Tried 32bit version and got kernel panic.(2.4gb version)
Using 64bit version does work.
It does find my scsi drives, but thinks they are usb flash drives.
They are usable once booted, though.
Also, at shutdown, I cannot make a save file.
On the shutdown dialog, the location it is saving to is blank.
I have a feeling it is trying to save to the dvd.
EmSeeV2.3-Cafe-Edition.iso Two Sugars 27/1/15!
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@Jasper
I think you should remaster it and share it. I am sure others, not just me, would like to try it out!
@Sylvander
I replicated that problem. But start up >Menu>Utility>SFS-Unattended-Remaster
Choose option 7 ... to create a savefile. Or in terminal type shutdownconfig, let's you create a save file too, without shutting down.
I have remastered again with the third possible compression option ' -comp xz' @1.8gb
much more responsive. Also updated/added some small apps, three of my own.
1) Setup-MultiPins - PuppyPins for every res!
2) Autores - Change puppypins per resolution
3) Show/Hide-icons - improved to keep the wallpape/per puppyin/mutlipin.
4) Stemsees-remastering-suite-v4.8
5) Frugalinstaller
6) MultiPuP CD/DVD creator
7) Screen Magnifier - on iconified desktop or on wine c_drive
Available tomorrow!
I think you should remaster it and share it. I am sure others, not just me, would like to try it out!
@Sylvander
I replicated that problem. But start up >Menu>Utility>SFS-Unattended-Remaster
Choose option 7 ... to create a savefile. Or in terminal type shutdownconfig, let's you create a save file too, without shutting down.
I have remastered again with the third possible compression option ' -comp xz' @1.8gb
much more responsive. Also updated/added some small apps, three of my own.
1) Setup-MultiPins - PuppyPins for every res!
2) Autores - Change puppypins per resolution
3) Show/Hide-icons - improved to keep the wallpape/per puppyin/mutlipin.
4) Stemsees-remastering-suite-v4.8
5) Frugalinstaller
6) MultiPuP CD/DVD creator
7) Screen Magnifier - on iconified desktop or on wine c_drive
Available tomorrow!
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@nic007
EDIT: This is based on DpupWheezy which I built using woof-CE and I released it to the community as a standard puppy without my customisations nor devx built in.
So I can say that I already did what you asked a while ago.
See here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=93957
That has been mentioned before. At the moment there is an internet cafe which uses my distro off of a live dvd. When a pc is free they walk around with one dvd and boot the pc off of it then remove then dvd, and go to another one as one person finishes their session. Can you see that the normal way of packaging apps separately would not be as convenient. Those pcs need no hard drive!
Secondly loading and unloading sfs files, is good for those rarely used apps! But the apps you use frequently?
Thirdly almost every other puppy distro is the way you suggest, my distro is different for the right reasons.
Fourthly it is the way I like it!!
Fifthly ... I challenge you to build such a distro, so that I too may offer positive criticism to you.[/url]
EDIT: This is based on DpupWheezy which I built using woof-CE and I released it to the community as a standard puppy without my customisations nor devx built in.
So I can say that I already did what you asked a while ago.
See here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=93957
That has been mentioned before. At the moment there is an internet cafe which uses my distro off of a live dvd. When a pc is free they walk around with one dvd and boot the pc off of it then remove then dvd, and go to another one as one person finishes their session. Can you see that the normal way of packaging apps separately would not be as convenient. Those pcs need no hard drive!
Secondly loading and unloading sfs files, is good for those rarely used apps! But the apps you use frequently?
Thirdly almost every other puppy distro is the way you suggest, my distro is different for the right reasons.
Fourthly it is the way I like it!!
Fifthly ... I challenge you to build such a distro, so that I too may offer positive criticism to you.[/url]
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Just for info
I use scan over wifi to my canon mg3200 - I com[iled and included the latest xsane backend which works a treat with improved interface features. And print over wifi aswell.
