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this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?

As the problems I had were so weird and as I didn't find a md5sum to verify if the download was done correctly, I decided to download again.

Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.

But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.

I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.

I rebuilt busybox from master with almost allyesconfig and have set up a pinstall.sh that will only make symlinks if the program is not installed in the executable path... so if you have a program installed you will need to move it out of your path (so which cannot find it) prior to installation if you want to test the busybox version (although I configured busybox with the ability to install itself via busbox --install -s , I used a pinstall.sh script to do it manually in case programs are installed to non-default locations - when tar is configured with --prefix=/usr for example)

If anyone would like to test it for dpkg or others it also provides the following:

• [, [[, acpid, addgroup, adduser, adjtimex, ar, arp, arping, ash, awk,
  basename, bbconfig, beep, blkid, brctl, bunzip2, bzcat, bzip2, cal,
  cat, catv, chat, chattr, chgrp, chmod, chown, chpasswd, chpst, chroot,
  chrt, chvt, cksum, clear, cmp, comm, cp, cpio, crond, crontab, cryptpw,
  cttyhack, cut, date, dc, dd, deallocvt, delgroup, deluser, depmod,
  devfsd, devmem, df, dhcprelay, diff, dirname, dmesg, dnsd,
  dnsdomainname, dos2unix, dpkg, dpkg-deb, du, dumpkmap, dumpleases,
  echo, ed, egrep, eject, env, envdir, envuidgid, ether-wake, expand,
  expr, fakeidentd, false, fbset, fbsplash, fdflush, fdformat, fdisk,
  fgrep, find, findfs, flash_eraseall, flash_lock, flash_unlock, flashcp,
  fold, free, freeramdisk, fsck, fsck.minix, fsync, ftpd, ftpget, ftpput,
  fuser, getopt, getty, grep, gunzip, gzip, halt, hd, hdparm, head,
  hexdump, hostid, hostname, httpd, hush, hwclock, id, ifconfig, ifdown,
  ifenslave, ifplugd, ifup, inetd, init, inotifyd, insmod, install,
  ionice, ip, ipaddr, ipcalc, ipcrm, ipcs, iplink, iproute, iprule,
  iptunnel, kbd_mode, kill, killall, killall5, klogd, lash, last, length,
  less, linux32, linux64, linuxrc, ln, loadfont, loadkmap, logger, login,
  logname, logread, losetup, lpd, lpq, lpr, ls, lsattr, lsmod, lspci,
  lsusb, lzmacat, lzop, lzopcat, makedevs, makemime, man, md5sum, mdev,
  mesg, microcom, mkdir, mkdosfs, mke2fs, mkfifo, mkfs.ext2, mkfs.minix,
  mkfs.reiser, mkfs.vfat, mknod, mkpasswd, mkswap, mktemp, modprobe,
  more, mount, mountpoint, msh, mt, mv, nameif, nc, netstat, nice,
  nmeter, nohup, nslookup, ntpd, od, openvt, passwd, patch, pgrep, pidof,
  ping, ping6, pipe_progress, pivot_root, pkill, popmaildir, poweroff,
  printenv, printf, ps, pscan, pwd, raidautorun, rdate, rdev, readahead,
  readlink, readprofile, realpath, reboot, reformime, renice, reset,
  resize, rm, rmdir, rmmod, route, rpm, rpm2cpio, rtcwake, run-parts,
  runlevel, runsv, runsvdir, rx, script, scriptreplay, sed, sendmail,
  seq, setarch, setconsole, setfont, setkeycodes, setlogcons, setsid,
  setuidgid, sh, sha1sum, sha256sum, sha512sum, showkey, slattach, sleep,
  softlimit, sort, split, start-stop-daemon, stat, strings, stty, su,
  sulogin, sum, sv, svlogd, swapoff, swapon, switch_root, sync, sysctl,
  syslogd, tac, tail, tar, taskset, tcpsvd, tee, telnet, telnetd, test,
  tftp, tftpd, time, timeout, top, touch, tr, traceroute, traceroute6,
  true, tty, ttysize, tunctl, tune2fs, udhcpc, udhcpd, udpsvd, umount,
  uname, uncompress, unexpand, uniq, unix2dos, unlzma, unlzop, unzip,
  uptime, usleep, uudecode, uuencode, vconfig, vi, vlock, volname, wall,
  watch, watchdog, wc, wget, which, who, whoami, xargs, yes, zcat, zcip

