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Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 05:02
by alienjeff
Henry wrote:Sure, the paw print is not bad. The difficulty with abstract logos is they should still be recognizable. Not easy, I know. Of course once you establish the relationship, by labeling it "puppy" there's no problem. I would not know one animal's paw print from another without being told.
Hmmm. Lets see here. I've downloaded a computer ISO of a GNU/Linux OS. The site I'm downloading it from has called it Puppy Linux. Ah, there's a paw print on the desktop. Wonder what kind of paw print that is ...

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Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 05:40
by John Doe
..crap first double post

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 05:40
by John Doe
alienjeff wrote:Ah, there's a paw print on the desktop. Wonder what kind of paw print that is ...
Dogs have 5 digits, that's an alien for sure.

Aliens have 8 fingers which is why they understand HEX so well.

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 06:01
by willhunt
I really liked them all :D

Since there seem to be some great artist here I would like
to take this chance to ask if anyone could make a wallpaper
like the old tropicana suntan lotion add only with a older
women and the bikini should be a microsoft flag :lol:
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the face should be bill gates

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 08:05
by WhoDo
Okay, how about this one? Button embossing can be more pronounced if required. With our without the glassy effect?

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Ok, the voting is now open...and I've updated the comparison package on the previous page.

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 09:39
by afgs
Here's my contribution. Using a simplified, stylistic form of a chihuahua puppy face. Seen in desktop background, disk label, disk cover.

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 13:28
by alienjeff
John Doe wrote:Dogs have 5 digits, that's an alien for sure.
A dog that is standing does not leave an impression of its dew claw.

-aj

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 17:11
by cb88
i went w/ the square glass rastapax w/ ears it has become more refined and looks cool and is nearly as professional looking as the original square rastapax

Puppy logo - here's my vote!

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 17:38
by Henry
I don't see why we need something different from this. It's got class and continuity. See the attached.

Henry

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 17:58
by jonyo
No doubt..looks :) like a pup.. Wife had quite the uhmmm.. constructive criticism :roll: of some of the others.. pup seal - yes, cat - yes, not sure what.. - yes.. pup - say what :?

Posted: Mon 09 Jul 2007, 22:00
by WhoDo
afgs wrote:Here's my contribution. Using a simplified, stylistic form of a chihuahua puppy face. Seen in desktop background, disk label, disk cover.
Now THAT I really like! Unfortunately I can't change the poll to include it without losing all existing votes. Those who want to vote for afgs' logo will have to say so in their posts, so they can be counted.

Cheers

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 00:07
by Henry
Ah, well, I came into this thread kind of midstream and probably should have not have ventured into the waters. (Although going back to the beginning and reading through didn't seem to help much ;-)

I have been extremely impressed with Puppy Linux from the beginning and am anxious for it to succeed. It shouldn't hurt for it to appear a little serious. Of course Debian et al have succeeded to a modest degree with a terrible scrawl of a logo. Maybe what the logo is is not so important as that it attain a degree of recognition. Change should be done for a good reason. Sure, it could be a anything, like the cloverleaf of Slax (actually I think their default tennis shoe background is somewhat inspired.)

But not to waste the capital we've inherited from Barry's logos. Fine tuning is wanted rather than trivia or shock. (Vincent has unique charm!) Other wise I have suggested Barry's brown face-on dog. Maybe I don't understand what the proposed "new logo" is for. . .

Yes , the brown dog is horrible (unbearable) for a screen background, but the stylized dog itself, reduced to a suitable logo size for the purpose, would be very suitable. Of course it needs a different background color. Heck, make the dog blue too if you like, but it is a no-nonsense, determined stance that suits Puppy Linux.

Henry

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 02:53
by jcagle
alienjeff wrote:With all due respect to everyone involved, please consider that commercial and not-for-profit enterprises alike do not change their logos often, and when they do, it's rarely drastic. There's a very good reason (or seventeen) for this:

product recognition through consistency

So if you all want to while away the hours, reinvent wheels and niggle over minutia, be my guest and have at it.

I, for one, see nothing wrong with the classic paw print logo circa Puppy 1.08r1.

-aj

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Good point, and when I was a graphic design student, this was discussed. We were taught that any logo changes should be "evolutionary, not revolutionary". It's ok to have a new logo, but it should be similar to your previous logo. If you suddenly change the logo to something totally different, people who recognized your product before are not going to recognize it with the new logo.

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 02:57
by jcagle
silverojo wrote:
wow wrote:And, have you seen this? it looks more like Vincent(the new real puppy)

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Made by rastapax :arrow: http://www.puppylinux.org/user/photogal ... ?photo=144
As cute as the logo in post #1 is, I kind of prefer this logo above. It's simpler, more professional-looking and seems more like a logo for an operating system. It's cute without being overly cute. :)
If you must absolutely drasticly change the logo, however, I like one of these the best. In fact, I think you could go with different colors here. You know how with the MTV logo, it's basically the same each time, but they make some modifications to it every time you see it? Same thing could be done here. Maybe not as drastic as the MTV logo, but different colors, as long as they work well together.

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 05:54
by MGFox
Why rush with the voting? IMHO let's give time to explore all the possibillities. Also don't limit with only chihuahuas or kelpies, or dog's face only, how about paws, tail (especially wagging tail = friendliness), silhouette, stylistic, etc. After that make a list then go for voting, and maybe not only one round only.

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 06:18
by alienjeff
MGFox wrote:Why rush with the voting?
Good question.

It's because the slap-dash mindset is so prevalent around here. Do you really expect a more deliberate process when you're dealing with a distribution with an average new release cycle of 6-8 weeks? Just as with the distro, regardless of whether the logo needs more work, just ship it as is. It can be patched later ...

-aj

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 06:57
by LOF
Guys I think we need to outline exactly what type of logo we want. I'd argue we need:

-simple
-memorable
-recognisable
-clean

Thus we need to look at other logos and get inspiration.

I think we need a simple icon/logo that can be varied easily (think Ubuntu, Kubuntu...).
I think we also need to use simple shapes. (think MEPIS, Slax and Zenwalk)
Finally I think we just need a puppy face-on (think FoX Linux)

Inspiration:
http://730x.up.md/wp-content/44218-1.png

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 07:05
by MGFox
cb88 wrote:
| @ whodo could the ear be moved inside the circle?

Maybe like this?

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 07:15
by WhoDo
MGFox wrote:cb88 wrote:
| @ whodo could the ear be moved inside the circle?

Maybe like this?
Hmmm...looks even more like a cat than a dog that way. I'm beginning to think that the rastapax-style logo is ok, BUT I don't like the bland colours. I prefer the brighter colours myself. What about this?

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More inspiration

Posted: Tue 10 Jul 2007, 07:27
by Lobster
Some great new ideas :)

We are not Gnome, Wolvix Linux or Paw Linux (or any of the other paw based symbols)

We are Puppy Linux

The best way to represent Puppy is with . . . drum roll . . .
a Puppy (more clues on request) :)

There is only one Puppy that carries a yellow flower

Puppy Linux
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variants
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2951#33667

and for those big strong macho geeks frightened of flowers . . .
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Notice: This is a logo for Puppy, also known as Puppy Linux and PuppyOS.
It is copyright (c) Barry Kauler 2006. Permission is given to use this logo,
however it must be displayed alongside a link (or link embedded in image)
to www.puppylinux.com.

here is Barry with Vincent (mascot for Puppy Viz 2.15)
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some pics of the original Puppy
http://www.puppylinux.com/amy/index.html

Is Puppy a slacker?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... ch&id=1629