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Posted: **Tue 31 Aug 2010, 20:58**

playdayz wrote:
Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install.
You know, we have had a report that synaptics only worked when automatically configured not when configured with CCE. As far as I am concerned it is all one system and we have two methods of configuring--if one does not work correctly then there is a chance the other will. It sounds like you are able to configure your hardware and use Lucid Puppy. Good deal.

Agreed. And it works the best yet. I actually deleted my 'fall back' Mint today. Never use it now

Posted: **Tue 31 Aug 2010, 20:58**

I use always CCE. Synaptics and flsynclient has worked flawlessly so far ad luci220.

Posted: **Tue 31 Aug 2010, 21:14**

DaveS wrote:
shinobar wrote:
DaveS wrote: Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install..
The Synaptics touchpad works from the first desktop, but the flsynclient fails.
I made a wrapper script which can be a solution.
Try this.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 668#444668
OK... fresh frugal install, no save file. Booted to desktop. Installed wrapper script. Attempted flsynclient.... Synaptics found, must restart X to use it. Attempted restart X, fail. Ran Xorg wizard... fail.
Hmmm....
Reboot, use classic configuration procedure, all fine.

Sorry, it was not tested on Lupu. Try the revised if you still have an interest.

EDIT: 1 Oct 2010
synclient-wrapper-20100901.pet had a typo and loose settings after restart X.
/root/Startup/load-touchpad-settings.sh at line 2

Code: Select all

[ -s "$HOME/.flsynclient" ] || exit

Correct:

Code: Select all

[ -s "$HOME/.flSynclient" ] || exit

Fixed in synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet.

Posted: **Tue 31 Aug 2010, 21:57**

Time to go to sleep. Streaming wirelessly using pulseaudio and stream2ip is possible. Not even sure how I got python working. What I am sure is...I dont really know how I did it anymore. But here it is.

Streaming wirelessly to Apple Airport Express using pulseaudio and stream2ip. Stream2ip informs that it does not find device but I can hear right now that it find it musically.

Posted: **Tue 31 Aug 2010, 22:08**

There is a kind of interesting design approach in Lupu that is somewhat unique. It is illustrated in the first run configuration that we were just talking about. There really are two distinct methods involved. The "auto config" is courtesy of the current Xorg (which has had auto config since 7.3). The other method is the one Barry designed and refined. Both are good methods, and because we have them both available we have the chance to solve problems that neither would solve alone. That gives a robustness, when there is a secondary method available.

We have a similar situation with the mediaplayer: if gnome-mplayer is doing something wrong, then try Smplayer, and then VLC. For audio, gnome-mplayer is backed up by Pmusic, with Audacious in the PPM. And a final instance is with printing pdf's. If you choose Print in Abiword you will see "Cups-Pdf" and "pdf_writer." Each works in some circumstances and by including them both we are able to cover more circumstances that either alone. "pdf_writer" works best with Abiword and "Cups-Pdf" works best with epdfview.

Would it be better to have one perfect application for every task? Yes. I guess. The reason we can afford to do it this way is that Puppy uses lean applications--so we can back up one lean application with another, and still not gain too much weight. The goal with Lucid puppy is something like it bends but it doesn't break. Even if it takes a little fiddling people will be able to do what it is they want to do and use Lucid Puppy in a variety of ways. For instance, one of my particular needs--playing multiple sound cards--I have had to go all the way to Audacious, but it does just what I need and I am using Lucid puppy in the way I want to use it..

(Just a little rambling theory for fun)
.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 01:08**

The frugal install of Luci 222 on the P3 is still working fine.......nothing bad to report........

