oui wrote:Hi RSH
Also from me, welcome back!
You have very buzy with your developments.
And they are great.
Thank you very much, oui!
But I read that you are running and running (as other Puppy developpers to produce new versions adapted to an already other old version)! As long we will use Ubuntu as our base and Ubuntu will produce a new version each April and October of each year, it will be so and continue to be so.
BK did discover that reality a lot of years ago. And I am certain other one like Debian itself did also do it!
BK did realize that only the way through a Distribution builder can be done to prevent this terrible reality! And he did produce his Woof, the distribution builder of Puppy!
Yes, and this is exactly the clue!
I have stated it multiple times - I am not a programmer and I am not a distribution builder. I am a Hacker, having fun examining Open Source Codes, modifying Open Source Codes and doing some programming for Applications, that I want to use. Each and every little line of code written by myself has been done, because it was part of an Application, that I wanted to use.
I don't like the Internet and my complete online Life is usually turning around Puppy Linux. When I'm entering the Web a thousand times, there may be (not must be) one time out of those thousands of times, that I'm entering the Web for a different purpose.
This fact for itself makes me unable to be a distribution builder. Since almost all of you out there are addicted online-abusers and addicted to the use of smartphones or so-called smart devices, this would force me to do a lot of internet, web and smart device related work - which I don't want to do. I'm not interested in!
I don't need a smartphone since I'm owning a smart brain. I am able to carry phone numbers without to use and to carry energy-wasting electronic devices where ever I'm moving.
I don't need Global Positioning Navigation Devices since I can move and find my way home just by watching the Sun and/or the Stars.
I don't need a control-center for my digital devices since I'm the control-center of my home and all its devices - not only the (less in numbers) digital ones.
I don't need a digital personal time management device since I don't want to fill up my life with stupid actions like trying to become rich or watching ice-cube battles on the web, which would force me to do a personal time management and then to be forced to put beloved by me persons into such personal time management.
That's just stupid human behavior!
Let me try to explain this a little more - I'm calling this the
Animal/Human Normal Mode/Danger Mode Theory
Looking at the fishes in the sea - the small ones, the swarms of fishes. If they are in Normal Mode, they are just swimming and doing whatever fishes are doing in the sea. Everyone
is just acting like he/she
wants to act. But if they are getting into Danger Mode, they have a code:
- look left
- look right
- do what they do
And it works perfectly!
Exactly this code:
- look left
- look right
- do what they do
is Human acting in Normal Mode. But when humans are forced to get in Danger Mode, they kill each other because everyone acts chaotic and filled of panic. Usually kids and other physically weak persons are the dead ones out of this Human Danger Mode.
My Personal Normal Mode is:
- do what you want
- look left
- look right
- never ever do what they do
So there might be some intelligence of the swarms, but that's absolutely NOT true for swarms of human beings. And it will never ever become true by the use of stupid digital so-called smart devices!
If that was really needed?
Yes, of course, but good scripts do the same and are more open as far as good documented in text and good structured...
I use more than one distribution because I use in some cases THE MOST ACTUAL version of the software I can use without to need to use Arch or Gentoo... And Original Ubuntu is that.
But I also use NuTyx since about 4..5 years. It would be difficult to use only NuTyx else I would do it. NuTyx is fast because it is optimized for the processor Wink (it is probably an adequate way to mess itself with all in RAM distributions like Puppy, as Puppy is not optimized for it!. NuTyx is a two mann show with one creator and one developper having the great labor to port the KDE into NuTyx. What is the important message I will transmit to you and other member of the Puppy staff?
I don't use any other operating system.
My default daily OS is still the LazY Puppy - of course my extended private version. Sometimes I do use the Precise 5.6 based LazY Precise. Don't want to switch to any other OS - especially if it doesn't offer something similar like Puppy Linux's .sfs files. Also I think, it would be a waste of time, since I'm getting now close to being a expert - only meant as for my personal uses and tweaks.
Then...
Nutyx is a correct but completed LinuxFromScratch derivate always in the actual new version.
It is coming with a distribution's building script from LFS/BLFS sources (not absolutely in full automatic but about) as well as, different from Original LFS being only available from sources, from the NuTyx-Binaries for 32- as well as for 64-version (bravo powerfull 2-mann-staff)!
and, it is the point, you can install them out about all other running (not only preinstalled, Arch Pup is enough!) distros (Original Puppy is not going: bash seems to be different fom Ubuntu's bash, Ubuntu bash works! It is the same with Keyboard's definitions being never actualized in Puppy! Years and years long the same terrible errors...!).
This belongs to the distribution builders, so: BarryK, 01micko etc.pp.
I just don't have the knowledge to fix or change such *years long terrible errors*. Maybe they don't have the knowledge as well? I don't know.
What is the importance of that!
Big!
You don't need to reproduce some errors. Each new distro version is really re compiled from A..Z!
And each other member of the community as always the same chances to do the same as you, it is team work.
And all the system is completely open: Sources, scripts, as well as the git...
Really entirely open.
Using scripts to BUILD THE DISTRO and not only to USE THE DISTRO gives to that distro real power: To man develop a complete system (from completely and uptodate available sources of course) used to build from sources, to install from script or to install from own maintenance system or from ISO (both are about equivalent: the difference is, that the maintenance system is always pre located and pre installed on the own hard disk and that you never need to burn a CD ot to install an ISO on USB stick)!
I couldn't even compile applications in most of all cases!
How should I be able to compile a complete OS?
You funny guy...
my opinion is that your great stuff (LazY stuff, Sara B stuff, variable Menus stuff, Rox app's stuff, LP3-, I suppose now, ...-SFS stuff) would need an installations access equivalent to them I have describded for Nutyx: from Sources, from Binaries through a git (there are free git depositories! you don't need to manage yourself and pay for a site: all is free as it is for free software!) through scripts, You are really a great master in writing scripts, as using a tool as You did produce more that one time, remastered Puppy ISO's... to install more and remaster more.
This way would allow to maintain always just in time actual versions of best software as the most work is to elaborate and adapt the sources and does LFS / BLFS itself. And as LFS is, of course an great exigent but traditions oriented community work, this important part of the job comes finish for more.
I wish you new Version 3.0 a big success and long life but also above vision of development in the future.
No, my *great stuff* doesn't need any installation access from sources and binaries at git or something similar. LazY Puppy etc. has got everything on board to create your own .sfs files from .pet and .deb files. Every Puppy Linux comes with development extension (devx) so the end user also can compile applications. So LazY Puppy offers more options to create and build applications as any other Puppy Linux or its derivative.
What my *great stuff* would need at first, is to be recognized as a *great stuff*!
Ok, there have been some users -like you- that already did so, but not the developers. And since all of this *great stuff* is NOT programmed using a well founded background knowledge of Puppy Linux it would be needed to re-coded!
All of this *great stuff* is hacked into the keyboard until it worked by having a HUGE amount of FUN!
That's what I'm doing here, that's what I'm doing in LazY Puppy (Puppy Linux). Just having fun, and trying to explore the undiscovered opportunities and possibilities of this generally wonderful piece of computer art.
I have Ideas, that I still can't get into some code, so I'm trying to publish some work that I was able to code and would be probably useful for other Puppy Linux users.
Who knows?
Maybe the developers did already recognize that *great stuff* -I can see some influence of some of my work done in the past three years in the new Slacko- but as stated it would need to be recoded.
That would be a huge amount of time.
Thanks for your posting,
RSH