Wary 1.0.2 (102) feedback

[abushcrafter]

Failed to show the Ethernet option in the network dialogue. I have been able to connect in all other puppy's but Insidious Puppy 001 to the internet. I think this is my Ethernet card: "02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)". It work in Wary 098.

[abushcrafter]

What about http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html for a home page?

[abushcrafter]

Here is the "isolinux.cfg" from my non working multi boot LiveCDs:

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default luci
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 70

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label luci
  kernel /luci/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/luci/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=luci

label wary
 kernel /wary/vmlinuz
 append initrd=/wary/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=wary

[i00i]

I finally got my 3G modem working! For me as a newbie it was really tricky job. You guys are talking about PupDial (aren’t you? ). I couldn’t get it working with it (obviously too difficult for me), but instead I succeeded with GPRS wizard.

My Nokia CS-17 was correctly detected right after inserting it. Oddly on the PGPRS modem setup window the list detected devices included: /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/usb/ttyUSB /dev/ttyS0. None of them wasn’t correct. Finally (after several evenings trying everything) I realized that PupDial wizard found different device /dev/ttyACM0. Inserting that into line Serial modem Device File and tadaa, I was in the Internet!

I booted Wary from cd in two different laptops (HP Omnibook xe3 and IBM T40) and both connections were successful with same setup. Here is my setup (at least may help Puppy Wary users in Finland, operator DNA).

Serial Modem Device File: /dev/ttyACM0
APN: internet
Username: dna
Password: internet
Phone number: *99#
Phone PIN: <my pincode>

I hope this is useful information for someone. If not, sorry I am really newbie with these things.

[ravensrest]

Installed (separately) FBReader 0.12.1 and 0.12.8 in Wary 1.0.2. It loads and reads books as it should, but when trying to add books to the library, the dialog box disappears immediately after a book is selected, not allowing one to input the auxiliary data, and the program terminates.

After restarting FBReader, the book does appear to get added to the library, however.

On further investigation, this looks like it may be a problem internal to FBReader. If one designates a book directory, the above problem no longer exists.

BS

[BarryK]

Here is the "isolinux.cfg" from my non working multi boot LiveCDs:

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default luci
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 70

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label luci
  kernel /luci/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/luci/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=luci

label wary
 kernel /wary/vmlinuz
 append initrd=/wary/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=wary

This what I have in my working multi-boot cd, isolinux.cfg:

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default 1
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 0

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg

label 1
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

label 2
kernel l510/vmlinuz
append initrd=l510/initrd.gz pmedia=cd

label 3
kernel p431/vmlinuz
append initrd=p431/initrd.gz pmedia=cd

Puppy figures out the psubdir variable automatically, based on location of vmlinuz. it shouldn't have broken it by explicitly specifying psubdir though.

[ghead]

It would be nice to be able to easily reduce the size of the iso by leaving out unneeded drivers etc. This was accomplished in Wary 096 with a "zrdv" file which one could take out of the iso. It resulted in a significant reduction. Another option would be a "small" version of the iso like the one that was created for Puppy 4.31.

[abushcrafter]

Here is the "isolinux.cfg" from my non working multi boot LiveCDs:

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default luci
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 70

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label luci
  kernel /luci/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/luci/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=luci

label wary
 kernel /wary/vmlinuz
 append initrd=/wary/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=wary

This what I have in my working multi-boot cd, isolinux.cfg:

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default 1
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 0

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg

label 1
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

label 2
kernel l510/vmlinuz
append initrd=l510/initrd.gz pmedia=cd

label 3
kernel p431/vmlinuz
append initrd=p431/initrd.gz pmedia=cd

Puppy figures out the psubdir variable automatically, based on location of vmlinuz. it shouldn't have broken it by explicitly specifying psubdir though.

I tried that already too.

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default luci
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 70

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label luci
  kernel luci/vmlinuz
  append initrd=luci/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=luci

label wary
 kernel wary/vmlinuz
 append initrd=wary/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=wary

This one (The first one I used and posted):

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default luci
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 70

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label luci
  kernel /luci/vmlinuz
  append initrd=/luci/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=luci

label wary
 kernel /wary/vmlinuz
 append initrd=/wary/initrd.gz pmedia=cd psubdir=wary

worked before.

[BarryK]

Wary 102 frugal on laptop

Menu / Desktop / Desktop Settings / JWM configuration / Desktop / Desktop Background:

button not working

Thanks, I fixed it.

[BarryK]

My Canon i965 printer, connected via a Windows computer, using the driver from Takushi at Kyoto University, works fine. Just had to add the usual symlink named libtiff.so.4 to whatever version of libtiff is installed- libtiff.so.3.8.2 in this case.

Great! I might retire Puppy 431!

gerry

Ok, I have modified the libtiff PET to have that symlink.

[BarryK]

[quote="pakt"]Just bought a Huawei E1550 3G modem with a week’s worth of surftime included to test on wary-102.