And for android devs adb is included. In fact I may have included the entire android sdk ... There are so many hidden features and apps, some really obscure and specialist stuff that I added but didn't keep a record of, and since have forgotten! So just try first before installing it may already be there without a menu entry!!
That is one of my many failings! There is much more here than is apparent. "He who seeks shall find. He who doesn't seek shall be none the wiser!"
I use scan over wifi to my canon mg3200 - I com[iled and included the latest xsane backend which works a treat with improved interface features. And print over wifi aswell.
And for android devs adb is included. In fact I may have included the entire android sdk ... There are so many hidden features and apps, some really obscure and specialist stuff that I added but didn't keep a record of, and since have forgotten! So just try first before installing it may already be there without a menu entry!!
That is one of my many failings! There is much more here than is apparent. "He who seeks shall find. He who doesn't seek shall be none the wiser!"
I see your dpupwheezy or whatever is also over 405MB so no thanks for me. I'm quite happy wlth my own puplet called nicOS which is based on Puppy 4.12, is only 100MB and includes java and wine. Each to his own I suppose, no need to get all up in arms.stemsee wrote:@nic007
EDIT: This is based on DpupWheezy which I built using woof-CE and I released it to the community as a standard puppy without my customisations nor devx built in.
So I can say that I already did what you asked a while ago.
See here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=93957
That has been mentioned before. At the moment there is an internet cafe which uses my distro off of a live dvd. When a pc is free they walk around with one dvd and boot the pc off of it then remove then dvd, and go to another one as one person finishes their session. Can you see that the normal way of packaging apps separately would not be as convenient. Those pcs need no hard drive!
Secondly loading and unloading sfs files, is good for those rarely used apps! But the apps you use frequently?
Thirdly almost every other puppy distro is the way you suggest, my distro is different for the right reasons.
Fourthly it is the way I like it!!
Fifthly ... I challenge you to build such a distro, so that I too may offer positive criticism to you.[/url]
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Fair enough!
There was a previous Dpup Wheezy I made at under 100mb too! But without wine and java, so that is impressive @nic007. Where can I download nicOS?
Screenshot for the scanning over wifi and other apps! Screen Magnifier, MultiPup, Sane, SFS-Unattended-Remaster Menu.
There was a previous Dpup Wheezy I made at under 100mb too! But without wine and java, so that is impressive @nic007. Where can I download nicOS?
Screenshot for the scanning over wifi and other apps! Screen Magnifier, MultiPup, Sane, SFS-Unattended-Remaster Menu.
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2 items in this post that I hope is helpful to the community.
First
One other member, @Pemasu, was 'EXPRESSLY" open with his distro offerings to Puppyland. He expressed (in my words) that his distro was "his". He always was helpful but, he did write in his offerings that it was intended for himself and his needs. Many still use and carry-on his works, today with all the merits that is found there. At the time of his presence on the forum, his distros did NOT match the size of some PUPs of the time.
We must understand that @StemSee is offering a distro which, too, provides some vision which is NOT traditional, too. The PC arena has changed so significantly, that this offering DOES HAVE A LOT OF MERIT.
For those who are appalled at its size, would you allow him the courtesy to present this option for evaluation.
Already some of the feedback from traditionalists have resulted in improvements in this, thus far.
Second
Another member did present a distro too, Lighthouse Mariner by @TaZoC, where in his approach, he presented a method of SFS stacking that was an element of beauty as it too departed from PUP sizes and ,yet, provided some PUPPY architectural extensions. Some/much of his work was so far ahead of the past PUP distros, that many developers are still scratching their heads.
Those who develop and prefer SFSs would be overwhelmed (I think) in review of his Mariner edition with its hidden gems. But, what made @TaZoC was the wealth of information he presented to help understand the architecture of some of his internals in the distro. His explanation for HIS SFS implementation is found here. So far, not one developer has achieved this level of parity, but, collectively this community has been instrumental in the maturity that PUPPY Linux has achieve thus far with all of its innovations.
