Quirky 1.0 feedback

[looseSCREWorTWO]

Brilliant.
First OS (Linux, Windows or Apple) that has set up my Huawei Wireless USB Modem in 30 seconds, with four mouse-clicks. Writing this now from first boot-up, haven't even made a Save file yet. So far everything works (fast) out of the box. I like the uncluttered Desktop.

Hardware used for this test:
2002 Acer Desktop, Pentium 4, 768mb RAM, 80gb HDD.

A question was asked in Thread below. Will Quirky's Gparted be able to format large (1tb) Hard Disks? Versions of Gparted used in earlier Puppies are reported as being unable to do so. This is the thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=55022

Congratulations to everyone involved in making Quirky!!! Will now test on my prehistoric Pentium 3 laptop and report back.

[gerry]

@rcrsn51- fixed it. Problem seems to be that the driver package contains drivers and associated ppd files for several printers. The ppd files are what cups uses to draw up the printer model selection table. But cups seems to be a bit picky about which ones to include in the list, and did not include the correct one (and others). So, without engaging brain too much, I chose what looked like the nearest one (note 1), which did not have a driver to go with it, so "child process aborted". Got round the difficulty by entering the ppd address manually in the slot at the bottom, and off it went.

Note 1: there isn't one for the i965, have to choose a likely one anyway- i950 best.

EDIT: so to summarise the problem,

/usr/share/cups/model/ contains all the ppd's, but cups does not include all of them in the list of available printers.

Still trying to work out why...

gerry

[Béèm]

This RX600 Epson printer with embedded scanner is connected through USB.

I had to scan and started xsane to look at a USB device.
The printer wasn't seen.

With CUPS I configures the RX600 as printer which went ok.

Tried again for scanning, but same result. The scanner part isn't found.

Would there be a cure?
(PS. didn't tried this in earlier quirkies.)

[stu90]

can anyone help - how do i go about disabling the default fbpanel?

[rcrsn51]

@Béèm: The SANE driver package in Puppy/Quirky recognizes some Epson scanners, but it looks like your RX600 is not one of them. However, Epson supplies its own driver called epkowa.

Read here.. There are two packages to try - one by me and a larger one by jamesbond.

The packages will need a bit of modification. They contain the file /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4, which is actually a symlink to /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3.7.4. However in Quirky, the new version is libtiff.so.3.8.2, so you will need to change this.

Let me know if it works. If not, I can try repackaging it for Quirky.

[looseSCREWorTWO]

Have installed Quirky to HDD and all seems to be working OK. Only one mystery: the first HDD boot generated an error message file (filename fsckme.err) which appears to relate to the encrypted save file I'm using. Copy of error message file attached.

[rcrsn51]

I've seen that file too. I wish it was named something less suggestive.

[rjbrewer]

Have installed Quirky to HDD and all seems to be working OK. Only one mystery: the first HDD boot generated an error message file (filename fsckme.err) which appears to relate to the encrypted save file I'm using. Copy of error message file attached.

That means file system check is working. (it's a good thing)

[Sylvander]

Quirky-100
Running from CD-RW, with [1GB] quirkysave.3fs file on [1.25GB] partition on a USB Flash Drive.

1. Installed 13 items.
Everything "just worked", EXCEPT...

2.
(a) Installed Pwidgets-2.0.8 using the PPM, and it didn't behave well, so uninstalled it, and...

(b) Installed Pwidgets-2.2.7 got on the Puppy forums, and that seems to be working well.

3. How should I configure black menus?

[Béèm]

@Béèm: The SANE driver package in Puppy/Quirky recognizes some Epson scanners, but it looks like your RX600 is not one of them. However, Epson supplies its own driver called epkowa.

Read here.. There are two packages to try - one by me and a larger one by jamesbond.

The packages will need a bit of modification. They contain the file /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4, which is actually a symlink to /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3.7.4. However in Quirky, the new version is libtiff.so.3.8.2, so you will need to change this.

Let me know if it works. If not, I can try repackaging it for Quirky.

Thank you for the advice. I will look into that route.
I now tried in Lucid 115 also and the scanner works.
Would it eventually be possible to copy the needed files from Lucid 115 to Q 100?
Well I suppose the epkowa.tar.gz takes care of this.

[rcrsn51]

I now tried in Lucid 115 also and the scanner works.

It sounds like the scanner package that Lupu got from Ubuntu is more comprehensive than Quirky's

Would it eventually be possible to copy the needed files from Lucid 115 to Q 100?

Yes, but it would be a little tricky determining which ones belong to the epkowa driver.