Installed a number of pets and no problems yet.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 01:28**

Shinobars' synclient-wrapper worked on Inspiron 700m.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 02:28**

Booted 222 live cd with pfix=ram on Eeepc 701
Used gparted to create a primary ext3 partition on 8gb flash drive and set boot flag.
Used universal installer to install 222 to the flash drive and exited 222.
Moved flash drive to Acer Revo Nettop booted from the flash drive.
222 booted directly to the desktop at correct resolution and detected wireless keyboard and mouse, the wired network was also connected.
The Lupu Recommends box was empty ( nvidia ion not there)
Downloaded latest nvidia driver with quickpet and did the install thing (black bar at top of screen).
# glxgears
8086 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1617.200 FPS
9394 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1878.800 FPS
10161 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2032.200 FPS
10145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2029.000 FPS
10180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2036.000 FPS
10157 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2031.400 FPS
10169 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2033.800 FPS
10141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2028.200 FPS
#
Computer
Processor
4x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Memory
1814MB (142MB used)
Operating System
Puppy Linux 0.22
User Name
root (root)
Date/Time
Tue 31 Aug 2010 09:15:04 PM GMT-8
Display
Resolution
1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer
ION/PCI/SSE2
X11 Vendor
The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter
HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter
USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d
Input Devices
Chicony 2.4G Multimedia Wireless Kit

Chicony 2.4G Multimedia Wireless Kit

UVC Camera (046d:08c5)

OpenGL
Vendor
NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer
ION/PCI/SSE2
Version
3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.35
Direct Rendering
Yes

Did setup wizards, and downloaded Firefox 4 beta3,googleearth,and vlc.
Rebooted to create save file.
Yay, it all works!

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 04:58**

playdayz wrote:There is a kind of interesting design approach in Lupu that is somewhat unique.

(Just a little rambling theory for fun)
.

I'm not sure serendipity qualifies as a "design approach".

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 05:14**

DaveS wrote:
playdayz wrote:
Tried to set Flsynclient..... Synaptics not found!
Re-booted creating save file. Tried Flsynclient again... Synaptics not found.
Deleted save file, re-booted using classic configuration system. All no problem INCLUDING successful Synaptics install.
You know, we have had a report that synaptics only worked when automatically configured not when configured with CCE. As far as I am concerned it is all one system and we have two methods of configuring--if one does not work correctly then there is a chance the other will. It sounds like you are able to configure your hardware and use Lucid Puppy. Good deal.
Agreed. And it works the best yet. I actually deleted my 'fall back' Mint today. Never use it now

There is something about Flsynclient on Barry's blog.
Not sure if it helps this problem.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01782

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 05:37**

Luci-222 live pfix=ram on the quad. Only installed Firefox.....no Nvidia driver yet.
Booted to the correct resolution(1366x768) and working sound and internet.No acceleration though.

VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 222

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (141MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.22
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 01 Sep 2010 12:38:13 AM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

Going to install Nvidia driver, back in a few....

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 05:41**

shinobar wrote:
DaveS wrote:
shinobar wrote: The Synaptics touchpad works from the first desktop, but the flsynclient fails.
I made a wrapper script which can be a solution.
Try this.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 668#444668
OK... fresh frugal install, no save file. Booted to desktop. Installed wrapper script. Attempted flsynclient.... Synaptics found, must restart X to use it. Attempted restart X, fail. Ran Xorg wizard... fail.
Hmmm....
Reboot, use classic configuration procedure, all fine.
Sorry, it was not tested on Lupu. Try the revised if you still have an interest.

TOTAL SUCCESS!
Automatic configuration works with this wrapper installed! Flsynclient bug DEAD!

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 05:51**

I'm back................

Installed the Nvidia 256.35 driver with Quickpet, made a few tweaks in the Nvidia wizard and.........

VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 222

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

# glxgears
7742 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1548.400 FPS
9224 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1844.800 FPS
10063 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2012.600 FPS
10063 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2012.600 FPS
10053 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2010.600 FPS
10040 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2008.000 FPS
14137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2827.400 FPS
14583 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2916.600 FPS
14205 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2841.000 FPS
14213 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2842.600 FPS

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 11:29**

Still can't find the driver database for cups 1.4.3

the printers and drivers are listed at /usr/share/gutenprint/5.2/xml/printers.xml

One database seem to be at /usr/share/cups/ppdc/

and another at /usr/lib/gutenprint/5.2/modules/

I have an epson printer and I`m very confident

but there seems to be only one file for brother at /usr/share/ppd/

I`m wondering if some people are having problems setting up the printer for not having drivers already.

