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It also does not do a true conversion of Word dox (i.e. spacing issues with fonts, etc.). It's a nice little product that I recommend on tablets. I still prefer ABI Word (must be 2.8.6) for Puppy (light and does the job).

makropo wrote:As a matter of interest, Kingsoft Writer shows Thai text formatted in a way which is very difficult to read. The software seems to break up clusters of letters randomly. Until this is fixed, it won't make much headway in this country. I tried both the full sfs and musher0's version with only western fonts and got the same result with both. I wonder if this happens with other non-western and non-Chinese texts.

On this subject of characters, I'll add that KingSoft does not allow typing French accented
characters.

To correct my previous post, after serious consideration about ABI Word, I find it has too many flaws for anything but light editing. See my other posts in the forum about the Delete Button issue. It's a major flaw! Kingsoft's not the one for serious everyday use, either.

Thank you very much for
Western Kingsoft O. It is great!
Much better than MS Office.


But it is impossible to insert
number of pages.
Can you resolve this problem?

Thanks in advance!
Greetings.

Tried out Kingsoft Office, ui looks great, but it has many quirks ... it's English and Chinese only - locales, dictionaries and supported standards. There are problems with regional standards, e.g. spreadsheets cannot be used in Europe, because it's hardcoded to use dot instead of comma for decimal separator. It also changes Windows regional settings at every launch of any Kingsoft Office app, making big problems for other apps... just to name a few ... and its interoperability with Microsoft Office is unsatisfactory (especially when it comes to larger xml files).

My preference amongst all free office suites is still SoftMaker FreeOffice (freeoffice.com) - compared to Kingsoft Office, ui looks unspectacular, but it is effective and comfortable. No issues, no quirks and oddities, it works fast and reliable. And, above all, it provides the best import and export filters for Microsoft Office formats.

Tombombadil wrote:My preference amongst all free office suites is still SoftMaker FreeOffice (freeoffice.com) - compared to Kingsoft Office, ui looks unspectacular, but it is effective and comfortable. No issues, no quirks and oddities, it works fast and reliable. And, above all, it provides the best import and export filters for Microsoft Office formats.

Softmaker free office had an issue with copy/paste of images on my end - e.g. if you copy a piece of webpage containing an image only text would be pasted into their text editor application.

Kingsoft office still has some bugs, and some functionality, e.g. charts in Excel, is still not there, but it works acceptably quick and i had no issues of compatibility with MS Office, except for the charts.

Bthw, a newer Patch4 to the KSO is available on their website, hope another one will be coming soon - seems they issue patches once in 3-4 months.

Just letting everyone know that the latest free version of KIngsoft/WPS Office supports saving in MS Word Document .docx format.

I have made an sfs file of the subject software and am using it on Tahr 6.0.3 without issue so far. If anyone is interested in obtaining it just send a PM. (97 MB)

Kingsoft Office now called WPS Office (Write-Presentations-Spreadsheets)

This is an SFS file of WPS Office for Linux Alpha19 Patch1 dated 2015-08-19 using wps-office_9.1.0.4975~a19p1_i386.deb as source.
The default language is english. This is the 32bit version.

See---> THIS THREAD for current versions

Official site --> http://www.wps.com

Additional information.
Chinese templates removed (saved 7MB)
Removed the environmental variable %f when launching programs.
Copied appropriate icons to /usr/share/pixmaps/ for menu icons.
Installed 5 missing ttf fonts due to error on initial run of program. Now starts with no errors.

As mcewanw-William suggested (and I forgot) you can copy the microsoft truetype core fonts to the directory /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/
Get them here-->http://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts/files/

WPS Office for Linux Alpha19 Patch1 [2015-08-19]
http://wps-community.org/download.html

Spellchack Dictionary for WPS Office - multiple (20) languages
http://wps-community.org/download/dicts

WPS community
http://wps-community.org/

Runs fine in Puppy Precise 5.7.1
Not for version 4.xx puppies.

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EDIT: Aah, but I've just read that it puts watermark on printed docs after 30 days? I don't know if that is the case ... but if only on printed docs watermark, could still be useful. Also, I can't see that issue mentioned for this version - maybe they removed that limitation?
EDIT2: Well, I changed the date to over a month from now on my system with: And checked WPS print preview and certainly no watermark there, and also no watermark after export to pdf... (I don't have actual printing set up on my system) so only missing function may be VBA macro support?
EDIT3: I installed cups-pdf to substitute for my not having a printer... and printed and still no watermark. Perhaps watermark only on windows version of the software! :-) This looks like a very good, very fast loading, office suite in that case.

Hi,

I have also installed wps onto my MintPup installation. I expect your sfs package could be loaded onto MintPup, but since I wanted a permanent install I just installed the deb package itself from:

http://wps-community.org/downloads

Note that both a 32bit and 64bit version is available.
Would probably work fine in DebianDog also.

