Puppy Squeeze 009 Development

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#681 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 14:19

Iguleder wrote:It's time for someone to make a good kernel that can be used by both Lupu and Squeeze, imho

Compatibility between the two is good, let's take it one step further

as long as your glibC is the same it shouldn't be all that hard.
ttuuxxx

Iguleder · #682 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 14:21

It isn't the same, but I don't understand why glibc versions must be identical. As far as I know it doesn't matter, the only thing that does is the version of the kernel glibc was compiled against, that's 2.6.18 in both if I haven't mistaken.

EDIT: another testing build of 010, so far 3 bugs found:
- BootFlash is broken, it won't copy the SFS
- The partition Puppy boots from isn't properly detected so the icon isn't green as in 009
- SNS (for some reason) was unable to connect to wireless networks; I had to connect to a network from the console manually, then it started working

Karl Godt · #683 Post by **Karl Godt** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 15:30

As far as I can see the debian squeeze kernel is the 2.6.32 one.

The README of the kernel source from kernel.org seems to be not much of worth ....

Using make bzImage at 2.6.35.7 finally gave an kernel that started to boot but didn't want to mount ....

I guess its the patches but applying patch -p 2 < KERNELPATCHFILEfromKERNEL-ORG patched but also moved or copied the files two directories up ....

And there are many directories .....

And The kernel.org Patchfile is over 1 million lines long .....

So before adding the three patchfiles you posted, one which is also pretty large,
HOW TO PATCH that the files stay in their dirs ? (is it the patch command (compiled wrong) ?)

I also would like to know what to choose at the make menuconfig to get more than three kernel.ko compiled (default values).
One attempt to 2.6.35.7 even compiled none kernel.ko drivers ....

2.6.36 seems to pretty much the same as 2.6.35

Iguleder · #684 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 16:00

Uploading deltas to the 010 release candidate, they're here. There are two flavors, 2.6.32.24 (patched to appear as 2.6.32) and 2.6.35.7.

The latter is for i686 (people with ancient hardware won't use it anyway), while the former is for i486. Both are patched with BFS 357, which should improve latency and performance, especially on multi-core machines but also on single-core machines.

In both, wireless power saving is enabled by default but power saving for AC97 and HDA sound cards is disabled because of the click sound it produces. It's there (while most puppies don't have it) but disabled. The power schemes tray icon is now smarter, it also enables or disables it.

The default CPU scaling governor is "performance" but it can be easily changed to "ondemand". Both kernels support up to 8 CPUs and support both SMP and HyperThreading.

There are some bugs here and there - they originate in the new kernels and the new Woof. Barry intends to add bug fixes to Woof until the final release of Wary; that's a good chance for us to declare Puppy Squeeze as "released". We'll have to wait a couple of days after Wary's release for Barry to upload Woof, though.

pemasu · #685 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:22

Hmmm. When I get the dpup010 k2.5.35.7 iso md5sum, I can check that my deltaupgrade was succesful.

When booting, searching for puppy files stops for long period and pausing text appears 4 times. Wlan internet connection does not work. And ntfs 3g driver mounts only readonly. Fuse module is missing is the main thing in the error table.

Well... I didnt check anymore because internet connection failed.

Iguleder · #686 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:29

Same here, it takes a very long time to load the block device modules and wireless works only from second attempt. Probably ntfs-3g is broken with this kernel, maybe it's too new.

On 2.6.32.24 I don't have these problems and it works splendidly. For some reason my USB mouse doesn't work ... maybe it's dead.

EDIT: my mouse works.

Brown Mouse · #687 Post by **Brown Mouse** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:40

Hi iguleder

Downloaded 010 delta,did an md5 check and installed 010 with the 2.6.32 kernel.

Booted up fine but noticed the 'Resolution and Language setter' brings up network connection config'.
Created savefile,rebooted,greeted by the sfs installer,at which point the mouse pointer froze.
Gave it a second shot with a renamed savefeile,exactly the same issue.

MinHundHettePerro · Sun 24 Oct 2010, 18:24

Hello

!

010-rc1-k2.6.32.24, new clean savefile:

Lost my mouse pointer, got it back through xorgwizard - but, with a black screen. Much more xorgwizardry got both mouse pointer and non-black screen back, but it didn't hold for restart of X

. Also tried boot parameter modeset=0 to no avail. Tried 1280x1024 and 1024x768 in both 24 and 16 bits colourdepths, none was more stable than the other.

"pausing" at boot up - maybe the boot time just feels longer when seeing that, didn't time the boot ups

.

