@aj i was referring more to lack of other processor ports more than lack of stability which knowing arch im sure it has plenty stability
I have been hearing rumors of other processor ports maybe arm and i think they have started x64 already
Puppy 5.0 "New Hope"
jason1308
you are correct about
are very different. Personally I have a TI 85 calculator
that I trust and use for any real calculations
so if puppy has a calculator or not it wont get used by me anyway thats trivial nonsence I agree
if a practical simple calculator is needed now they can even be found in a dollar store next.....
icons are another thing that are not on my top ten list
they can be included in a pet package for who ever would like to use them *added on later and any fancy theme should never cause the window manager to become unstable
there are many talented artist here that already make pet packages you can add on later so this area is covered just fine and they can also be easily removed or updated at the authors discretion next...
yes ,thats a valid point if puppy was based on an installed OS and it was just one version that grows
but every puppy iso has its own issues to sort out
which can take months of labor just sorting those issues out even for those who use puppy as their main OS
but since puppy is a live CD .. by design it is quickly outdated
now here's the good part
in the past this wasn't a problem
we *had (still have, but is shifting his focus on another project)
someone to just sort out these complex issues
and just do it
now most of the bickering here in the forum is self inflicted
if you walk into a room and start telling people
ok now I am running the show dont be surprised
to come up against resistance to say the least
or a tainted reputation
some people will hold their peace
others wont
so what you are seeing is really just a result
of a bad behavior pattern
why does that work now
because people do what they love to do
and support the version they love to use
that simple
and by making everything 100%
modular add what you want
to whatever version you want
we ALL do work together
and nobody is really in charge
a solution?
let open source be just that
open
free
and follow open source rules
that worked on so many other great projects
dont lock any forums
dont make a special puppy club of only a hand full of people you limit creativity
keep the door open you meet new friends
if two people work on a community edition
isnt that a puplet?
and shouldnt it be called so ?
some established concepts are quite strange to me
big_bass
you are correct about
which means the future priorities for puppyAll you lot seem to do is argue over petty little items like calculators etc or trying to dis-credit each other.
are very different. Personally I have a TI 85 calculator
that I trust and use for any real calculations
so if puppy has a calculator or not it wont get used by me anyway thats trivial nonsence I agree
if a practical simple calculator is needed now they can even be found in a dollar store next.....
icons are another thing that are not on my top ten list
they can be included in a pet package for who ever would like to use them *added on later and any fancy theme should never cause the window manager to become unstable
there are many talented artist here that already make pet packages you can add on later so this area is covered just fine and they can also be easily removed or updated at the authors discretion next...
It would be better to build on what you have, develop a central software repository
yes ,thats a valid point if puppy was based on an installed OS and it was just one version that grows
but every puppy iso has its own issues to sort out
which can take months of labor just sorting those issues out even for those who use puppy as their main OS
but since puppy is a live CD .. by design it is quickly outdated
now here's the good part
in the past this wasn't a problem
we *had (still have, but is shifting his focus on another project)
someone to just sort out these complex issues
and just do it
now most of the bickering here in the forum is self inflicted
if you walk into a room and start telling people
ok now I am running the show dont be surprised
to come up against resistance to say the least
or a tainted reputation
some people will hold their peace
others wont
so what you are seeing is really just a result
of a bad behavior pattern
If you all worked together you could have some fantastic product. This is proven by all the good advice and PET builds in the Forum.
why does that work now
because people do what they love to do
and support the version they love to use
that simple
and by making everything 100%
modular add what you want
to whatever version you want
we ALL do work together
and nobody is really in charge
a solution?
let open source be just that
open
free
and follow open source rules
that worked on so many other great projects
dont lock any forums
dont make a special puppy club of only a hand full of people you limit creativity
keep the door open you meet new friends
if two people work on a community edition
isnt that a puplet?
and shouldnt it be called so ?
some established concepts are quite strange to me
big_bass
I'm right with you there on most of that big_bass except the calculator part LOL! sure i trust my 86 but i don't keep in my back pocket all the time 
basically i think we are moving toward no official releases but yes on official base to build from at least hopefully anyway
there is WAY too much duplication on the part of tombh and leachim that just isn't getting into mainstream puppy in the video card detection area
basically i think we are moving toward no official releases but yes on official base to build from at least hopefully anyway
there is WAY too much duplication on the part of tombh and leachim that just isn't getting into mainstream puppy in the video card detection area
Taking Puppy Linux to the limit of perfection. meanwhile try "puppy pfix=duct_tape" kernel parem eater.