BTW: @TaZoC has posted about the current state of his health, here (see News item #1).
Those who can help in his Puppy forum's thread, would be appreciated. I think it would take a trio of members to replicate his distro with today's modern versions and builder tools that have come into play since his work, from almost 18months ago. Both he and @01Micko produced 64bit Puppy-Slackware based versions in about the same time frame.
Summary
Lots of good ideas as well as system resolutions are forthcoming in this thread.
@StemSee
If EmSee contains "dnsmasq", this distro is only one script away from having a menu item which the Live disc on one PC can "serve" boot image(s) to any/all PCs in the Internet Cafe (or a home or a school or a Library or ...) This is built-in, for example, in the base of Lighthouse64.
Here to help
First
One other member, @Pemasu, was 'EXPRESSLY" open with his distro offerings to Puppyland. He expressed (in my words) that his distro was "his". He always was helpful but, he did write in his offerings that it was intended for himself and his needs. Many still use and carry-on his works, today with all the merits that is found there. At the time of his presence on the forum, his distros did NOT match the size of some PUPs of the time.
We must understand that @StemSee is offering a distro which, too, provides some vision which is NOT traditional, too. The PC arena has changed so significantly, that this offering DOES HAVE A LOT OF MERIT.
For those who are appalled at its size, would you allow him the courtesy to present this option for evaluation.
Already some of the feedback from traditionalists have resulted in improvements in this, thus far.
Second
Another member did present a distro too, Lighthouse Mariner by @TaZoC, where in his approach, he presented a method of SFS stacking that was an element of beauty as it too departed from PUP sizes and ,yet, provided some PUPPY architectural extensions. Some/much of his work was so far ahead of the past PUP distros, that many developers are still scratching their heads.
Those who develop and prefer SFSs would be overwhelmed (I think) in review of his Mariner edition with its hidden gems. But, what made @TaZoC was the wealth of information he presented to help understand the architecture of some of his internals in the distro. His explanation for HIS SFS implementation is found here. So far, not one developer has achieved this level of parity, but, collectively this community has been instrumental in the maturity that PUPPY Linux has achieve thus far with all of its innovations.
BTW: @TaZoC has posted about the current state of his health, here (see News item #1).
Those who can help in his Puppy forum's thread, would be appreciated. I think it would take a trio of members to replicate his distro with today's modern versions and builder tools that have come into play since his work, from almost 18months ago. Both he and @01Micko produced 64bit Puppy-Slackware based versions in about the same time frame.
Summary
Lots of good ideas as well as system resolutions are forthcoming in this thread.
@StemSee
If EmSee contains "dnsmasq", this distro is only one script away from having a menu item which the Live disc on one PC can "serve" boot image(s) to any/all PCs in the Internet Cafe (or a home or a school or a Library or ...) This is built-in, for example, in the base of Lighthouse64.
Here to help
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@gcmartin
Thanks for your perspective, with a very balanced and well considered take on things, more so than previously.
I have a knack of upsetting people who to me seem to have the solution in their own hands but lack application or the intelligence to realize that fact. I have little patience for those who rest on their laurels and do not make a thorough investigation of the faults I indicate in their works - pride-ego-status- such things preventing them from accepting my work! No matter, all will be resolved eventually, perche tutto e a posto e Dio datto!!
stemsee
Thanks for your perspective, with a very balanced and well considered take on things, more so than previously.
I have a knack of upsetting people who to me seem to have the solution in their own hands but lack application or the intelligence to realize that fact. I have little patience for those who rest on their laurels and do not make a thorough investigation of the faults I indicate in their works - pride-ego-status- such things preventing them from accepting my work! No matter, all will be resolved eventually, perche tutto e a posto e Dio datto!!
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I am remastering one more version.