[rcrsn51]

Installed 13 items.

Could you please list them for the benefit of other users?

[upnorth]

@stu90 in .xinitrc, line 146 here, you could try commenting out whole thing or substitute some other panel.

Code: Select all

#v3.95 support fbpanel tray/taskbar...
#only launch tray for w.m. without inbuilt tray...
if [ "$CURRENTWM" != "jwm" -a "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm" ];then
 if [ -f /usr/bin/fbpanel ];then

  [ ! -e /var/local/icons/home48.png ] && ln -fs /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/* /var/local/icons/
  fbpanel &
 fi
 [ -f /usr/bin/lxpanel ] && lxpanel &
fi

[jrb]

see here for some tips to get jwm going with the tray applets.

There is a focus setting in jwm that you can change I think.

Good call on both Micko.

Your applet fix worked great and changing line 359 of /root/.jwmrc from

Code: Select all

<FocusModel>sloppy</FocusModel>

to

Code: Select all

<FocusModel>click</FocusModel>

solved the windows "autoswitch" problem.

Thanks a lot, J

[Sylvander]

"Could you please list them for the benefit of other users?"

Quirky-100
Installed items:
[In the order installed]

1. fox-1.6.31
2. xfe-1.19.2
3. verifypet
4. firefox-3.6
5. flashplayer10-10.0.42.34
6. smm-1.0rc1
7. MuppyQuickmount
8. FoxitReader1.0-1
9. Pwidgets-2.2.7
10. Startmount-0.5.3
11. puppybasic
12. dotpuphandler
13. Cursor_Themes-1

Sorry, didn't keep an exact record of ALL version numbers, and I'm not working in Quirky right now, so can't easily go find them.

[Béèm]

I now tried in Lucid 115 also and the scanner works.

It sounds like the scanner package that Lupu got from Ubuntu is more comprehensive than Quirky's

Would it eventually be possible to copy the needed files from Lucid 115 to Q 100?

Yes, but it would be a little tricky determining which ones belong to the epkowa driver.

I installed the epkowa tar.gz, but to no avail.
I edited the epkowa.conf to add the correct product and device id to the usb line, but this didn't work either.
I'll continue to look at the link you gave.

[aarf]

Have installed Quirky to HDD and all seems to be working OK. Only one mystery: the first HDD boot generated an error message file (filename fsckme.err) which appears to relate to the encrypted save file I'm using. Copy of error message file attached.

That means file system check is working. (it's a good thing)

i get that file too but still get many errors in my file systems when i do fsck or e2fsck from terminal and these are errors that persist through reboot.

fsckme: sdb1,vfat,/lupu115/lupusave-115ext3.3fs

only one vfat file system gives

Code: Select all

# fsck /dev/sdb1
fsck 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010)
dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
/lupu-006.iso___lupu-008.iso.delta
  File size is 35541738 bytes, cluster chain length is > 35553280 bytes.
  Truncating file to 35541738 bytes.
/lupu-111.iso
  File size is 4138932 bytes, cluster chain length is > 4161536 bytes.
  Truncating file to 4138932 bytes.
/lupu-111.iso  and
/quirky021/quirky-021.sfs
  share clusters.
1) Truncate first to 53870592 bytes
2) Truncate second to 2883584 bytes
? 2
/quirky021/quirky-021.sfs
  File size is 101040128 bytes, cluster chain length is 53870592 bytes.
  Truncating file to 53870592 bytes.
Reclaimed 4 unused clusters (131072 bytes).
Free cluster summary wrong (3537 vs. really 4951)
1) Correct
2) Don't correct
? 2
Leaving file system unchanged.
/dev/sdb1: 2956 files, 109047/113998 clusters
# 

[rjbrewer]

Fsck in Quirky 1.0 (IIRC) automatically restarts if it detects a
previous hard shutdown problem.

[rcrsn51]

I'll continue to look at the link you gave.

The PET by jamesbond may be a better choice. Don't miss the step about adding "epkowa" to the end of the file /etc/sane.d/dll.conf.

[stu90]

@stu90 in .xinitrc, line 146 here, you could try commenting out whole thing or substitute some other panel.

Code: Select all

#v3.95 support fbpanel tray/taskbar...
#only launch tray for w.m. without inbuilt tray...
if [ "$CURRENTWM" != "jwm" -a "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm" ];then
 if [ -f /usr/bin/fbpanel ];then

  [ ! -e /var/local/icons/home48.png ] && ln -fs /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/* /var/local/icons/
  fbpanel &
 fi
 [ -f /usr/bin/lxpanel ] && lxpanel &
fi

Thanks