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Arch is _not based_ on CRUX.
And if pacman should be used, why then use Puppy. I am pretty sure pacman will give better performance on Arch than Puppy.
And if pacman should be used, why then use Puppy. I am pretty sure pacman will give better performance on Arch than Puppy.
@alcy
Thank you. I stand corrected. Original edited in the interest of accuracy.
Thank you. I stand corrected. Original edited in the interest of accuracy.
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Hi AJ
Good to see you still taking the usual active and provocative interest.
My $0.02 (for what it is worth as a user back to 0.8beta which never wanted to run without fun)
While 4.x is very nice with pretties and good usability I think the path has been lost somewhere along the line between what the "average" user wants and what the "community" badger for. I think package managers have their place.. but puppy already has one of sorts.. or is it?
Having had a TinyME machine morph into pclinux and get bogged down with bloat recently due to dependencies nightmares I don't really like the thought of using a major distros repos.. they will assume it is a normal release and either break everything or bloat it up with 50MB dependencies and the like. I didn't want KDE on TinyME.. but I got it because of some dependency from a media player!!
For me puppy is something I carry around to use in day to day investigations of hardware/connections/busted Microsoft machines...
I don't care if it is pretty, I just want it to work first time.. and that's why my small gripe about lspci and alien output..
Something happened in the graphics hardware packages from 3 to 4 as well. Systems which will run wonderfully on 3 black screen on 4.. I wonder why that is.
Firefox?.. nah.. I also prefer seamonkey for it's cleanliness and low overheads. I don't think following ubuntu into the world of USA restrictions and patents will be a step forwards.. especially as it seems to be driven by the "need" to have a particular browser.
Most of the other comments about what should and should not be included would be better served if the people who wanted them moved over to pclinux and it's derivatives. (which has them all already)
For me puppy has always been small and light. A minimal run from ram live distro to get things done on whatever hardware you are sitting looking at.
As for different architecture forks.. fine.. whatever.. 3 and 4 will run happily on amd64 machines and dual/quad intel things.. only oddballs like me have sparc, and we can always cobble our own together if we need to.
That's my bit.. I feel that for overall usability 3.13/4 were the best releases to date.. since then something has gone astray, though I can't quite put my finger on what. Sometimes looking back to what was very good, if not that polished and finding out why it was so good can be more productive than always driving forward regardless of the price. I get confused too by the pup and puplet packages.. Why is that so? Can't they all just be filed under "puppy packages" and leave it at that?
I want to be able to tell people "download puppy and give it a spin.. see if xxxx bit of hardware works properly and then get back to me".. which with 3.x I could do with confidence and with 4.x I'm not so sure... xorg seems to have issues.
Above all I think puppy should keep it's individuality.. merging into the larger distros because of available packages would be very sad, and would certainly lose the casual user and newbie alike.. Why use puppy when you may as well install XXXX the parent mainstream version? hehehehe.. sorry.. but true eh? Remember for every community member/forum poster there are probably 100 happy casual users like me who know what we are dong enough to make good use of the releases, test them and come to our own conclusions about functionality and ease of use for a particular situation and piece of hardware.
So what do I want?
A browser
Text editor
Media player (not for listening to music or watching films.. more to test said hardware works)
Wireless drivers (more than anything else.. good wireless hardware support.. dongles as well as onboard)
Easy to navigate menus where things stay under the same heading from release to release.. unless there is a very good reason for them to move... (damn you debian)
And above all.. user friendliness.. A nice simple"run live cd" or "install" at the very start would be nice.. and please pick one installation or the other. Either frugal or full.. but not both maybe? Most people I know balk at the boot options screen on startup.
