(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

I have now moved it onto Finlandia Puppy (TwoHeadedDog) and using JWM.
I'm more about functionality than style.

I still have credibility at work with this.
That's where I am playing with it, but that's just between you and me, okay?

I don't usually keep all the Puppy icons, but they seem to go with this background.

Having fun here too.

Diamond wrote:It seems that KDE is falling apart. First,shortcut icons don't work.. There is no chance for new shortcut to put to desktop...
Second,there is few errors that I get on startup

Yes I've discovered that about the shortcut icons as well, it is annoying, but it seems to be just how KDE4 is. I'm sure there's some widget available somewhere though that can remedy it.

Those errors, hmmm, I've never seen them before, how did you get them? Did you tweak any files or change any settings you think could have caused those errors? I'd like to try and reproduce them on my machine so I can figure how to solve it.

Master_wrong wrote:"Ah yeah, the permissions, hope that works out for you, that's where things got messy for me. K3B would install, but I couldn't actually get it to burn. "

you should run it from terminal and see what error messages there

Actually I did a bit more twiddling with K3B, looks like it's still dependent on HAL even though KDE4 has depreciated it, and K3B themselves said it was no longer dependent on HAL, so that would explain why the devices don't show up :\

Adagio wrote:I'm not starting with KDM.

If you wanted to you could use PupShutdown to shutdown instead. You can find it the menu and right click on it to make it a favorite for easy access. As long as you're not using kdm to log in Pupshutdown will work and the kdmrc tweak will not work. If you're using kdm to log in, then the kdmrc tweak will work and Pupshutdown will not.

@roadkill13 and Adagio

Great to hear you guys are having fun, I am too Thanks for all the feedback and support guys

Battleshooter

battleshooter wrote: Those errors, hmmm, I've never seen them before, how did you get them? Did you tweak any files or change any settings you think could have caused those errors? I'd like to try and reproduce them on my machine so I can figure how to solve it.

I don't know how to fix kde shortcut errors,it is very annoying.
No,i don't tweak anything I have just installed some apps and uninstalling,nothing that could ruin KDE. And that is just one error,there are some more errors,but I am so tired of using KDE sfs,lot of bugs are really dissapointing...

Sorry to hear it's been so disappointing for you. Please don't use it if it stresses you up so much, while I do appreciate you letting me know what's wrong with it so I can fix it, I don't want you to get white hairs over it

You've helped me though smooth out some issues by pointing them out and I do appreciate it

Battleshooter

battleshooter wrote:

Diamond wrote:It seems that KDE is falling apart. First,shortcut icons don't work.. There is no chance for new shortcut to put to desktop...
Second,there is few errors that I get on startup

Yes I've discovered that about the shortcut icons as well, it is annoying, but it seems to be just how KDE4 is. I'm sure there's some widget available somewhere though that can remedy it.

Are you sure it is just KDE4 ? It wont happened to me on other puppy kde4 distros. Allthough I don't use them so much... How you figure out that problem is KDE related ?

Hey Diamond,

Maybe I'm not understanding what your shortcut problem is. Could you explain in greater detail what you mean when you say the shortcut icons don't work? Do you mean you can't create them, or when you click on them they don't startup the application the shortcut points to? In either case, how are you creating the shortcut?

What were the other KDE4 puppy distros? The only one I know of is Tazoc's LighthousePup? I tested to see if making a shortcut on the desktop behaved the same way it did on this SFS, and it seemed to be the same. :\


Battleshooter

I have installed the 5.28 version of Puppy Lucid on my netbook. I applied the KDE4 sfs to this frugal installation with very good result so far. I am able to start the computer and boot into KDE4 via KDM and I am able to use KDE's shutdown features. I did this by following the instructions provided in this thread. I also symlinked contents of Rox Startup folder to /root/.kde/Autostart

Here is a screen shot.

battleshooter wrote:Hey Diamond,

Maybe I'm not understanding what your shortcut problem is. Could you explain in greater detail what you mean when you say the shortcut icons don't work? Do you mean you can't create them, or when you click on them they don't startup the application the shortcut points to? In either case, how are you creating the shortcut?
Battleshooter

Desktop shortcut don't work. When I try to add new shortcut,I cant.. I just have some error. Desktop shortcut turned to some rubbish...
I created shortcut by dragging some app to desktop and clicking "shortcut here"
When I say "other distros" I mean for example Lighthouse pup 64 bit.
Thank you for your patience.

roadkill13 wrote:I have installed the 5.28 version of Puppy Lucid on my netbook. I applied the KDE4 sfs to this frugal installation with very good result so far. I am able to start the computer and boot into KDE4 via KDM and I am able to use KDE's shutdown features. I did this by following the instructions provided in this thread. I also symlinked contents of Rox Startup folder to /root/.kde/Autostart

Here is a screen shot.

Wow, that looks really good roadkill13, how did you get the Chrome and PupControl shortcut icons on the desktop?

And symlinking the Startup folder, that is a brilliant idea, I'll add it to tips. Thank you

@Diamond

That's great, thank you for answering all my questions, I'm not on my home computer right now, but when I get home, I'll try making shortcuts the way you described, I didn't know that's how you make shortcuts in KDE4, I thought you just drag them, like in the normal Puppy, and "link here".

Thanks for your patience Diamond

Battleshooter

Wow, that looks really good roadkill13, how did you get the Chrome and PupCWow, that looks really good roadkill13, how did you get the Chrome and PupControl shortcut icons on the desktop?

A right click on any item in the KDE menu produces a popup menu. Sending a shortcut to the desktop is one of the three options. Another handy option is to send a shortcut to the panel. I chose the desktop for each of the pictured items.

roadkill13 wrote:A right click on any item in the KDE menu produces a popup menu. Sending a shortcut to the desktop is one of the three options. Another handy option is to send a shortcut to the panel. I chose the desktop for each of the pictured items.

Thanks roadkill13.

I haven't been able to test it yet, but Diamond, you might want to give it a go?

Edit: It's weird, for me the icons appear behind the desktop folder instead of actually in the desktop folder. To get them actually clickable in the desktop folder I had to drag and copy menu icons to the desktop folder.

Battleshooter

battleshooter wrote: I'm not on my home computer right now, but when I get home, I'll try making shortcuts the way you described, I didn't know that's how you make shortcuts in KDE4, I thought you just drag them, like in the normal Puppy, and "link here".

Thanks for your patience Diamond

Battleshooter

Actually that is the way of making shortcuts,for me that is the same "link here" or "shortcut here"

Diamond wrote: Actually that is the way of making shortcuts,for me that is the same "link here" or "shortcut here"

Hmm, well I found that linking folders worked fine, but like you said, applications didn't work. Looks like shortcuts to applications need to be dragged from the menu. Have you tried roadkill's method yet Diamond?

Edit: Well I've discovered something interesting, dragging items to the desktop, not the desktop folder actually creates shortcut icons that work. Hmm so deceptively simple...

Battleshooter

Hello!! I tried to use the sfs but when i switch to kde i get this error:

/usr/bin/kde4-config: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5: undefined symbol: qt_locale_initialized
kstartupconfig4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5: undefined symbol: qt_locale_initialized
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion

Any idea?

Sounds strange, are you using Lupu 528 and did you have a previous version of Qt installed?

I have Lupu 528 with instant update 002...

I don't have the instant update installed. I will try the instant update and see if I get the same error.

Ok! Thank you!!

I couldn't get the error. I used the non multimedia update, which one were you using? Also, do you have any Qt programs installed?

I'm using the multimedia update and i have keepassx application with qt. I don't know what's the problem... I tried on a clean installation and it was just fine...