Lucid Puppy 5.2.7 RC2

[rerwin]

Playdayz,
After posting my i915_update-1 a page back, I spent the day researching further on the ideas for coping with the black screen issue. The outcome is discouraging. A few ideas, but they never really solved the problem. And even if a PC boots up with one of the solutions, I may suddenly go black later on. Although improvements may have been made in later kernels, the i845 chipsets -- which simply cannot handle the modeset 1 (running Kernel Mode Setting) -- appear doomed. Most advice is to set the mode at 0 (User Mode Setting), which is good for kernel 2.6.33, but is no longer supported in later kernels. No mention is made of just not setting anything, but it seems to work for me.

After all that, I conclude that I should not change the method (modeset=0) already in use in luci, since it makes the most sense. But I want to provide options for those caught up in the i845 blackscreen saga. Therefore, the attached package makes it simple for a user to try omitting the modeset by a simple edit of the i915 rules file. The config file checks for either of two flags (for 0 or nothing); if neither is set, mode 1 is used. Keep in mind that this applies only to the rules for the troublesome cards; all other cards/chipsets use mode 1.

One thing I added as a precaution, is to ensure that the fbcon module gets loaded before i915. That is from advice that if i915 loaded first, it would not have the resources provided by fbcon. That might be important for multiple processors/cores.

So, the function is unchanged, but supports more possibilities. I have now exhausted my effort to fix all the blackscreens -- it is just not possible. But I have learned a lot, and am still ready to add cards to the rules file for other i915-problem graphics cards, as I am notified of them.
Richard

[tasmod]

Testing this release I decided to try Dillo, something I haven't used before.

What a delight, light, simple and fast.

What should be compulsory reading to any Puppyite is the
story in the sidebar. "The Right to Read" stick with it to the end,
it's fascinating.

(If you read it, then yes, I'm aware of the irony in the use of "compulsory")

[ASRI éducation]

In RMLL2011 (Strasbourg France), I had the opportunity to meet one of the developers of Gnumeric and Abiword.
He said:
- Abiword 2.9 is not a good idea, because it is a development version (cf. discussion about package Abiword 2.9 by ttuuxxx).
- Gnumeric v1.10.16 provides a set of interesting patches.

[Billtoo]

I did a manual frugal install of 265 and installed xorg-high and then
the ati pet in quickpet.

Mon 18 Jul 2011 Operating System: Lucid Puppy-265 Linux 2.6.33.2
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5500 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: REDWOOD 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: (II) glx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. (II) Module fglrx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5500 Series
OpenGL version string: 4.0.10243 Compatibility Profile Context

AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: 2592 1: 2592 2: 2592 3: 2592 MHz

sh-4.1# glxgears
38850 frames in 5.0 seconds
38917 frames in 5.0 seconds
38948 frames in 5.0 seconds

No problems so far.

[ASRI éducation]

pclock 0.2 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64575

[DaveS]

How about that! I got a version of Google-Chrome running... latest version 12.0.742.124. First load from fresh boot it fails to load homepage, but closing and re-loading fixes it for that session. Otherwise it has been stable. No stupid 'root' issues either. Will run it against Peacemaker in a mo. If anyone wants I will create a .pet.

[tater]

Manual frugal install.

So far everything looks good and seems faster than lupu 525.

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz
Memory : 515MB (157MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.26
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 18 Jul 2011 12:35:38 PM EDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1280x1024 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
MosArt Optical Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF
pdf_writer : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA MAXTOR 4K020H1
ATA ST320014A
ATAPI DVD A DH20A4P

[PaulBx1]

I added the following to the 525 bug thread:

As to this complaint about nonfunctionality of "puppy=fsck" for encrypted pupsaves:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 176#545176

The solution is to uncomment the call to fsck the pupsave! Line 967 in luci 265, not sure where in 525.

Another bug: Barry, in rc.shutdown (where pupsaves are created) and in the init script (where pupsaves are enlarged), uses "dd if=/dev/zero". This is poor cryptographic practice for encrypted pupsaves. Should use /dev/urandom. I have tried it and it works, however it extends the time to create a pupsave (about 5 minutes for a 512MB one). In the init script it is no big deal because the extension of encrypted pupsaves is separate from that of non-encrypted ones; but in rc.shutdown it's all done in one place. So there, it should be conditional, depending on whether or not they want an encrypted pupsave, so most folks won't have to wait so long.

Oh, and I noticed my keyboard is always in numlock whenever I press F2 at boot. No big deal, but could be annoying or confounding to some.

[playdayz]

Sorry to waste everybody's time but both 525 with Bigpup's fix and 264 were advertised as having working bootflash and they didn't.

Yes snail. Please accept my apologies. On the first message of this thread I indicated the the fix was present in 264--I meant it to be but I goofed. In 5.2.5 the syslinux 4 was fixed in the Instant Update. I am sorry for the inconvenience. And thanks for your testing.

[playdayz]

Would it be possible to replace fbpanel by lxpanel?

Not in this upcoming release. However, when EZ-Woof 5.2.6 is posted, it would be possible for someone to do it themselves.

Or, wait a minute, if we have a good pet of lxpanel that can be placed in the Puppy Package Manager and someone could install it before remastering.

Is there a good pet of lxpanel?
Here's one for testing ->
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 48&t=62757

- Gnumeric v1.10.16 provides a set of interesting patches.