That was supposed to be a few quick notes.. funny how once we get started it can go on and on.. Now guys, don't think in any way I'm being critical of puppy.. It's a great little distro. I just think sometimes it's most useful to hear the outsiders and casual users point of view on where things seem to be going and how the distro feels through it's many incarnations.
Good to see you still taking the usual active and provocative interest.
My $0.02 (for what it is worth as a user back to 0.8beta which never wanted to run without fun)
That is so very true. As a mainstream debian user I find ubuntu to be (honestly) a pretty big pile of doo doo. As a puppy user I like the way it's small and sleek (but what happened to lspci returning intelligible output) and will run on just about any old/new/broken/crashed hunk of junk I get called to look at with minimal fuss and bother.Brandon wrote: Ubuntu has a lot of packages, but we need to keep puppy itself. If puppy gets to much like Ubuntu, people will leave.
While 4.x is very nice with pretties and good usability I think the path has been lost somewhere along the line between what the "average" user wants and what the "community" badger for. I think package managers have their place.. but puppy already has one of sorts.. or is it?
Having had a TinyME machine morph into pclinux and get bogged down with bloat recently due to dependencies nightmares I don't really like the thought of using a major distros repos.. they will assume it is a normal release and either break everything or bloat it up with 50MB dependencies and the like. I didn't want KDE on TinyME.. but I got it because of some dependency from a media player!!
For me puppy is something I carry around to use in day to day investigations of hardware/connections/busted Microsoft machines...
I don't care if it is pretty, I just want it to work first time.. and that's why my small gripe about lspci and alien output..
Something happened in the graphics hardware packages from 3 to 4 as well. Systems which will run wonderfully on 3 black screen on 4.. I wonder why that is.
Firefox?.. nah.. I also prefer seamonkey for it's cleanliness and low overheads. I don't think following ubuntu into the world of USA restrictions and patents will be a step forwards.. especially as it seems to be driven by the "need" to have a particular browser.
Most of the other comments about what should and should not be included would be better served if the people who wanted them moved over to pclinux and it's derivatives. (which has them all already)
For me puppy has always been small and light. A minimal run from ram live distro to get things done on whatever hardware you are sitting looking at.
As for different architecture forks.. fine.. whatever.. 3 and 4 will run happily on amd64 machines and dual/quad intel things.. only oddballs like me have sparc, and we can always cobble our own together if we need to.
That's my bit.. I feel that for overall usability 3.13/4 were the best releases to date.. since then something has gone astray, though I can't quite put my finger on what. Sometimes looking back to what was very good, if not that polished and finding out why it was so good can be more productive than always driving forward regardless of the price. I get confused too by the pup and puplet packages.. Why is that so? Can't they all just be filed under "puppy packages" and leave it at that?
I want to be able to tell people "download puppy and give it a spin.. see if xxxx bit of hardware works properly and then get back to me".. which with 3.x I could do with confidence and with 4.x I'm not so sure... xorg seems to have issues.
Above all I think puppy should keep it's individuality.. merging into the larger distros because of available packages would be very sad, and would certainly lose the casual user and newbie alike.. Why use puppy when you may as well install XXXX the parent mainstream version? hehehehe.. sorry.. but true eh? Remember for every community member/forum poster there are probably 100 happy casual users like me who know what we are dong enough to make good use of the releases, test them and come to our own conclusions about functionality and ease of use for a particular situation and piece of hardware.
So what do I want?
A browser
Text editor
Media player (not for listening to music or watching films.. more to test said hardware works)
Wireless drivers (more than anything else.. good wireless hardware support.. dongles as well as onboard)
Easy to navigate menus where things stay under the same heading from release to release.. unless there is a very good reason for them to move... (damn you debian)
And above all.. user friendliness.. A nice simple"run live cd" or "install" at the very start would be nice.. and please pick one installation or the other. Either frugal or full.. but not both maybe? Most people I know balk at the boot options screen on startup.
That was supposed to be a few quick notes.. funny how once we get started it can go on and on.. Now guys, don't think in any way I'm being critical of puppy.. It's a great little distro. I just think sometimes it's most useful to hear the outsiders and casual users point of view on where things seem to be going and how the distro feels through it's many incarnations.