Removed synaptic package manager as tzdata problems make it unusable for anything except downloading packages only.
Updated gdrive-get by fredx181, now uses elinks and is much faster and also filters for .pet .iso .sfs etc. Stays open during downloads for additional selections.
QT Library @ 4.8.2
BibleTime added.
New multi-puppy-pins by stemsee
New show/hide-icons by stemsee
New set puppy-pin by screen res, with on off and xmessage confirmation pop-up.
Dnsmasq added, slacko.pet package. Untested by me. I was going to compile the latest version but when I saw the number of configure options, well - I am not going to go through all of that guessing the right one!
Added pupsaveconfig again to resolve dvd save issues. Let's hope it works!
@Shinobar does it uninstall and leave the system shutdown working?? Does it back up and restore rc.shutdown and /usr/sbin/shutdownconfig ?? Do you have any plans to make it handlle pupsave names with more than one dot '.' ?
stemsee
Removed synaptic package manager as tzdata problems make it unusable for anything except downloading packages only.
Updated gdrive-get by fredx181, now uses elinks and is much faster and also filters for .pet .iso .sfs etc. Stays open during downloads for additional selections.
QT Library @ 4.8.2
BibleTime added.
New multi-puppy-pins by stemsee
New show/hide-icons by stemsee
New set puppy-pin by screen res, with on off and xmessage confirmation pop-up.
Dnsmasq added, slacko.pet package. Untested by me. I was going to compile the latest version but when I saw the number of configure options, well - I am not going to go through all of that guessing the right one!
Added pupsaveconfig again to resolve dvd save issues. Let's hope it works!
@Shinobar does it uninstall and leave the system shutdown working?? Does it back up and restore rc.shutdown and /usr/sbin/shutdownconfig ?? Do you have any plans to make it handlle pupsave names with more than one dot '.' ?
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Jasper
Since you have worked hard on this distro I have tried your new 1.9 GB version. This is an early report after a minimal test - hopefully there will be some detailed reviews.
Personally, I like the name "cafe-edition" and the updated boot-splash-screen, but mostly I appreciate it being hugely faster than the earlier 1.6 GB edition so that my browser speed is now acceptable.
When your 2.1 GB edition wouldn't load on my hardware a forum acquaintance come friend suggested I might try using a swap file.
If I remaster this cafe-edition with gz compression - do you think it might actually work with a swap file and also improve usage speeds?
I did not find gcmartin's last post to be even slightly helpful. Perhaps he will explain all your innovations in brief detail (ignoring any superfluous historical background). This would be preferable to your blowing your own trumpet.
My regards
PS The show/hide icons tray button does not work perfectly (or consistently) with my drive icons and the pop-up window shown as enlarged in the screen shot seems a literal waste of time even if there were any choice.
Personally, I like the name "cafe-edition" and the updated boot-splash-screen, but mostly I appreciate it being hugely faster than the earlier 1.6 GB edition so that my browser speed is now acceptable.
When your 2.1 GB edition wouldn't load on my hardware a forum acquaintance come friend suggested I might try using a swap file.
If I remaster this cafe-edition with gz compression - do you think it might actually work with a swap file and also improve usage speeds?
I did not find gcmartin's last post to be even slightly helpful. Perhaps he will explain all your innovations in brief detail (ignoring any superfluous historical background). This would be preferable to your blowing your own trumpet.
My regards
PS The show/hide icons tray button does not work perfectly (or consistently) with my drive icons and the pop-up window shown as enlarged in the screen shot seems a literal waste of time even if there were any choice.
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@jasper
the popup is really precautionary in case one of the flags gets deleted then the user would know what they should be seeing and would know which puppy pin to work on I will provide a terminal command to disable the popups!!
Yes the swap file named puppy.swp should get picked up. Gz recompression is definetely overall a faster experience
Show hide drive icons? In what way is it not consistent. Drive icons are controlled by a daemon my show/hide-icons script does not disable that function. "Menu>Desktop>Desktop Drive Icons manager" gives some control over that!