Thanks for the good information. I was unable to compile Gnumeric 1.10.16 because it needed several updated versions of dependencies. Dave S says 1.10.13 is a good one, so unless someone comes through we will probably stay with it.

[PaulBx1]

I like the current version of Gnumeric. It actually has a bug fix of my own in it. I couldn't run my spreadsheet properly prior to lupu 525. It's why I stuck with 525 when otherwise I would have given up on it.

[Wyk72]

I'm testing this luci-265 release on my new laptop, a Packard Bell TM85, I3 370M processor, Nvida GT320M graphics.

No network interface is recognized.

The interfaces on it are:

Wired: Broadcom Netlink BCM57780 Gigabit

Wireless: Realtek RTL8192SE

The former should be loaded by the tg3 module, but it does not seem to work at all. For the latter I could not find a suitable module.

FatDog64 (latest) loads the tg3 driver correctly for my ethernet card, but no luck for the wireless part.

[pemasu]

Wyk72. Right thread for you.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 469#462469

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 938#447938

[Jades]

On Merlin, Pentium D. Upgraded pupsave from 264 to 265 seemingly without incident. HardInfo report at http://www.jades.org/comps/hir_mer_luci265.html.

Will test XineDVD with a couple of DVDs later on if I remember.

[Snail]

playdayz

No apologies necessary. You have heaps on your plate as it is. Thanks for taking the trouble to put me right.

It was good to have confirmation that it wasn't something I was doing wrong nor a problem unique to me. 99% of the time that may very well be true but it is extremely discouraging to the noobish amongst us when that seems to be the default assumption by some. The only reason I test at all is that I believe that non-expert testing can be useful if the aim of puppy is still to produce a distro that is noob-friendly.

[Béèm]

Installed the usual Lin'N'Win FRUGAL of 265
When clicking on the network icon in the tray, /var/cache/fontconfig it started to fill. I could stop it by restarting X otherwise this would have continued as in the 263.

Fontconfig contains:

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sh-4.1# 

Really annoying

I think I found the cause.
I have a TTF directory outside the save file.
In a script I rename the TTF directory in /usr/share/fonts/default
Then I symlink the TTF directory outside the save file to /usr/share/fonts/default.
So I can use the fonts in every puppy I boot from.
But something must have gone wrong, as I found a symlink to TTF in that TTF directory and probably causing a recursive action.
I have removed that symlink and I'll see how the system behaves.

But still I am interested to know what the function is of that fontconfig directory in /var/cache

[playdayz]

I had a screen freeze also, that required CTRL-Alt-BS. I also have never gotten them on Lucid. I *thought* it was gparted 0.8.1 because it happened right after I used it. I have reverted to 0.8 for luci-266. I am trying to give things a workout now.

Actually mine was after using gparted to reformat a usb stick, then it was when after closing gparted the device disappeared and reappeared, then frozen.

I can't make it happen again, so far.
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I finally got the Crystal icons Bigpup. Nice. Thanks.

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I don't know if I should say that Iron 12 seems to be running well in luci-265

[bigpup]

I had a screen freeze also, that required CTRL-Alt-BS. I also have never gotten them on Lucid. I *thought* it was gparted 0.8.1 because it happened right after I used it. I have reverted to 0.8 for luci-266. I am trying to give things a workout now.

Actually mine was after using gparted to reformat a usb stick, then it was when after closing gparted the device disappeared and reappeared, then frozen.

Luci265
Frugal + save file

I tried doing what you did. Reformat USB stick with Gparted. Closed Gparted, USB drive sdb1 disappeared and reappeared. Did not get any freeze up. Everything worked normal.
OK, you know what we need.
Computer specs.
What else where you doing?
How are you running Luci265?

[playdayz]

OK, you know what we need.
Computer specs.
What else where you doing?
How are you running Luci265?

It was a weird situation admittedly. I wanted to make USB installs to test the no-hard-drive-usb-no-boot bug and to confirm that ext4 would boot on usb sticks. *But* I had cratered my little 4GB stick somehow and gparted would not do anything to it--no format--no delete--nothing. I am ashamed to admit that I went to my windows machine which formatted it as fat32. So it was in playing with that drive--I can't remember whether it was before or after I fixed it--that the screen froze, just after I exited gparted.

Frugal install. Doing nothing else. Phenom 2850. 4GB ram.

Now I am running a preliminary 266 and I have done everything I can think of with gparted and the usb stick and no problem. Thanks.

Hey, you know Bigpup, I could have been screwing around with the ATI Catalyst graphics at this time--I accidentally installed the fglrx that I built for spup and it didn't work so well Darn, I just can't remember. But the more I test here the less worried I am.

[Jades]

I had a screen freeze also, that required CTRL-Alt-BS. I also have never gotten them on Lucid. I *thought* it was gparted 0.8.1 because it happened right after I used it. I have reverted to 0.8 for luci-266. I am trying to give things a workout now.

In case it's one of the cases where it is something with your particular setup flag it as something for investigation rather than rolling back to 0.8 straight away. So far you seem to be the only one who's had problems with it. It even works on my K6, and that's rare indeed.

Actually mine was after using gparted to reformat a usb stick, then it was when after closing gparted the device disappeared and reappeared, then frozen.

Any further info on this, such as the type of stick? May be helpful in tracking it down. I have two, an LG 1GB one and a Busbi 4GB that's actually barely 3. Which format were you trying to use?