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Puppy 5 ish...
Well, as usual you've caught me napping on this one. Er, ah, well. No. A lot of what I read in the forum is brilliant but I see no real reason to suddenly jump revisions to please some number counter at distrowatch. While I've been intrigued by the Puppy variants basically what I want is something stable, that works.
I'd prefer if we stuck with the 4 series, and enhanced it, adding functionality and working out bugs. From a layman's point of view I believe the more we go astray as a group the more confusing it will be to anyone coming in. Don't confuse me more than I am already!
For those of you who can make your own Puppy variants (you guys are brilliant) it would be more useful to we remaining luddites if you could also develop packages which do x, which if loaded by users of the base Puppy 4.x package upgrade it to whatever functionality you've created/enhanced. Its a bit droll I know.
While Seamonkey may not be some people's cup of tea, it is a great little package that covers what I need. I'd hate to see it replaced. Puppy is not Ubuntu thank you!
Greg
I'd prefer if we stuck with the 4 series, and enhanced it, adding functionality and working out bugs. From a layman's point of view I believe the more we go astray as a group the more confusing it will be to anyone coming in. Don't confuse me more than I am already!
For those of you who can make your own Puppy variants (you guys are brilliant) it would be more useful to we remaining luddites if you could also develop packages which do x, which if loaded by users of the base Puppy 4.x package upgrade it to whatever functionality you've created/enhanced. Its a bit droll I know.
While Seamonkey may not be some people's cup of tea, it is a great little package that covers what I need. I'd hate to see it replaced. Puppy is not Ubuntu thank you!
Greg
@janrocks
Hey man! Good to see you again and thanks for the well thought out observations and passionate plea.
@multitude
Some good points have been raised. Bugman is well suited with 1.xx. A few of us are 2.xx devotees. BigBass and ttuuxxx thrive on 3.xx. And others like to walk barefoot across the vertical edge of razors that currently are 4.1 alphas, betas and RCs. Several things drive these personal decisions, one of which is hardware on hand.
The something that happened along the way janrocks mused about came around the time of the mini-laptops, or so it seems. Older kernels and Puppy releases didn't play well with newer boxes and boxettes.
And choices of kernels for a given distro version is not a cure all.
Sooner or later, someone is going to have to make a hard decision and decide where in the PC evolutionary line Puppy will start working and where it will end. And this "window" is akin to the cursor on a sliderule. As time moves on, so does the position of this "support and development cursor."
What's really sad is the mass dog-in-heat panting over new Puppy releases and so few interested in fixing, polishing and bullet-proofing an existing release.
Hey man! Good to see you again and thanks for the well thought out observations and passionate plea.
@multitude
Some good points have been raised. Bugman is well suited with 1.xx. A few of us are 2.xx devotees. BigBass and ttuuxxx thrive on 3.xx. And others like to walk barefoot across the vertical edge of razors that currently are 4.1 alphas, betas and RCs. Several things drive these personal decisions, one of which is hardware on hand.
The something that happened along the way janrocks mused about came around the time of the mini-laptops, or so it seems. Older kernels and Puppy releases didn't play well with newer boxes and boxettes.
And choices of kernels for a given distro version is not a cure all.
Sooner or later, someone is going to have to make a hard decision and decide where in the PC evolutionary line Puppy will start working and where it will end. And this "window" is akin to the cursor on a sliderule. As time moves on, so does the position of this "support and development cursor."
What's really sad is the mass dog-in-heat panting over new Puppy releases and so few interested in fixing, polishing and bullet-proofing an existing release.
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I've always figured that the series was short lived, Shouldn't it had Gslapt installed by default? Also when Gslapt was installed and you selected update all packages, it would cripple the system, finding out what incompatibilities still were missing and had them fixed would of been one step closer to bullet-proofing it. Maybe a hybrid package manager?
Series 4.0 I found was mostly compatible with Ubuntu Gutsy same glibC plus qt4 can use qt3 applications.
Never had a crash trying out Gutsy packages on puppy 4.0
Maybe move closer ?
