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#46 Post by rarsa »

There is a bot editing posts. changing some words with other offensive words.
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#47 Post by Pizzasgood »

It's not a bot, it's part of the forum. Flash enabled it to make some of the things spammers post show up as "poisonous crap" (did you think they were truly intending to post about poisonous crap?)

I don't know why he'd also set it to censor that system which involves the government paying everybody's bills with everyone else's money though. Sure, when taken to far it becomes poisonous crap, but in moderation it isn't too bad. I'm using federal aid to help pay for college, after all.
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#48 Post by Flash »

I've sent a PM to sunburnt asking for clarification. If I find out what is going on, I promise I'll let everyone know what it is. I didn't intentionally edit anyone's post, but as Pizza says, I've set the forum's word censor to substitute "funny" phrases in drugs and gambling spam. :)
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#49 Post by Pizzasgood »

socialism

The above should say s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-m, but without the hyphens. I don't know if more than that is going on, but that's the main complaint.

I don't like that type of government, but it's not that deadly if you ask me....
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#50 Post by rarsa »

Well, that filter is not working.

It edited many of my posts changing words with "poisonous crap". They read quite offensive now and I wouldn't have the time to fix them.

I think that that filter has the wrong dictionary of words to change.

Based on the results I totally believe that that filter was ill conceived. I don't think it's just a coincidence that the political posts were affected. All the power to stop spam but not at the expense of legitimate posts.

Flash, I know that you didn't mean harm turning on that option but I would suggest you to turn it off until you understand how it works. Hopefully it didn't chante the actual posts, just how the forum displays them.
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#51 Post by Pizzasgood »

It's just the display. I checked by editing that last post and in the text-window it still showed the correct word.

I've played with that filter before on my own site, and it lets you choose and add/remove/edit everything yourself. All he'd need to do is look through it, find the words that wouldn't make sense to censor, and remove them. Pie.

EDIT: Ah, looks like it's fixed now. You'll see my post above no longer reads "poisonous crap", but instead "socialism".
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#52 Post by Flash »

Okay, it looks like it was my fault. The word c-i-a-l-i-s is part of socialism. I removed the wild card (*) from before and after the word in the word censor list and now socialism is not affected. Any more like that? :oops:

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#53 Post by amish »

Flash wrote:Okay, it looks like it was my fault. The word c-i-a-l-i-s is part of socialism.
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#54 Post by rarsa »

Flash wrote:Okay, it looks like it was my fault. The word c-i-a-l-i-s is part of socialism. I removed the wild card (*) from before and after the word in the word censor list and now socialism is not affected. Any more like that? :oops:
Good Catch!

ROFL too. This is how conspiracy theories are created!

So it was actually just a coincidence that the political posts were affected.

Such an inocent change had a very strong political connotation.
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#55 Post by Flash »

What took me so long to figure it out was that no one who complained about their posts being edited gave a link to any of the posts in question, and there just isn't time for me to read every single post all the way through. When Pizzasgood s-p-e-l-l-e-d out the word so the forum wouldn't censor it, I instantly saw my mistake. :lol:

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#56 Post by sunburnt »

This is great! I'd hoped it was something as simple as this.
And malperfoming filters are about as simple as you can get.
Being as getting them tuned right is more art than science, this event is a laugher!

:lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol:

P.S I just looked at Flash's PM with the censor list of words, I had to laugh!
But I immediately see why it is as it is, spammers are a plague!


Pizzasgood; Take these words we using at face value, NOT what other people say about them.
The U.S.A. says it's a democracy (NOT), the U.S.S.R. said it was communist (NOT).

Socialism is a political system based on society (people = humanity).
Capitalism is a political system based on capital (money = greed).

Anotherwords... in a capitalism money is everything & everything else is crap.
If you think that this isn't what's going on in America... many would disagree.
A political system based on people & their needs is obviously what's needed.

They're just words, don't be afraid of words or lies said about the words.
In the final analisis. don't argue over words... argue about ideas & solutions.

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#57 Post by Pizzasgood »

I was more aiming for the joke involving "poisonous crap" than for deriding socialism in general. I'm no fan of my idea of a strong socialistic government (or a purely capitalistic government for that matter), but that doesn't mean I'm totally against it. Like I said, I'm not exactly paying for my education out of my own pocket. I'm in college partially due to the combined might of socialism (federal aid) and capitalism (scholarships are good for PR).

The trick is getting the right balance. I can't tell you what that balance is yet, because I haven't been around long enough to know what I'm talking about.

I do know that I'm all for socialism when it means helping children gain the opportunity to become productive adults. I'm against it when it means funding slackers or doing things for me when I could do them myself. I'll handle my own finances, thank you. And I'll learn from my mistakes, because I will make them.

But I never intended to get into a political discussion, so I'm going to shut up now. Otherwise I'll ramble on and on and on...
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