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Posted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 22:55
by runtt21
The next Macpup is still a way off but here is a shot of the beginning of it.
Precise 5.2.60 beta with EFL 1.2.2 and e17 71440....
Posted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 23:15
by Gnuxo
oooooooooooooooo....I love the wallpaper!
But the ibar theme doesn't match very well.
Is the next one based on precise puppy? Or are you going to stick with lucid.
I'm really wondering what will happen to all the lucid puppies, once the
10.04 LTS sees the end of it's life cycle.
Posted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 23:48
by runtt21
I intend to build the next macpup on precise. It's time to move forward. But then again Playdaze could put out a new lucid with a 3.2.x or newer kernel. Who knows.....
Posted: Tue 26 Jun 2012, 01:39
by Gnuxo
No, no please build it on top of precise.
There are so many new programs that are being developed and leaving gtk2 behind.
Gimp2,8, Audacious...etc;
The only thing I want to know is, how will precise based puppies run on old computers?
Posted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 01:10
by runtt21
Sneeky playing with some of the new themes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLK4lbdVnLY
Posted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 03:27
by rokytnji
The only thing I want to know is, how will precise based puppies run on old computers?
I run bleeding edge libs and software on my IBM A22M which is pretty old.
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harry@Biker:~$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version: core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:cxx-3.0-ia32:cxx-3.0-noarch:cxx-3.1-ia32:cxx-3.1-noarch:cxx-3.2-ia32:cxx-3.2-noarch:desktop-3.1-ia32:desktop-3.1-noarch:desktop-3.2-ia32:desktop-3.2-noarch:graphics-2.0-ia32:graphics-2.0-noarch:graphics-3.0-ia32:graphics-3.0-noarch:graphics-3.1-ia32:graphics-3.1-noarch:graphics-3.2-ia32:graphics-3.2-noarch:qt4-3.1-ia32:qt4-3.1-noarch
Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (wheezy)
Release: testing
Codename: wheezy
harry@Biker:~$ uname -r
3.4.2-antix.2-486-smp
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harry@Biker:~$ apt-cache policy libgtk-3-0
libgtk-3-0:
Installed: 3.2.3-1
Candidate: 3.4.2-1
Version table:
3.4.2-1 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing/main i386 Packages
*** 3.2.3-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
As you can see. I still have a apt-get dist-upgrade pending later. I will probably do this after this post.
The only problems I see with running latest stuff is minimum requirements for like latest firefox and flash on older computers.
Flash 11 minimum requirements
Linux
2.33GHz or faster x86-compatible processor, or Intel Atom 1.6GHz or faster processor for netbooks
Red Hat® Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 5.6 or later (32-bit and 64-bit), openSUSE® 11.3 or later (32-bit and 64-bit), Ubuntu 10.04 or later (32-bit and 64-bit)
Mozilla Firefox 4.0 or Google Chrome
512MB of RAM; 128MB of graphics memory
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplay ... specs.html
Firefox 13 minimum requirements
Linux
Software Requirements
Please note that Linux distributors may provide packages for your distribution which have different requirements.
Firefox will not run at all without the following libraries or packages:
GTK+ 2.10 or higher
GLib 2.12 or higher
Pango 1.14 or higher
X.Org 1.0 or higher (1.7 or higher is recommended)
libstdc++ 4.3 or higher
For optimal functionality, we recommend the following libraries or packages:
NetworkManager 0.7 or higher
DBus 1.0 or higher
HAL 0.5.8 or higher
GNOME 2.16 or higher
So newer libs and Xorg is kinda of a must to keep up with changes with newer applications like browsers and flash.
My specs from what I am posting from right now for a reference
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harry@Biker:~$ inxi -z -F
System: Host: Biker Kernel: 3.4.2-antix.2-486-smp i686 (32 bit)
Desktop: IceWM 1.3.7 Distro: antiX-M11-686 Jayaben Desai 01 May 2011
Machine: Mobo: IBM model: 2628TWU Bios: IBM version: KXET33WW (1.06 ) date: 09/05/2001
CPU: Single core Pentium III (Coppermine) (-UP-) cache: 256 KB flags: (sse) clocked at 1000.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x
X.Org: 1.11.3.901 drivers: ati,mach64 (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@87.0hz
GLX Renderer: Rasterizer GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 7.11.2
Audio: Card: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] driver: snd_cs46xx
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: 1.0.25
Network: Card-1: 3Com 3c556B CardBus [Tornado] driver: 3c59x
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI driver: rt61pci
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 20.0GB (25.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: IC25N020ATCS04 size: 20.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 6.4G used: 3.5G (57%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 12G used: 4.8G (44%) fs: ext4
ID: swap-1 size: 0.76GB used: 0.01GB (2%) fs: swap
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 74.0C mobo: 47.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info: Processes: 105 Uptime: 2:03 Memory: 292.1/501.5MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4
harry@Biker:~$
Also. I know that any puppy based on Puppy 520 just won't boot on some older computers without a kernel panic. So one needs to go with a retro based puppy version instead. So I guess what I am saying basically is. I run OK with this setup on this old laptop. But time marches on and requirements for certain apps are just out stripping the legacy gear which really. One either has to live with or move on to something else.