One one the things that using these version with the latest software is that the compilers are dated, and need a few updates also, A lot of times when I'm compiling I get a error screen about version too old and please update. To resurrect any of the older version, the first step would be updating the Devx wireless networking, screen resolution for small Laptops .
Updating the 3 series would be a great start, maybe to 12.1 Slackware
ttuuxxx
Series 4.0 I found was mostly compatible with Ubuntu Gutsy same glibC plus qt4 can use qt3 applications.
Never had a crash trying out Gutsy packages on puppy 4.0
Maybe move closer ?
One one the things that using these version with the latest software is that the compilers are dated, and need a few updates also, A lot of times when I'm compiling I get a error screen about version too old and please update. To resurrect any of the older version, the first step would be updating the Devx wireless networking, screen resolution for small Laptops .
Updating the 3 series would be a great start, maybe to 12.1 Slackware
ttuuxxx
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
You really know how i am feeling now... I would like to see some work/fixes done in 2.14 R reflected in 2.16 and 2.17, even some 2.16 CE additions/changes made by tronkel could be good (the long long waited CE release).alienjeff wrote: @multitude
....Several things drive these personal decisions, one of which is hardware on hand.
What's really sad is the mass dog-in-heat panting over new Puppy releases and so few interested in fixing, polishing and bullet-proofing an existing release.
In some way i feel like i lose the product live support in my Puppy... When i feel like it, sometimes i search for my Puppy Service Pack but i can´t find it...
Hey alienjeff
the most important thing to fixing anything is good documentation and well written comments in code
or else it all becomes a big plate of sticky over cooked Spaghetti code
so my request is a modular approach everything in pet packages
all fixes compared to the official version
completely documented in a change log
all added packages in puplets have the *.files so you can track down everything that was installed
all tweaks well documented
and a goal to create a rock solid stable version
or why not all a stable 2.13----4.?????????? then take your pick
big_bass
you should have version 2.12 bullet proofed and missile proofed by nowPuppy releases and so few interested in fixing, polishing and bullet-proofing an existing release.
the most important thing to fixing anything is good documentation and well written comments in code
or else it all becomes a big plate of sticky over cooked Spaghetti code
so my request is a modular approach everything in pet packages
all fixes compared to the official version
completely documented in a change log
all added packages in puplets have the *.files so you can track down everything that was installed
all tweaks well documented
and a goal to create a rock solid stable version
or why not all a stable 2.13----4.?????????? then take your pick
big_bass
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updates are great, but should they have a new format like "mut" the reason why, it would make it easier to find, Plus it could have a separate routine, Like every time the puppy package manager sees a "mut" file it search to see if a earlier one was previously installed, then it automatically uninstalls it and installs the new fix/patch? you can't just have a patch, patchig a patch, could lead to some sort of file corruption, maybe some sort of code included in the name like networkupdate-0004-v.01big_bass wrote:Hey alienjeff
you should have version 2.12 bullet proofed and missile proofed by nowPuppy releases and so few interested in fixing, polishing and bullet-proofing an existing release.
the most important thing to fixing anything is good documentation and well written comments in code
or else it all becomes a big plate of sticky over cooked Spaghetti code
so my request is a modular approach everything in pet packages
all fixes compared to the official version
completely documented in a change log
all added packages in puplets have the *.files so you can track down everything that was installed
all tweaks well documented
and a goal to create a rock solid stable version
or why not all a stable 2.13----4.?????????? then take your pick
big_bass
and the next would be networkupdate-0004-v.02, when you install mut it sees a common 4 digit number and uninstalls 0004-01
then installs 0004-02
ttuuxxx
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I was thinking about puppy 1.08 and went to download, but I didn't see the devx compiler anywhere? Anybody know where I might find this?
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
ttuuxxx im pretty sure puppy was using cramfs back then... so it wouldn't be an sfs i don't think that has been a while back most of the older stuff is on caneri's server at least what is still around
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http://puppyisos.org/isos/Puppylinux-of ... velopment/
user: puppy
password: linux
mirror:
http://puptrix.org/isos/Puppylinux-offi ... velopment/
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user: puppy
password: linux
mirror:
http://puptrix.org/isos/Puppylinux-offi ... velopment/
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hmm maybe we already did have sfs support back then.... i thought we didn't get sfs support untill 2.x
Taking Puppy Linux to the limit of perfection. meanwhile try "puppy pfix=duct_tape" kernel parem eater.