After downloading the deb, installation I completed the installation by entering the following commands into a terminal (at directory I stored the wps deb file in):
The last line of the three above was required to complete the installation (to do with the startup menu I think).

Just for completion, I also copied some MS ttf fonts (aerial, calibri, courier new, georgia, palantino, symbol, tahoma, times new roman, verdana, webdings, wingding) into MintPup directory /usr/share/fonts/msfonts. I could have used to get the fonts from Mint/Ubuntu repository, but that has python 2.7 dependency, which I didn't want, and I only wanted a few fonts. I therefore simply just copied the fonts over from my MS Win7 windows/fonts directory as an alternative method...

Very nice looking office suite (Writer, Spreadsheet, and Presentation) actually and fast too. Gives choice of MS office ribbon type user interface menu or traditional older-style top menu. Works well with docx (but doesn't handle open office odf formats, though I don't use these anyway - apparently can export to odf, and to pdf of course). I haven't checked if the free download has any major limitations otherwise, but seems fine for my needs anyway.

EDIT4: No thesaurus in wps, but worth installing great thesaurus artha for that anyway (like windows wordweb). In DebianDog or Mintpup use:
EDIT5: For users of Puppy there is the same version (currently) of artha available in Carolina repositories (needs the wordnet dotpet to complete it), which may or may not work in other Puppies:

http://smokey01.com/carolina/pet_packag ... -1.0.3.pet

http://smokey01.com/carolina/pet_packag ... et-3.0.pet

William

The wps spreadsheet program still doesn't seem to support Charts/Graphs, unless I am just missing the menu entry?

Still a nice office suite otherwise though.

William

The wps spreadsheet program still doesn't seem to support Charts/Graphs, unless I am just missing the menu entry?

Looks like we will have to wait for that, according to this info from their forum.
http://wps-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=153

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Though they do appear to have Charts in various previous Kingston Office for windows products. Good wordprocessor though.

EDIT: Have now tested perdido's sfs of wps office suite in DebianDog Squeeze and in MintPup and it seems to work fine in both. Kingsoft packages wps in /opt/kingsoft/wps-office along with all the required Qt libs. It is pretty much a standalone package therefore and I thus believe perdido's sfs of that is quite safe to use in DebianDog and MintPup since unlikely to mess up Debian dpkg database IMO. You load the sfs in DD or MintPup by right-click on it in xfe filemanager and select "Load sfs" (or activate sfs in Rox).

Note that Kingsoft appear to use their own specially compiled Qt lib components so wps won't work if cut down to use different shared Qt libs (I tried).

William

EDIT: @perdido: I've notified DD/MintPup development team that your sfs worked fine on these systems in my tests:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 349#862349

EDIT3: I installed cups-pdf to substitute for my not having a printer... and printed and still no watermark. Perhaps watermark only on windows version of the software!: -) This looks like a very good, very fast loading, office suite in that case.

Hi William, thanks for testing the SFS, your feedback was appreciated. Good to hear no problems! I think they have a nice product.

From what I have read online and verified by adjusting the date on my computer, the linux version is not affected by the watermark issue.


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Suite offices : OOo, Libre Office, sofoffice, Kingsoftoffice :
My puppy cannot fully run in RAM with these (professional ?) suites, so i Use their Windows version when i need them (I.E. ... never)

Libre works very easy and nice without freezing on Barry's full USB Quirky installs. Not sure about the others. Just have a big USB drive. I use 32 GB and 64 GB usb's. Just a little slow to load up the first time.

Kingsoft and Softoffice are very small compared to the Libreoffice/Java installs. Even with smaller Puppies, using 2Gb RAM is a good thing these days.

There is no perfect office suite in linux, the most functional office suite is Libreoffice but it requires JRE (jave runtime environment) that makes it quite large and cpu intensive on my machine. The developers have been working to eliminate the JRE requirement, hopefully they do that. System requirements https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/sy ... uirements/

Softmaker is ok, does not require JRE but lacks some functionality compared to Libreoffice, it is also cpu intensive on my machine.

The WPS (kingsoft) suite does not require JRE and is less cpu intensive(runs much smoother on my machine) and is smaller than Libreoffice or Softmaker. I think it has a better user interface. The problems with WPS is that it does not support the Opendocument format (Liberoffice and Softmaker do).

Edit#1: The following chart came from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... ice_suites , the web page includes this chart with clickable links to additional information about the suites

Edit#2: Charts/Graphs now supported in WPS Presentations for Linux

Edit#3: Removed chart as it is now out of date, you can still follow the link to the wiki to view.

A very nice list, above. One item worth noting is that Libre (and perhaps Open Office) seem to have the best compatibility if you are cross converting with MS docs.

There were versions of Libre without JRE available in the software section of this board but I'm not sure about the new ones.

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