Cafe-Edition is a cool title but I should provide appropriate icon and wallpaper sets to go with it!
the popup is really precautionary in case one of the flags gets deleted then the user would know what they should be seeing and would know which puppy pin to work on I will provide a terminal command to disable the popups!!
Yes the swap file named puppy.swp should get picked up. Gz recompression is definetely overall a faster experience
Show hide drive icons? In what way is it not consistent. Drive icons are controlled by a daemon my show/hide-icons script does not disable that function. "Menu>Desktop>Desktop Drive Icons manager" gives some control over that!
Cafe-Edition is a cool title but I should provide appropriate icon and wallpaper sets to go with it!
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Re screen shot:
(1) Every time I toggle the show.hide desktop icons the rightmost drive icon disappears until they are all gone. Not too important since the drive icons fail to work entirely as expected and, in any case, I have alternative options.
(2) Perhaps because my screen does not load quite perfectly (see edit below) - as someone else reported my desktop icons (originally above the clock) were double and triple layered. So, as well as deleting the game icons and a few minor changes, I rearranged them.
(3) I have, in particular. added SeaMonkey, Parcellite and PupMenu.
My regards
Edit; the PupSnap screen shot shows the time in full - in reality only the tens of seconds show - the units are truncated.
(1) Every time I toggle the show.hide desktop icons the rightmost drive icon disappears until they are all gone. Not too important since the drive icons fail to work entirely as expected and, in any case, I have alternative options.
(2) Perhaps because my screen does not load quite perfectly (see edit below) - as someone else reported my desktop icons (originally above the clock) were double and triple layered. So, as well as deleting the game icons and a few minor changes, I rearranged them.
(3) I have, in particular. added SeaMonkey, Parcellite and PupMenu.
My regards
Edit; the PupSnap screen shot shows the time in full - in reality only the tens of seconds show - the units are truncated.
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What is your screen resolution? Graphics driver?
copy and paste into lxterminal to stop popups
copy and paste into lxterminal to stop popups
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grep --invert-match 'xmessage' ~/my-applications/bin/nicons >> ~/my-applications/bin/nicons0; mv ~/my-applications/bin/nicons0 ~/my-applications/bin/nicons; chmod 755 ~/my-applications/bin/nicons-
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Edit 2/12/2014
EmSeeV2.3-Cafe-Edition (64bit kernel only) basic xz compression. @ 1.84gb, show/hide-icons-v1.2 = now with choose/add//remove icons. Multi-pins, set-by res, StemseeS-Remastering-Suite = added simultaneous savefiles!
links in first post.
Edit 2/12/2014
EmSeeV2.3-Cafe-Edition (64bit kernel only) basic xz compression. @ 1.84gb, show/hide-icons-v1.2 = now with choose/add//remove icons. Multi-pins, set-by res, StemseeS-Remastering-Suite = added simultaneous savefiles!
links in first post.
Last edited by stemsee on Tue 02 Dec 2014, 22:44, edited 1 time in total.
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Because of this new feature to add remove icons merely by typing part of the name in the terminal after calling 'nicons choose' I see that an ultra iconified desktop is deisrable from which to select any icons to add to the new puppypin. That is until I have implemented adding icons from /usr/local/apps and /usr/share/applications and any of the /bin /sbin directories (path) using generic icons from pixmaps/icons etc.
EDIT: How much do we need to do for the user??
EDIT: How much do we need to do for the user??
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I think it will be enough for adding icons merely by having rox open 'applications' dir and '/usr/local/apps' dir and let them drag icons to the desktop. After that 'nicons remove' (already working) will be the easiest way to remove multiple icons with one click (Enter).
Having icons grid and cluster in circles is my next goal, unless I find an app that already does it.
Having icons grid and cluster in circles is my next goal, unless I find an app that already does it.
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