However only these will be installed:

• acpid, adjtimex, arp, arping, bbconfig, beep, brctl, catv, chpasswd, chpst, chrt, cryptpw, cttyhack, devfsd, devmem, dhcprelay, dnsdomainname, dpkg, dumpleases, envdir, envuidgid, ether-wake, fakeidentd, FALSE, fbsplash, flashcp, flash_eraseall, flash_lock, flash_unlock, fsync, ftpd, httpd, hush, ifenslave, inetd, ionice, ipcrm, ipcs, kbd_mode, killall5, lash, length, linux32, linux64, lpd, lsusb, lzmacat, lzop, lzopcat, makemime, mdev, microcom, mkfs.reiser, mkpasswd, mountpoint, msh, mt, nmeter, ntpd, pgrep, pkill, popmaildir, printenv, pscan, raidautorun, readahead, readprofile, reformime, resize, rtcwake, run-parts, runsv, runsvdir, rx, script, scriptreplay, sendmail, setarch, setconsole, setlogcons, setuidgid, sha1sum, slattach, softlimit, start-stop-daemon, sum, sv, svlogd, taskset, tcpsvd, telnetd, tftpd, traceroute6, TRUE, ttysize, tunctl, udhcpc, udhcpd, udpsvd, unexpand, unlzop, vconfig, vi, wall, watch, watchdog, who, zcip

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Béèm wrote:As the problems I had were so weird and as I didn't find a md5sum to verify if the download was done correctly, I decided to download again.

Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.

But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.

I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.

So I got the panel to create a save file this time.
But when I rebooted, only the trash had the correct icons. The others surrounding not. Another incident to be made so.

Hi technosaurus,
Using Stardust-012, I converted my pupsave-431_2.2fs to 3fs and modified the initrd.gz file so that the pupsave-431_2.3fs will mount properly as a journaled file system on my ext3 partition. They are working great. I hope that you are considering having options to create pupsaves as 2/3/4fs with the corresponding changes to the initrd.gz so they will mount properly as journaled file systems on ext3/4.

Thanks,
Jim

I haven't taken a look at the code for creating the [2-4]fs files, (I think Barry already patched init for ext4 in woof)
the empty *fs files gzip down to next to nothing if I recall, so maybe it would be better to have a gzipped version of each so they could be available at startup rather than having to create them afterwards?

now that kernel 2.6.33 is out ext4 will likely be default, since now you can use the ext4 driver for ext2 and ext3 filesystems

Jim1911 wrote:Hi technosaurus,
Using Stardust-012, I converted my pupsave-431_2.2fs to 3fs and modified the initrd.gz file so that the pupsave-431_2.3fs will mount properly as a journaled file system on my ext3 partition. They are working great. I hope that you are considering having options to create pupsaves as 2/3/4fs with the corresponding changes to the initrd.gz so they will mount properly as journaled file systems on ext3/4.

Thanks,
Jim

Having read that 3fs was better I did a test with a dpup 484beta4 save file and converted the 2fs to 3fs.
I wasn't aware that a change in the initrd.gz was needed maybe.
After a moment of operating thus, I still had the issue of the save file not cleanly unmounted for that 3fs.

Is this due to the fact the initrd.gz wasn't changed?
What is there to be changed?

What is the md5sum of the iso please?

Jim1911 wrote:So far this distribution has been very stable, although right now it is hard to distinguish it from Stardust-011.

Problems noted:
1. Drive icons do not show up on the desktop, although appropriate boxes are selected using the Control Center.
2. Only generic icons are showing for file, my_links, and Drives on the Desktop. The trash icon is correct.

Please consider adding the capability to Mouse/Keyboard Settings in the Puppy Control Center, an option to turn the NumLock key on/off.

Thanks,
Jim

I have the same issue about the desktop icons in the upper left corner.
To be reported in the bug tracker?

Could it be considered to include SeaMonkey 2.0.3 instead of 1.1.18?

Béèm wrote:Is this due to the fact the initrd.gz wasn't changed?
What is there to be changed?

