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Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 18:36
by playdayz
I suspect that the gtk-dev package plus its dependencies are missing in Lucid.
tronkel, Forgive my ignorance please. I have searched packages.ubuntu.com and the PPM with the Ubuntu repositories enabled for variations of 'gtk-dev' but can't find anything that appears to be the package you mentioned. Thanks.

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 18:51
by tronkel
Sorry playdayz,

Got that info wrong. It looks as if the library you need is called libgtk2.0-dev and not gtk-dev as I mentioned before.

This info came from here originally and solved the Ubuntu problem.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala

All I did in Ubuntu was to select libgtk-2.0-dev for install and let Synaptic take care of the dependencies for that. It may well be though that you actually only need libgtk-2.0-dev.
Worth a try for starters.

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 19:12
by playdayz
Since I cannot connect with a pfix=ram installx of 511, am I out of luck? With the working wdialconfig from 510 copied to 511, clicking connect gives no such device ttyUSB0 error get the same for USB1 when I specify it Crying or Very sad
Gortonc, dejan555, and pemasu. There is now an Instant Update 001 for Lucid Puppy 5.1.1. There was a problem with some modem scripts in Woof and this update rolls them back--I think they might have applied to Lucid Puppy 5.1.1 (as pemasu suggested). The update also includes some fixes for very new wifi chipsets. Thanks.
http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 19:27
by inoxidabile
Hi everybody!
I have just a little answer, hoping it isn't a low newbie problem!

I installed Lupu 5.1 - frugal mode - few days ago, appying all the necessary settings.
All runs fine, but now I see there is a new version , 5.1.1 . :)

I'm happy for this, because it means it's plenty of life...

But, does anyone has suggestion for the best way to upgrade?
Should I re-install it again or maybe there is a less dramatic and simpler procedure?

Thanks a lot for any info about!

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 19:44
by playdayz
does anyone has suggestion for the best way to upgrade?
The upgrade will be automatic if you burn and boot the newest version, usually. I am very careful myself and I usually boot the new version with the parameter 'puppy pfix=ram' until I make sure that it has no problems. You can also make a new install of the later version and begin with it from scratch. To be most careful you can make a copy of the lupusave file before you upgrade--just in case.

System requirement for 5.1.1

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 19:54
by svgt
I am looking for system requirements for this Lucid Puppy. I just tried to start the live-cd and looked at kernel panic.

My very old hardware is 500MHz 256MB

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 19:54
by pemasu
Yes !!! Acer announced new BIOS version for my acer 5820TG laptop and now ACPI works straight. Battery status works and also other ACPI info. No need to compile kernel with patched acpi.ec module.

Well... hibernation is still something which needs added to kernel with Lupu. At least suspend works straight.

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 21:29
by playdayz
I am looking for system requirements for this Lucid Puppy. I just tried to start the live-cd and looked at kernel panic.

My very old hardware is 500MHz 256MB
That is right on the edge. I run Lucid Puppy on my Pentium 3 800MHz Thinkpad with 256MB ram however. Kernel panic sometimes comes because of a bad copy on the CDrom. One of the Puppies that targets older hardware might be more conducive--say Wary.

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 21:46
by playdayz
All I did in Ubuntu was to select libgtk-2.0-dev for install and let Synaptic take care of the dependencies for that. It may well be though that you actually only need libgtk-2.0-dev.
Worth a try for starters.
tronkel, ValaIDE opened and ran for a bit with this pet (the same as the libgtk2.0-dev-2.20.0 deb file). Would you be able to test it with compiling? Thanks either way.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -lucid.pet

BTW, PPM thought that I would need 50MB of dependencies to install libgtk2.0-dev.... ;-)

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 22:31
by playdayz
Firefox 4.0 b5 is now linked in Lupu news. It also updates through earlier versions that are installed. Thanks.

Posted: Wed 08 Sep 2010, 23:16
by rcrsn51
playdayz wrote: One of the Puppies that targets older hardware might be more conducive--say Wary.
Sigh. Now that Wary is being distributed as a mix-and-match setup, it's not much use to someone who doesn't already have a working Puppy.

