(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Hi

As it was not possible for me in the last time to work easily with Puppy any more, I did not visit this forum as often as in the past and did ignore the existence of this discussion...

only a automatic forum email did remember me on this discussion

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51091

and I did continue in it.

you will find in the first message on it different observations concerning Quirky (bug in the instant messenger? why Seamonkey 1.1.18 as Seamonkey 2.0 works well ? what is it with AbiWord and "CLT languages"... older versions of AbiWord did work very well with CLT languages. the newest not! missing library for skype etc.)

salut

Installed SNS in dpup484beta4

I got my wireless card configured right away without hassle.
Nice little applet.

Béèm wrote:Installed SNS in dpup484beta4

I got my wireless card configured right away without hassle.
Nice little applet.

If to be used on a non-experimental PC, but one used daily for school or work, which would be the better choice for completeness and stability?

dpup484beta4
quirky008
Lighthouse Pup 4.43G

Hi

In my opinion Turbopup Xtrm 4.2

But Quirky is excellent!

Bye

Great distro BarryK!

I've distro hopped a number of puplets over the past 6 months or so and really like Quirky, it's obvious it's well thought out and runs very smooth with no xorg problems or shutdown errors. Nice selection of packages.
I used the Network Wizard to connect, the Pwireles2 method didn't seem to work for me using WEP (although it may just be that I'm not familiar with it.)

I immediately added Xfce desktop environment and it's working flawlessly.
Opera 10.10 installed and works great.

Tried Compiz and it works but has some problems with pointer and window top bar (no Minimize, Exit etc).

I'm using Quirky as my main OS now and it's the best pup yet!
Thanks for all the hard work you've done on it, it's appreciated!

edoc wrote:

Béèm wrote:Installed SNS in dpup484beta4

I got my wireless card configured right away without hassle.
Nice little applet.

If to be used on a non-experimental PC, but one used daily for school or work, which would be the better choice for completeness and stability?

dpup484beta4
quirky008
Lighthouse Pup 4.43G

dpup is still beta
In quirky008 is a quirk.
I don't know lighthouse.

Béèm wrote:Installed SNS in dpup484beta4

I got my wireless card configured right away without hassle.
Nice little applet.

Not sure if it is a sns issue, as I have the same with the network wizard in dpup.

Sometimes the wireless device is recognized as eth0 sometimes as eth1

Hello BarryK,
Thought I`d give Quirky-008 at test run, if not on the intended (netbook) type of machine
Test machine: Compaq board i82810 chipset, Intel P3 600 "coppermine" processor,
384mb pc100 RAM, onboard i810 video 16mb vram, Maestro3 "Allegro" soundcard, Lite-ON LNE100TX Ethernet
Broadcom PCI "Air-Force" BCM43XX Wireless, 2gb Swap Partition..
Frugal install Quirky-008, grub boot...
Very fast boot, a few seconds pause at depmod, but I swear the configuration scripts ran much faster than Puppy`s normally do..??
Network: autodetection for etho worked fine, Seamonkey came up connected..
Wireless: connection scanned and connected DHCP, uncommon for this card..Nice...
Gnome/Mplayer: Tested avi, mpg, rm, All played great..Fullscreen worked fine on all formats.
Seamonkey: Flash worked fine, as did flashblock..Youtube fullscreen is a bit choppy, but my vidcard sux so...
Ayttm, Abiword, Mtpaint, Geany, Nico, All the "P`s" ect all work fine.
Package manager works fine, but for Quirky, needs to default to ibiblio??
Alsa worked fine, after a pause for upping to depmod-full..
Cute icons..I was getting used to the "test" monochrome ones!!
PupRadio and PupTelly.. (Yea, thats pretty much where I was going
All in all, very nimble and everything works so far..
I will get back..

@ edoc,
Yes, Quirky and DPup are still experimental...
Although I havent tried the latest yet, Tazoc`s Lighthouse Versions are generally very complete, stable Puplets.. IDK about the KDE side, as I detest KDE...But they are very thorough and well thought out..( 1 of my converts has been running a full install of Lighthouse215 for 2 years now, and it still runs fine..)
If you have stability questions about a puplet, read through its forum thread, that will tell you a lot...

Edit:, Now I see the KDE4 in your link...
Lighthouse is KDE now so might be even a better fit for you..

EDIT: /usr/sbin/ipinfo connects to icanhazip.com to get one's publicly seen ip address. Found this after blacklisting the 174.143.240.31 and "detailed network interface information" would then hang. Solved

Just a curiosity

Whenever I press the "detailed network interface information" button, a connection is automatically made to:
# netstat -tu
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
tcp 0 0 192.168.254.2:35574 dfw.mhtx.net:www TIME_WAIT
# netstat -tn
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
tcp 0 0 192.168.254.2:35574 174.143.240.31:80 TIME_WAIT

This ip can also be seen under the statistics tab. Anybody else have this happen?