To modify init to mount the pupsave-3fs properly, I use the following technique shared by Mikeb.
1. Unpack initrd.gz and open the init file with your text editor.
2. Search for -t ext2 this will pick up the commands where pup_save gets mounted as -t ext2 and you change it to -t ext3. In the init files that I have edited (pup431, pup432, dpup, upup, Lighthouse, and Stardust), there have been only three instances to change.
3. Repack the new initrd.gz and copy it to the proper location.

Boot your pup and use the mount command to confirm that the 3fs is mounted properly.

More information about how to unpack and repack the initrd.gz is here.

Jim1911 wrote:

Béèm wrote:Is this due to the fact the initrd.gz wasn't changed?
What is there to be changed?

To modify init to mount the pupsave-3fs properly, I use the following technique shared by Mikeb.
1. Unpack initrd.gz and open the init file with your text editor.
2. Search for -t ext2 this will pick up the commands where pup_save gets mounted as -t ext2 and you change it to -t ext3. In the init files that I have edited (pup431, pup432, dpup, upup, Lighthouse, and Stardust), there have been only three instances to change.
3. Repack the new initrd.gz and copy it to the proper location.

Boot your pup and use the mount command to confirm that the 3fs is mounted properly.

More information about how to unpack and repack the initrd.gz is here.

Thank you Jim1911

abushcrafter

It seems Google code operates a standard checksum facility which uses SHA1 checksums (a standard inbuilt Linux checksum - although I couldn't get it in Puppy!).

If one gets the download by going here:
http://code.google.com/p/puppy-developm ... loads/list

Find the file to download and click on ANY info EXCEPT the file name. You will be taken to a page which shows the SHA1 checksum.

For pup-431-2.iso it is shown as:
56773f186be134a509f6e6e29a530d72c84a380b

All you need now is to get the sha1sum utility. As I said it appears not to be in Puppy. Me - I just went to the command line in Knoppix.

Thanks. Puppy comes with GTKHash which does MD5 and SHA1 sums.

abushcrafter

Thanks for the info re GTKHash. I see it on the menu now.

I was looking for sha1sum in the past because that was supposed to be an inbuilt linux command line tool.

ICPUG wrote:abushcrafter

Thanks for the info re GTKHash. I see it on the menu now.

I was looking for sha1sum in the past because that was supposed to be an inbuilt linux command line tool.

some puppies don't have Gtkhash, but you can get it from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=32700

and since Gtkhash I've switched to ghash its smaller and faster
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 415#372415
ttuuxxx

technosaurus,
this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?
searchmonkey-0.8.1-i486.pet

This is the one I like.

Refer you to Barry's Blog;

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01269

bigpup wrote:

technosaurus,
this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?
searchmonkey-0.8.1-i486.pet

This is the one I like.

Refer you to Barry's Blog;

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01269

Yes I like also, it did have a few crashing issues with some 5 series I think it was last year. But its stable on 2.14X. and 4 series
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?t=41486
ttuuxxx

Just gave 4.4 a whirl.

I like it.

As noted on the stardust thread, some of the icons in the upper bar disappear when the green background color is selected. It may be possible to outline the icons with a contrasting color (as subtitles are done now days).

The bright yellow background with white letters was blinding (petget). At the very least it should come with a warning.

Xorg worked like the other puppies, I haven't tried vesa yet.

The widget analog clock never displayed.

I like having some doc files included. It helps when working with newbies like me.

I do have a suggestion. People frequently call me to ask what a particular pet does when they are using petget. Is it possible to add a description for future pets?

Also, is it possible to add different backgrounds to the different desktops? I get lost sometimes.

k

abiword updated for spell check... this time built with goffice, gfs and gio as dependencies for interoperability with gnumeric 1.10.0

the main binary is so large because of the many builtin plugins

• --enable-builtin-plugins="applix babelfish bmp clarisworks docbook eml freetranslation gdict gimp google hancom hrtext iscii kword latex loadbindings mif opendocument openwriter openxml opml paint passepartout pdb pdf presentation s5 sdw t602 urldict wikipedia wml xslfo"
  
  --enable-plugins="aiksaurus collab garble goffice grammar mht ots psion wmf wordperfect wpg mswrite"
  Aside from aiksaurus, these were built against their corresponding static libs because nothing else