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. To summarise then, Vala compiling is not working in in 5.1.1 at the moment.

Hi tronkel, Do you happen to know when was the last time it worked?

The modem problems. There might be a problem through latest woof. Not sure but maybe you should consult rerwin.

In wary thread BK announced this and there is also mention about it in BK`s blog.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 110#448110

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01791

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01797

playdayz wrote:BTW, I am about to post an LXDE Light for Lupu.

Works great and is compatible with your wbar.

Cheers,
Jim

Thanks playdayz, I await the results of your thinking as mine is getting nowhere . I tried the new window manager but it over-rode my Dude settings and my keyboard choices. When I reverted to JWM I could not change my settings and was told my jwm.config was corrupted. Was also told that there were NO keyboard layouts available! (I use Dvorak.) Fortunately I am learning and had a backup of my pupsave.

Pemasu, thank also! As noted above I had seen BK's blog and applied his fix, but to no avail. I do believe that the problem is due to woof as I am seeing changes in the behavior of pupdial that were not present before and clean installs show that they are not due to changes on my part.

At this point it looks like I am going to stay with 5.10.003 as it it working fine except for firefox mysteriously going away on occasion. It also seems that that the current woof is not yet ready to replicate 5.1.1 which was my main interest in it. I would like to make a bare-bones version and use jrb's sfs-loader. His choicepup was my favorite up til 5.1.) Until then I am going to try to concentrate on getting a handle on bash scripting, unless any of you have better ideas for mastering the learning curve

Grace & peace,

Chris

Playdays wrote:

Hi tronkel, Do you happen to know when was the last time it worked?

I can't say if it has ever worked or not in the Lucid series since I haven't tested Vala before in Lucid.

I don't think there's too much wrong though. With experience gained from Ubuntu which had a similar Vala compiling problem, I suspect that the gtk-dev package plus its dependencies are missing in Lucid. These will be quite space-consuming so the best thing to do is to open the Lucid devx and merge the dependencies inside there.

Adding these missing dependencies via Synaptic fixed the Vala compiling problem in Ubuntu Lucid, but whether all of the dependencies are actually necessary is guesswork. Space is as always an issue in Puppy.

Vala compiling does work though in Wary 5 with the 2.6.30 kernel with an ISO size roughly the same as Lucid 5.1.1. Wary is stripped down in other respects in comparison to Lucid though - so if a decision is made to include these missing Vala dependencies an increase in ISO size for Lucid seems unavoidable - unless the devx inclusion route is followed. Might be an idea to have a look at the Wary 5 package lists to try to identify exactly which GTK stuff got included by Barry.

I suspect that the gtk-dev package plus its dependencies are missing in Lucid.

tronkel, Forgive my ignorance please. I have searched packages.ubuntu.com and the PPM with the Ubuntu repositories enabled for variations of 'gtk-dev' but can't find anything that appears to be the package you mentioned. Thanks.

Sorry playdayz,

Got that info wrong. It looks as if the library you need is called libgtk2.0-dev and not gtk-dev as I mentioned before.

This info came from here originally and solved the Ubuntu problem.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala

All I did in Ubuntu was to select libgtk-2.0-dev for install and let Synaptic take care of the dependencies for that. It may well be though that you actually only need libgtk-2.0-dev.
Worth a try for starters.

Since I cannot connect with a pfix=ram installx of 511, am I out of luck? With the working wdialconfig from 510 copied to 511, clicking connect gives no such device ttyUSB0 error get the same for USB1 when I specify it Crying or Very sad

Gortonc, dejan555, and pemasu. There is now an Instant Update 001 for Lucid Puppy 5.1.1. There was a problem with some modem scripts in Woof and this update rolls them back--I think they might have applied to Lucid Puppy 5.1.1 (as pemasu suggested). The update also includes some fixes for very new wifi chipsets. Thanks.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/

Hi everybody!
I have just a little answer, hoping it isn't a low newbie problem!

I installed Lupu 5.1 - frugal mode - few days ago, appying all the necessary settings.
All runs fine, but now I see there is a new version , 5.1.1 .

I'm happy for this, because it means it's plenty of life...

But, does anyone has suggestion for the best way to upgrade?
Should I re-install it again or maybe there is a less dramatic and simpler procedure?

Thanks a lot for any info about!

does anyone has suggestion for the best way to upgrade?

The upgrade will be automatic if you burn and boot the newest version, usually. I am very careful myself and I usually boot the new version with the parameter 'puppy pfix=ram' until I make sure that it has no problems. You can also make a new install of the later version and begin with it from scratch. To be most careful you can make a copy of the lupusave file before you upgrade--just in case.

I am looking for system requirements for this Lucid Puppy. I just tried to start the live-cd and looked at kernel panic.

My very old hardware is 500MHz 256MB

Yes !!! Acer announced new BIOS version for my acer 5820TG laptop and now ACPI works straight. Battery status works and also other ACPI info. No need to compile kernel with patched acpi.ec module.

Well... hibernation is still something which needs added to kernel with Lupu. At least suspend works straight.

I am looking for system requirements for this Lucid Puppy. I just tried to start the live-cd and looked at kernel panic.

My very old hardware is 500MHz 256MB

That is right on the edge. I run Lucid Puppy on my Pentium 3 800MHz Thinkpad with 256MB ram however. Kernel panic sometimes comes because of a bad copy on the CDrom. One of the Puppies that targets older hardware might be more conducive--say Wary.

All I did in Ubuntu was to select libgtk-2.0-dev for install and let Synaptic take care of the dependencies for that. It may well be though that you actually only need libgtk-2.0-dev.
Worth a try for starters.

tronkel, ValaIDE opened and ran for a bit with this pet (the same as the libgtk2.0-dev-2.20.0 deb file). Would you be able to test it with compiling? Thanks either way.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -lucid.pet

BTW, PPM thought that I would need 50MB of dependencies to install libgtk2.0-dev....

Firefox 4.0 b5 is now linked in Lupu news. It also updates through earlier versions that are installed. Thanks.

playdayz wrote: One of the Puppies that targets older hardware might be more conducive--say Wary.

Sigh. Now that Wary is being distributed as a mix-and-match setup, it's not much use to someone who doesn't already have a working Puppy.

Better to recommend something from the 4 series.

Again I ask >> Tronkels >> Teamviewer pet

Can it be included in quickpets?

File: teamviewer_wine.pet Size: 17.75 MB

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e3aa28b8.html

I cannot understand why it is not there.
A killer app to help people out.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ges-lucid/

Textmaker-2002-Lucid.pet 01-Aug-2010 02:28 3.6M
[ ] Thunar-1.0.2-Lucid.pet 29-Jul-2010 22:30 4.3M

TEAMVIEWER.........missing in action.

[ ] Thunderbird-3.1-Lucid.pet 28-Jun-2010 06:33 12M
[ ] VLC-1.0.6-Lucid.pet 29-Jun-2010 04:21 28M

Chris.

Playdayz,

Thank you for the tip, but unfortunately nothing has changed. Reinstalled 5.1.1 pfix=ram, installed upgrade, reboot to create save file open pdial no modem found. Copy working wvdial.conf to /ect/ restart pdial and it correctly shows modem; click on it to confirm existence and am told no modem found. Oh well . . .

Grace & peace

Chris