Also, domain line in resolv.conf contains binary data. See /var/run/dhcpcd/resolv.conf. Another curiosity, as everything works fine.

I couldn't find the ctrl-interface socket for wpa_supplicant in /var/run. Using WPA2 on ath5k

Edit:, Now I see the KDE4 in your link... Embarassed
Lighthouse is KDE now so might be even a better fit for you..

It's actually KD4E, perhaps not so well fit ...

Not sure about KDE myself as I like leaner and meaner ... but my son needs somehtng well-suited for audio and video editing and lots of Internet access which involves graphics, and a solid office suite for online college courses.

We have Audacity and OxygenOffice and some other extras loaded on top of 4.31 but I am looking ahead to the imminent next generation.

Hmmmmm.

edoc wrote:If to be used on a non-experimental PC, but one used daily for school or work, which would be the better choice for completeness and stability?
dpup484beta4
quirky008
Lighthouse Pup 4.43G

Without question, Lighthouse 4.43F is the best choice since it is in a final stable release, it's fpllowon G should be out soon. Although, the other two are fine even though not final.

Quirky 008 freezes at xorg config (black screen) on my dell 700m,
Intel 855gm video.
It's happened with a few other Quirkies too.

Quirky 008 (from a mini DVD-RW burned, and the burn confirmed, with burniso2cd) hangs at "Recognising media devices... optical input_".
I don't know if optical input means the DVD drive or what. Other Puppys have booted many times from this same mini DVD-RW disk.

The motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H. The DVD drive is an HP dvd1040.

sns1.pet in 431 pupdail, usb cable to mobilephone finds modem and connects ok.
gui is an improvement. still no bluetooth to phone modem connection though.

Here is the next iteration of my Simple Network Setup, attached.

I have added support for Ndiswrapper, however I don't yet have it working properly. Sometimes I can connect, sometimes not -- however, the Network Wizard connects everytime.

...that part at least needs more work!

I also added code to retry with different values for ap_scan.

Oh, I forgot. Quirky 008 (and 009) is missing ndiswrapper.ko. Gunzip it somewhere, like /lib/modules/2.6.33-git7/misc, then run 'depmod', then run 'sns'.

Hi Barry

Doing what I can here...

SNS-2 goes through the motions fine with ndiswrapper for me. However it trips at the last hurdle. It just wont connect. After I hit 'connect' nothing (apart from xmessage) happens for about 30 seconds and then I get the fail screen, rebooted 3 or 4 times. Should I expect to see blinky while trying to find an IP? The log looks fine, as do the other files in /tmp

Network wizard was the same. Scans, finds, can save, tests ok, but just won't connect..

Leaving pwireless2... connected! But, if I start with Pwireless2 I get nowhere.

Ah well, at least I can get online ok. Not bad for an old p3 600, and the connection seems stable too, I am at least 18metres from the router and it is going through a few fibro walls as well.

Cheers.

I'm having more problems with SNS v2 than had with v1. I've done something wrong somewhere. Will make a fresh start in the morning, see if I can track down the problem.

So, there will be another version out soon...

Installed Quirky on a (Mini)Sd flash card with a USB-HD setting (BootFlash USB installer); now, this PC (Biostar M7VIW, Athlon XP 1800) won't boot from it if the BIOS's first boot device is set to a USB-HD, but boots fine setting it to a USB-ZIP drive (!?). Same problem with the keyboard layout as described in my previous post, page 3.

Hadn't immediately realized that the purple message at startup, announcing the machine's IP, means that the connection is automatically configured and ready - should read the docs sometime... Cool, Quirky is on a par with other tiny distros featuring this (but generally not much more); a nice gift Barry!

I am now releasing Simple Network Setup version 2.1.

This fixes a couple of killer bugs.

One of them was that I could not get WPA working with ndiswrapper, for my Netgear wg311 card. Then I read something weird posted by an Arch developer (see at bottom of page);

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant

01micko has been very helpful (and very patient), testing my releases of SNS. He has sent me pms, and he mentioned doing something somewhat like the Arch guy did.

So, I tried something like that too, and amazing, ndiswrapper worked. It also worked at bootup, however there is something strange about that, and I will need feedback from other that their ndiswrapper works with WPA both when SNS is run and at a reboot.

There were a couple of other issues that I fixed.

I need to warn again about this package. It has /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and rc.shutdown, which might break an older Puppy. Any recent Woof-build will be ok.

Note also, I posted ndiswrapper.ko to this thread, as Quirky 008 (and 009) does not have it.

I did a quick little sanity test. Built a Quirky with Woof, placed it on a USB stick, booted up my Acer Aspire One netbook, ran Simple Network Setup, was online, so easy. Rebooted, and of course created a pupsave, up she came, online. Oh joy!