Had printed pdf without problems -- the pdf patch would take time to download and play around with.

The only nasty experience was that midori started doubling up http://localhost:631/ to http://localhost//localhost:631/
I had such too with firefox at one 4.3 adding www. like http://www.localhost:631/ while at internet (this was repaired by replacing /etc/cups) but until now there weren`t any X server crashes or hard shutdown so I do not see the need for examining /etc/cups at the moment

`cups_shell` seems to be right; couldn`t find any doubles there

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 12:18**

JRB is back after a (too long for us) break.

What's more - he is going to do a little development! The Lucid developer team just gets better and better.

With QuickPet and an integrated SFS linker we can hopefully silence those reviewers who say the expansion possibilities of Puppy are limited.

I feel good today!

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 12:36**

Query for Playdayz

Regarding the init script that executes on startup.

Is the Lucid design philosopy to take that which is provided via woof or could we tinker with it to provide a Lucid specific experience?

I ask this because there are some features implemented in other init scripts that could be useful, such as these examples:

- Shinobar's mod to allow add on sfs files to be stored in the same location as the Puppy files in a frugal install.
- when using a live CD give an option whether the sfs file is transferred to hard drive from the CD and not do it automatically.
- speed the frugal boot process by searching the psubdir location directly (when psubdir is used) rather than search everwhere and then ignore anything outside psubdir.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 12:40**

Karl Godt wrote:Still can't find the driver database for cups 1.4.3

I believe that you are looking for the collection of PPD files. Strictly speaking, these are not printer drivers.

Like I said in my previous post, CUPS 1.4.3 does not need to keep a permanent store of Gutenprint PPD files. That's why you can't find them. When you select a printer, CUPS generates the matching PPD file on the fly, then transfers it to /etc/cups/ppd.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 13:00**

ICPUG wrote: there are some features implemented in other init scripts that could be useful, such as these examples:.

thanks for your interest. I like to add some information.

Shinobar's mod to allow add on sfs files to be stored in the same location as the Puppy files in a frugal install.
This is implemented in Puppy-4.3JP first and now woof 20Jul2010 and later also has. Lupu-222 too? i have not yet tested on lupu.
See Barry's Blog.
when using a live CD give an option whether the sfs file is transferred to hard drive from the CD and not do it automatically.
The automatical copy of sfs is removed on Puppy-4.2, the last community edition, but Barry brings back at Puppy 4.3.
speed the frugal boot process by searching the psubdir location directly (when psubdir is used) rather than search everwhere and then ignore anything outside psubdir.
Maybe Puppy-4.3JP and later, unique on Japanese editions.

See Puppy Linux 431JP release note section 'Differences from original version', item 2, for the detail.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 14:14**

trying Luci222: no problems with apps, though I'm likely not as thorough as some. Pcd, Pmusic and psync worked fine. I was not able to determine if 915resolution works properly, but I get 1024x768x24 normally and don't miss not getting the max 32 bit color depth.

In the tiny details dept: It might be "nice" if moving the second psync window didn't erase the underlying one. Also, mainly for the benefit of newer users, shouldn't there be an "Exit to prompt" item in the icewm menu item as exists in jwm and is referred to in "Setup"? Maybe merely relabel "Logout"?

Apparently not a problem for most, for me Luci222 fails often (unrecoverable black screen) on reboot or anything that involves restarting X, such as switching from jwm to icewm. Sure did make trying to test 915resolution a pain. Lucid 5.10 is good in this respect though not perfect. Only "intel 845" knows why ...

Seamonkey had the refresh problem when ovelapping the taskbar overlap initially, but not after a reboot. I think firefox did the same on Lucid 510.

... with thanks.

Posted: **Wed 01 Sep 2010, 15:04**

CUPS generates the matching PPD file on the fly

So it's in the air ?
not becomming rude is difficult sometimes

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