009 and 010beta were both working nicely

.

Cheers

/
MHHP

peebee · #689 Post by **peebee** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 18:59

dpup010 rc-1 k2.6.32 frugal install on HP550 laptop.

Startup - OK
Touchpad config - OK
Powerapplet tray - OK
Wifi via SNS - OK (apart from usual periodic disassociation)
Samba - OK
Remote CUPS printing via smbc: - OK

All OK for me - well done...

The tray power thingy - doesn't have any popup text, doesn't show what is the current setting and has a speelling mistook. Balanced.

Cheers
Peter

Iguleder · #690 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 19:00

I can see there are changes in some X packages, versions changed. Those introduced many regessions and lots of additional gray hair. I guess we have no choice but to wait for the Debian guys to fix those.

I get some graphics corruption on my PineView ... some weird black pixels in a pattern.

Dammit!

Jim1911 · #691 Post by **Jim1911** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:16

Hi Iguleder,

New frugal installion of both rc-1 k2.6.32 and k2.6.35.7. Both appeared to work fine until a reboot was performed to set up a save file. On both, upon reboot with a save file, my usb mouse froze.

I'm sure it's something minor because previous versions have been great.

Cheers,
Jim

Iguleder · #692 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:26

Still shocked to see how messed up it is ... something is terribly wrong with the X drivers and Woof.

I guess we'll have to take the time and let the Debian guys do whatever they do that makes their packages so good

edoc · #693 Post by **edoc** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:28

What is the best app to use in dpup 009 to download and save videos from YouTube and elsewhere, please?

I need to share a history-related video clip in a learning environment for young people and the Internet access at the location is unreliable.

Thanks!

Iguleder · #694 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:33

I use file2hd.com for that (it's in the menu!) ... but there's also you2pup.

upnorth · #695 Post by **upnorth** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 21:14

the 2.6.32.24 version, the ipv4 branch was missing, I think. couldn't load ip_tables or run iptables command.

I ,was connected to net ok though.

edoc · #696 Post by **edoc** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 21:25

Thanks!

It is running right now ...

Iguleder · #697 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 21:47

I think I removed all routing-related stuff, home users don't need all the networking protocols and extra stuff that all Puppy kernels have.

Want it in? Just let me know if there's anything missing and I'll put it back in. At the moment I'm working on a "final" kernel for 010, after the major regressions I think there won't be a final Squeeze in the immediate future, so I can be more relaxed and do things more carefully.

James C · #698 Post by **James C** » Mon 25 Oct 2010, 00:20

Fresh manual frugal install of 010rc (2.6.35.7) on the old P3 test box.Boot doesn't get to xorgwizard, only "If x failed to start,type" xorgwizard "to setup x"....going thru xorgwizard returns to the prompt.
Guess I'll try the other kernel......

Xvesa is a no go as well.

Quick Edit.....
Fresh frugal install of the 2.6.32 kernel version.Same result.......no display.

James C · #699 Post by **James C** » Mon 25 Oct 2010, 01:28

Burned 2.6.32 to a cd, live pfix=ram in the main Linux box. I'm posting from it,so it works in this box......

Sound and internet working on initial boot.....no problem setting desired 1440x900x24 resolution.

# glxgears
1132 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.369 FPS
1145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.750 FPS
1169 frames in 5.0 seconds = 233.610 FPS
1162 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.215 FPS
1133 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.535 FPS
1142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.300 FPS
3913 frames in 5.0 seconds = 782.591 FPS
7038 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1407.559 FPS
7593 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1518.454 FPS
7415 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1482.957 FPS
7722 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1544.350 FPS
7788 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1556.656 FPS

# report-video
/etc/DISTRO_SPECS: line 14: alpha-numeric: command not found
VIDEO REPORT: Puppy Squeeze, version 010

Chip description:
oem: S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR Family BIOS
product: VBE 3.0 Rev 0.0

Driver used by Xorg:
savage

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1002MB (146MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.01
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 24 Oct 2010 08:24:55 PM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1400x1050 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI ProSavageDDR 20061110 AGP 1x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.32 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Oct 24 16:23:39 GMT-8 2010
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.01
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-

Jim1911 · #700 Post by **Jim1911** » Mon 25 Oct 2010, 01:57

Iguleder wrote:Uploaded a Trinity base SFS, here. The SFS contains kdelibs-trinity, kdebase-trinity and xdg menu stuff Puppy lacks

Hi Iguleder,
Running this now on 0.9. This is quite an accomplishment. Thanks for sharing it.
Cheers,
Jim

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010rc 2.6.32.24