I will be ready to test Precise Macpup when runtt21 tells me it is ready. I will first test on my eeepcs and Acer Aspire One Atom and Celeron NetBooks. Then on my P3 gear after. I sold all of my P2 gear. I Just bought a 100 disk stack of cdr's at Wally World runtt21 so no sweat for disks in case my PLOP Floppy won't boot MacPup Precise on USB 1.1 with no usb bios support.
Happy Trails, Rok
Posted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 14:16
by Gnuxo
I understand Rok. Hopefully requirements won't outstrip my pc, which is only about six or seven years old.
Posted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 14:17
by Gnuxo
I understand Rok. Hopefully requirements won't outstrip my pc, which is only about six or seven years old.
Posted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 15:44
by rokytnji
As you can see. I still have a apt-get dist-upgrade pending later. I will probably do this after this post.
After I did the dist upgrade. During upgrade I pulled in Flash 11.2. This broke flash for me on that IBM A22M computer. My browsers are current though. So I had to go to Adobe legacy flash download page. I downloaded Flash 11.1 to my laptop. Extracted libflashplayer.so from it.
I did a
in terminal to find the path which was /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so in AntiX.
I deleted the libflashplayer.so in there and put in my 11.1 libflashplayer.so I extracted in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree directory in it's place. I then locked down flashplayer-nonfree in synaptic package manager so it would not upgrade flash anymore on that laptop.
On My M/C shop Desktop which is a P4 Emachine with 1 gig of ram. The Flashplayer upgrade to 11.2 worked fine. So you see. Hardware makes a difference now a days on what works and what does not work when it comes to flash at least.
Sorry if I got a bit off topic here runtt21. Just figured the info would be useful later for people with old gear.
Posted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 19:09
by Gnuxo
Rok, I don't bother with flash. It glitches and lags and slows down my entire pc. It's not worth the effort.
That's why I use addons and javascripts to play multimedia online.
It's faster and without the hassle.
Posted: Thu 28 Jun 2012, 21:23
by rokytnji
Gnuxo wrote:Rok, I don't bother with flash. It glitches and lags and slows down my entire pc. It's not worth the effort.
That's why I use addons and javascripts to play multimedia online.
It's faster and without the hassle.
I guess I got used to using flash because I need it on my more powerful netbooks and Desktops to run
HuluDesktop .
I have not delved into using
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/50771 on my older gear yet. Still have some things to learn I guess.
Posted: Thu 28 Jun 2012, 23:02
by Gnuxo
That script is out of date.
This one is what I use.
http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en
Posted: Tue 03 Jul 2012, 21:26
by runtt21
Posted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 22:04
by runtt21
Posted: Sun 08 Jul 2012, 01:32
by runtt21
The new Silk-5 theme based on Rasyer's new SVN default theme . On the page now. Enjoy !!
Posted: Mon 13 Aug 2012, 08:57
by runtt21
Posted: Mon 13 Aug 2012, 23:12
by Gnuxo
How interesting.
That was a nice review, though I really don't think flash should be preinstalled. There are numerous reasons for that, at least for me.
Though dpup exprimo has a little startup script that opens up the first time you launch a browser, asking whether you want to install flash, I usally hit cancel but that's probably the way to go to provide an option for the people needing it.
Personally, I'd rather firefox came with flashvideoreplacer preinstalled so that gecko mediaplayer can play some online vids.
Posted: Wed 15 Aug 2012, 04:38
by James C
eNLightenment was Unable to Run the Application XBMC
Posted: Wed 15 Aug 2012, 09:18
by Max Headroom
Specifically Eden 11 Pet from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77354
Any Suggestions Please...
:)K
Posted: Wed 15 Aug 2012, 16:53
by Clive
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