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Sun: SS2 , LX , SS5 , SS10 , SS20 ,Ultra 1, Ultra 10 , T2000
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X86: Sager NP6110 3630QM 16GB ram, Tyan Thunder 2 2x 300Mhz
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yes, see megapup:cb88 wrote:hmm maybe we already did have sfs support back then.... i thought we didn't get sfs support untill 2.x
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=6771
There were 2 addons supported I think, usr_devx.sfs and usr_more.sfs.
The links are no longer valid, I will update them on request.
I think there still are some mirrors left.
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I allways wanted to try out megapup but i didn't have the bandwidth to download it on....
perhaps if another megapup is made the sfs could be easier to find and download..
actually maybe it wasn't megapup2 but the later one i couldn't figure out i think it used an install script and downloaded the usr_more.sfs in parts or something like that
perhaps if another megapup is made the sfs could be easier to find and download..
actually maybe it wasn't megapup2 but the later one i couldn't figure out i think it used an install script and downloaded the usr_more.sfs in parts or something like that
Taking Puppy Linux to the limit of perfection. meanwhile try "puppy pfix=duct_tape" kernel parem eater.
X86: Sager NP6110 3630QM 16GB ram, Tyan Thunder 2 2x 300Mhz
Sun: SS2 , LX , SS5 , SS10 , SS20 ,Ultra 1, Ultra 10 , T2000
Mac: Platinum Plus, SE/30
X86: Sager NP6110 3630QM 16GB ram, Tyan Thunder 2 2x 300Mhz
Sun: SS2 , LX , SS5 , SS10 , SS20 ,Ultra 1, Ultra 10 , T2000
Mac: Platinum Plus, SE/30
What distresses me about Puppy, my favourite distro, is the way all the "developers" are too busy to fix the bugs in released version, because they are fully occupied writing new ones. You've heard me moan about this one before: my printer is not supported by Gutenprint, so I use a driver from the manufacturer. Abiword won't print. In series 2 and in 301, I can use Ted, which prints. In series 4 Ted is not available, but I can use Open Office, which does print (But is so slooooow...). In Debian, Abiword does print, so it's specific to Puppy.
On the other hand... one of the good things about Puppy is the way so many people get into it, and produce loads of variants- is this a property of the way Puppy was conceived?
And we have one of the best, liveliest, most helpful (despite a bit of bitching now and again) forums.
I ask myself now and again- is Puppy a distro to use, or to play with?
Gerry
On the other hand... one of the good things about Puppy is the way so many people get into it, and produce loads of variants- is this a property of the way Puppy was conceived?
And we have one of the best, liveliest, most helpful (despite a bit of bitching now and again) forums.
I ask myself now and again- is Puppy a distro to use, or to play with?
Gerry
@aj: You know dude---since you & I kissed and made up I can't find anything at all to argue about with you anymore! LOL! And your last comment to "JanRocks" I believe his nick was on page 5 (can't even remember a nick to the next page! Sheesh!) were spot on! As we're HIS by the way.
You both expressed my thoughts and sentiments so well that... well... there's just nothing left for me to add to the discussion!
Right on the both of you!
Oh yeah! And I agree with Yorkie about SeaMonkey---even though I realise it's not the most popular of browsers found in Puppy at this time. But it's always served me well, especially when you consider one programme holds ALL my basic apps used through the biggest part of my day.
Later folks!
Amicalement/Cheers!
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
You both expressed my thoughts and sentiments so well that... well... there's just nothing left for me to add to the discussion!
Right on the both of you!
Oh yeah! And I agree with Yorkie about SeaMonkey---even though I realise it's not the most popular of browsers found in Puppy at this time. But it's always served me well, especially when you consider one programme holds ALL my basic apps used through the biggest part of my day.
Later folks!
Amicalement/Cheers!
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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Proud user of LXpup and 3-Headed Dog.
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Proud user of LXpup and 3-Headed Dog.
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