Better to recommend something from the 4 series.

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 00:48
by playdayz

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 00:49
by playdayz

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 02:22
by cthisbear
Again I ask >> Tronkels >> Teamviewer pet

Can it be included in quickpets?

File: teamviewer_wine.pet Size: 17.75 MB

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e3aa28b8.html

I cannot understand why it is not there.
A killer app to help people out.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ges-lucid/

Textmaker-2002-Lucid.pet 01-Aug-2010 02:28 3.6M
[ ] Thunar-1.0.2-Lucid.pet 29-Jul-2010 22:30 4.3M

TEAMVIEWER.........missing in action.

[ ] Thunderbird-3.1-Lucid.pet 28-Jun-2010 06:33 12M
[ ] VLC-1.0.6-Lucid.pet 29-Jun-2010 04:21 28M

Chris.

5.1.1 breaks modem

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 02:30
by gortonc
Playdayz,

Thank you for the tip, but unfortunately nothing has changed. Reinstalled 5.1.1 pfix=ram, installed upgrade, reboot to create save file open pdial no modem found. Copy working wvdial.conf to /ect/ restart pdial and it correctly shows modem; click on it to confirm existence and am told no modem found. Oh well . . . :?

Grace & peace

Chris

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 03:00
by playdayz
Textmaker-2002-Lucid.pet 01-Aug-2010 02:28 3.6M
[ ] Thunar-1.0.2-Lucid.pet 29-Jul-2010 22:30 4.3M

TEAMVIEWER.........missing in action.

[ ] Thunderbird-3.1-Lucid.pet 28-Jun-2010 06:33 12M
[ ] VLC-1.0.6-Lucid.pet 29-Jun-2010 04:21 28M
LOL. It's on the way. Thanks for championing it.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... r_wine.pet
Now, could you give us all an explanation of what it does and how ;-)
(or is this one everybody knows but me?)

And please remember that you can always get the latest index of the puppy-lucid repo in Puppy Package Manager on Lupu News http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 03:43
by playdayz
Thank you for the tip, but unfortunately nothing has changed. Reinstalled 5.1.1 pfix=ram, installed upgrade, reboot to create save file open pdial no modem found. Copy working wvdial.conf to /ect/ restart pdial and it correctly shows modem; click on it to confirm existence and am told no modem found. Oh well . . . Confused
If 5.1.1 gives you any trouble then by all means use 5.10 with the Instant Update 003. 5.10 is a very good version.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 10-003.pet
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... pu-510.iso

5.1.1 breaks modem

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 04:31
by gortonc
Yes, I am very happy with 5.10.003. I just need to get the hang of remastering so I can make a striped down version. Sounds like it should be easy - just use the remove built-ins.pet and the remaster tool in puppy control center, but the CD's I produce all go to kernel panic. I just keep plugging along. I really appreciate all you guys who have dedicated so much time to this project. Keep up the great work!

Grace & peace

Chris

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 06:27
by tronkel
playdayz wrote:
tronkel, ValaIDE opened and ran for a bit with this pet (the same as the libgtk2.0-dev-2.20.0 deb file). Would you be able to test it with compiling? Thanks either way.
Good, I'll have a go at compiling and Valide with this pet later today and let you know how I get on.

Cheers

Jack

Posted: Thu 09 Sep 2010, 07:57
by tronkel
OK, more on the saga of Vala compiling

Without making a meal of it, this is how I got Vala compiling to succeed in Lucid 511.

Installed Playdayz's pet from here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -lucid.pet

Then installed this file:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/i386/ ... v/download

At this stage still no Vala compile.

Then decided to use the latest devx from Wary 5 replacing the Lucid 511 devx.

Vala then compiled OK

Valide however is still broken. This may need a re-compile at least.

Anyway, it's now possible to use Vala in Lucid 511. Geany works OK as an IDE for Vala. Would be nice to get Valide working though.

Would be interesting to have a look inside the Wary 5 devx and see where the differences are between this devx and the Lucid 511 one.