaler/maker-of-24s' that gets called by the icon switcher next time I'm in pup .. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, who needs all that mess on the desktop anyhow!
Only wallpaper I
really like for show is that one Zig's buddy Raymond Levang did 'way back when . . .
Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 10:52
by pa_mcclamrock
WhoDo wrote:I still have no idea how big RemaX is going to be [ . . . ]
About 26 KB compressed. Is it going to appear in at least one RC, so somebody besides you and me can see if it has any bugs?
Any ideas for further cuts in size?
Did you dump pplog and hiawatha yet?
