(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

musher0-

maybe the following from the Fox's mouth,
no less, will help you:

Thanks. Some of those URLs were helpful, although none of them went into the caches in about:config. Plus I have read that hardware acceleration causes erratic video behavior.

All this browser stuff has gotten completely out of hand, IMHO.

Mike

Indeed. QupZilla is a sports car compared to the mega-trucks the major
browsers have now become.

BFN.

musher0

musher0-

Indeed. QupZilla is a sports car compared to the mega-trucks the major browsers have now become.

Between hackers finding new security holes and website designers exploiting to the maximum every bell and whistle that comes along, browsers are just gonna keep getting more and more unmanageable.

Maybe this is some corollary to Murphy's Law. The Internet itself appears to have self-destruction built in. And that goes for many aspects of current technology. Not everything that appears to be a great invention works out in the long run.

For the moment, though, a temporary solution for me probably means Slimboat or Opera plus the gtk youtube viewer.

Mike

Wise choice!

mp4 downloader addons are by far the easiest option if thats what you want. You don't even need a flash plugin or html5 to use those and you have total control over what happens to the download.

I realised the other day it seems google is the current internet mangler now.

The javascript apis and related css which they lob around for free are pushing their browser and all that entails. (the 'free' Internet explorer in windows 98 was basically meant to do the same thing plus put any competition out of business...which it did.) If you don't bend to their whim then you might just get a blank web page where there used to be content...had a couple recently and even the latest mozilla would still not render....

In short google have made their attempt to take over the internet in a similar style to that of Microsoft...but a bit more polished about it ... its more pronounced with android but the idea of if you want you tube TV you buy one of these....and by the way other sites with video will work badly And sod any web standards of course.

Its about market control and not technology advancement.
Big browsers are partitally about trying to keep up with such crap.
Or dig yer heels in and leave them to it....

All fun and games...for them...

mike

mikeb-

mp4 downloader addons are by far the easiest option

Not useful to me as I do a lot of video browsing. Plus, at my current download speed it would take all night to download a 90-minute '50s gangster flick <grin>.

I realised the other day it seems google is the current internet mangler now.

I think this has been in the works for some time. Google's investment in servers and the tech support for them, not to mention their electricity bill, has forced them to upscale their business model. Ergo: the quest for control.

If you don't bend to their whim then you might just get a blank web page where there used to be content...had a couple recently and even the latest mozilla would still not render....

That is bad news. The end of the web is near, I fear, with three or four competitors carving out exclusive niches. This was bound to happen. The search engine business model is a dead end. I foresee the rise of subscribable intranets and the further balkanization of the Internet. There is an interesting historical parallel with the railroads, and their demise.

the idea is if you want you tube TV you buy one of these....and by the way other sites with video will work badly

In short, the usual unregulated dogfight.

And sod any web standards of course.

Of course. Standards only work through cooperation, the bankers' dirty word.

Its about market control and not technology advancement.

Sure. Although proprietary advanced technology is part of the equation.

Big browsers are partially about trying to keep up with such crap.
Or dig yer heels in and leave them to it....

There's no way to sidestep the process. You either opt in to the Internet business model as it has now evolved, or you opt out of the Internet.

All fun and games...for them...

Precisely.

Mike

musher0-

Wise choice!

I hope so.

"Il ne faut pas multiplier les êtres logiques inutilement." (Ockham)

Est-ce que vous trouvez des êtres logiques, Monsieur Ockham?

M.

There's no way to sidestep the process.

I seem to ...... there is still choice out there...at least for now in spite of attempts to coerce and censor

Plus, at my current download speed it would take all night to download a 90-minute '50s gangster flick <grin>.

so how would you watch it in flash since that would have the same bandwidth needs?

By the way you can download and watch at the same time...just click on it...

mike

Mike7 wrote:musher0-

Wise choice!

I hope so.

"Il ne faut pas multiplier les êtres logiques inutilement." (Ockham)

Est-ce que vous trouvez des êtres logiques, Monsieur Ockham?

M.

Pas assez, Monsieur Mike7, pas assez !
Transl.: [Not enough, Mr. Mike7, not enough!]

mikeb-

so how would you watch it in flash since that would have the same bandwidth needs?

Would it? Downloading files always seems to take a long time, whereas watching videos realtime works normally (more or less).

you can download and watch at the same time

Wouldn't that use extra bandwidth? Anyway, are you suggesting I download mp4's of long videos during the night, shutting off all my computer's standby and sleep provisions and leaving it turned on and active all night long, just to downlaod maybe a 1.5-hr. video? What's your point here?

In any case, I've never had much success with long downloads. They usually get hung up for some reason (except sometimes ISO files from good repos). I guess I should be using a download controller, but. . .

Mike

A 50MB flash video gives me a 50MB mp4.... at the same quality they are the same file in effect just one has codec info hidden.... so require the same bandwidth.

If you are downloading a higher resolution video then it will be bigger.... the ones I get are around the 320p size..... The addon I use gets me that...some addons you can choose the quality.

Watching while downloading uses no extra bandwidth.... you save the file...it downloads...you play the downloading file.

We do this to watch videos in real time all the time.

mike

Hi, mikeb.

Sorry I'm so long in replying but I had a health issue.

Watching while downloading uses no extra bandwidth.... you save the file...it downloads...you play the downloading file.

Okay, I'm convinced, so long as you can interrupt the download at any time with no nasty side-effects <grin>. I've put "MP4 youtube downloader" on my list of urgent things to do (now up to 37 items).

M.

Strange how the normal desktop browsers are getting bigger and bigger whilst more and more people want to access the net via smaller devices like smart phones using small browsers like Opera Mini for example. I've been using Opera Mini for years now on my desktop computer (and on cellphone). Excellent for general browsing.

Hi, guys.

If you are going to discuss browser sizes and not simply size of browser
caches, I'd rather you move that discussion in its own thread, to avoid
digressions.

Nothing personal, I actually enjoy your comments.

It's just that this thread is pegged as sticky on the forum and is intended
for newbies. So if we could stay on subject, the newbies -- and I -- will
be grateful.

Thanks in advance.

musher0

musher0 wrote: if we could stay on subject

I guess we've gotten pretty far afield from pupsave and swap files <grin>.

M.

Hi, Mike7.

That's ok. No guilt trip, please!

I think discussing "size of browser caches" here was/is ok. It has a distant
but real link with the overall "space" created by the pupsave and the swap
file. Beyond that would be pushing it, though!

BFN.

musher0

allo Musher0 help desk, I need your zip to solve the nice and thin WOLX, Puppy from France. It kernels panick when uploading its own wolxsave.
I will feedback if your zip save me from the deroot.
"Would it be a good idea to use gzip since some pups won't support lzo or xz by default.." lzo unrecognized by Wolx
I take a break.
UEextract 2.7 decompresses lzo... moi je m'énerve un peu de ces contretemps Only french speaking citizens could understand.
Canadian Help Desk method is sucessful
My wolx explodes again with kernel panic, but it's a different cause pupsave is empty, wolx runs in RAM, and explodes kernel panic with empty pupsave, tabernacle ! Patente à gosses! Viande à chien!

Hello all.

At the end of June, nic007 published a nice pupsave creator script, here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#959268

Enjoy! BFN.

musher0 wrote:Hello all.

At the end of June, nic007 published a nice pupsave creator script, here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#959268

Enjoy! BFN.

musher0, hope you don't mind that I'm messing with your thread...and a swapfile creator here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=111117

Hi, nic007!

This is a thread about pupsaves and swap files, not about me!

Please feel right at home in it!

BFN.