Results are mixed. I get the mode switch-over notifications and that the modem is ready. I followed the setup instructions, making the choices as suggested and filled in the fields as appropriate for my carrier:

APN: net.tre.se
Phone: *99#
Username: void
Password: void
PIN: <myPIN>

Clicking on ‘connect’ I get (from pupdial.log):

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--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: AT+CPIN=<my_4digit_PIN>
AT+CPIN=<my_4digit_PIN>
OK
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP

[pakt]

Barry, here are the results from my latest tests showing init string 3 at different points.

After I have used the modem in windows, then boot wary-102 with pfix=ram and connect the modem, I get this init string3:

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ATQ0V1E1S0=0&D2

and I can connect.
I get this pupdial.log:

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--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: AT+CPIN=<PIN>
AT+CPIN=<PIN>
OK
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATQ0V1E1S0=0&D2
ATQ0V1E1S0=0&D2
OK
--> Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP

[Gyle]

Would you test this:
Click on Tray Menu, Menu opens. Quit Menu with a click on the desktop. Click on an icon, e.g. console or edit, the appli opens with just one single click = normal behavior.
Now, Right click on the desktop, Menu opens, don't choose any item and drag over an icon. You need a triple click to open an appli, one for the desktop event and two for the icon event; this is a little confusing on Wary, Quirky and Lupu needing just one click for the icon event.
Cheers
Edit:
This a little bit strange test aims at bringing to light (it is not an explanation) the behavior of JWM and Rox on this issue.To show further:
Ordinary when you launch an appli from the Menu, e.g. Menu / Filesystem / Rox-Filer file manager, JWM opens a window and you have the focus on it. If you click directly from this window on any desktop icon (= the pinboard of Rox) Wary needs two clicks instead of one click in Quirky-Lupu.
Now if you launch an appli, navigating from the appli already opened with the pinboard, directly to another icon, the Wary behavior is "standard" = one click to open.

[pakt]

A continuation of my tests with the Huawei E1550.

This test is after the last test where I 're-plugged' the modem and got an error when trying to connect.

I booted once again with pfix=ram, plugged in the modem and ran the wizard.
This time the init string3 is blank (no string).

I filled in string3 with:

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ATQ0V1E1S0=0&D2

clicked connect and was online.

[zygo]

pakt,

I notice that you have an angled closing double quote in all your logs

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AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP

[Shep]

I finally got my 3G modem working! For me as a newbie it was really tricky job. You guys are talking about PupDial (aren’t you? ). I couldn’t get it working with it (obviously too difficult for me), but instead I succeeded with GPRS wizard.

What speed are you getting? Won't GPRS be very slow?

[pakt]

I don't know why you can't connect everytime.

Well, I have definitely narrowed it down.

After more testing, so far the init string3 only messes up when I have tried to boot with modem connected.
Then either the string is missing or the string is incorrect, e.g.

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ATQ0V1E1S0=0&C1&D2+FCLASS=0

Changing to the correct string, I can connect.

Otherwise, as long as I re-boot (with pfix=ram or with a save file), then connect the modem,
I get this initialisation string 3:

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ATQ0V1E1S0=0&D2

or

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ATQ0V1E1S0=0&C1&D2

and can connect and get online.

(The error I get when unplugging, then re-plugging the modem without re-booting is another problem, but as this scenario is rather unlikely, I don't see fixing it so important.)

[i00i]

I finally got my 3G modem working! For me as a newbie it was really tricky job. You guys are talking about PupDial (aren’t you? ). I couldn’t get it working with it (obviously too difficult for me), but instead I succeeded with GPRS wizard.

What speed are you getting? Won't GPRS be very slow?

No. I have 2M modem and speedtest gave me 1.9M. It is the same as with Windows XP.

[ravensrest]

Two irksome effects:

First, it appears that sometimes the first mouse click doesn't count when activating an application from the desktop even if "Single-click to open" is set in the pinboard configuration. I think this was reported for Wary 098 also. In addition the same effect sometimes seems to occur if single click navigation is not set and one double clicks on a file or directory in RoxFiler; it takes three clicks. This seems to happen when focus has been elsewhere even if focus is first transferred back to RoxFiler by clicking on it somewhere.

Second, sometimes a quick right click on a drive icon will cause it to disappear. Or, if I change the settings for the disk icon manager, it does not necessarily refresh. I can cause it to do so by rebooting, restarting X, or running pup_event_frontend_d from the console. Would in make sense to add a "Restart frontend" to the shutdown menu or when exiting the eventmanager?

BS

[Gyle]

hi ravensrest

First, it appears that sometimes the first mouse click doesn't count when activating an application from the desktop even if "Single-click to open" is set in the pinboard configuration

Please see my previous post on page 5 and test.
It is not "sometimes" but always, because it depends, IMHO, how ROX is articulated with JWM, in Wary or Quirky, Lupu, etc..

sometimes a quick right click on a drive icon will cause it to disappear

It is almost certain that the contact of the button of your mouse has bounced two times when you have clicked.The first right click opened the menu dialog, the second contact (not debounced, like with the microcontroller's program of the keyboard) has just clicked on the item "Remove item(s) " You can see that the focus is set on this item if you right click on the icon.
The programmer must have forbidden the right click on any item on the pull-down contextual menu to avoid this problem.