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amigodetux wrote:Total RAM: 2908 MB

Maybe not enough RAM.

I made a frugal install of the previous version, Quirky Xerus 8.3, to a couple computers and all have at least 4096 MB RAM.

Leon wrote:

amigodetux wrote:Total RAM: 2908 MB

Maybe not enough RAM.

I made a frugal install of the previous version, Quirky Xerus 8.3, to a couple computers and all have at least 4096 MB RAM.

Hi

I booted from an older xersu64 dvd that I had and did the following:

I installed to a SDHC card on my Acer Revo which has about 2gb ram,
have used the same method to install to flash drives.
I downloaded the iso and easydd and put them in a hold directory,
opened a terminal in the hold directory and did "sh easydd
xerus64-8.4-8gb.img.gz" no quotes.

Plug in your flash drive and when the script starts it will prompt you
which drive to install to.

System: Host: QUIRKYPC11420 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976
Distro: Quirky 8.4.1 xerus64
Machine: System: Acer product: Aspire R3610 serial: PTSCX0205302001AC12700
Mobo: Acer model: FMCP7A-ION-LE serial: U020102009703
Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A4 date: 11/03/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Atom 330 (-HT-MCP-) speed: 1600 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA ION VGA
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia tty size: 113x27 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
Card-2: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Drives: HDD Total Size: 192.1GB (4.6% used)
Weather: Conditions: 23 F (-5 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: February 13, 5:48 PM EST
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 112.8/1496.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

Works for me.

Billtoo wrote:Hi

I booted from an older xersu64 dvd that I had and did the following:

I installed to a SDHC card on my Acer Revo which has about 2gb ram,
have used the same method to install to flash drives.
I downloaded the iso and easydd and put them in a hold directory,
opened a terminal in the hold directory and did "sh easydd
xerus64-8.4-8gb.img.gz" no quotes.

Plug in your flash drive and when the script starts it will prompt you
which drive to install to.

System: Host: QUIRKYPC11420 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976
Distro: Quirky 8.4.1 xerus64
Machine: System: Acer product: Aspire R3610 serial: PTSCX0205302001AC12700
Mobo: Acer model: FMCP7A-ION-LE serial: U020102009703
Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A4 date: 11/03/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Atom 330 (-HT-MCP-) speed: 1600 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA ION VGA
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia tty size: 113x27 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
Card-2: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Drives: HDD Total Size: 192.1GB (4.6% used)
Weather: Conditions: 23 F (-5 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: February 13, 5:48 PM EST
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 112.8/1496.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

Works for me.

Thank your for the instructions and the information.

BarryK wrote:Quirky Xerus 8.4.1 is released

I made a manual frugal install from ISO file xerus64-8.4.1.iso to a hard drive.

Sound volume state is not preserved at reboot.

I made a patch that fix the problem.

Leon wrote:

Billtoo wrote:Hi

I booted from an older xersu64 dvd that I had and did the following:

I installed to a SDHC card on my Acer Revo which has about 2gb ram,
have used the same method to install to flash drives.
I downloaded the iso and easydd and put them in a hold directory,
opened a terminal in the hold directory and did "sh easydd
xerus64-8.4-8gb.img.gz" no quotes.

Plug in your flash drive and when the script starts it will prompt you
which drive to install to.

System: Host: QUIRKYPC11420 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976
Distro: Quirky 8.4.1 xerus64
Machine: System: Acer product: Aspire R3610 serial: PTSCX0205302001AC12700
Mobo: Acer model: FMCP7A-ION-LE serial: U020102009703
Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A4 date: 11/03/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Atom 330 (-HT-MCP-) speed: 1600 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA ION VGA
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia tty size: 113x27 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
Card-2: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Drives: HDD Total Size: 192.1GB (4.6% used)
Weather: Conditions: 23 F (-5 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: February 13, 5:48 PM EST
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 112.8/1496.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

Works for me.

Thank your for the instructions and the information.

You're wellcome,
When I said easydd and the iso I should have said easydd and the xerus64-8.4-8gb.img.gz, also, the dvd that I booted from was Quirky xerus64 8.1.94.

Experienced Quirky user here. I'm unable to install langpack from pet-noarch. It offers only local source of install, no network. It is the same with any other package from this repo and the other pet-? repo (I forgot the name, not on Quirky right now). The ubuntu repos let me install anything from a network source. This was working on previous versions. I already refreshed all package sources.

Initial test 8.4.1

Hi Barry,

Thanks for 8.4.1 which I can confirm fixes all the issues raised prior to the release date.
The new 8GB image was installed to another 32GB USB3 stick using 7-Zip and Win32diskimager in Win10.

A grouped list of items so far installed & tested in this version is attached.
One group on that list worthy of mention is the 32-bit compatability stuff.

That is a prerequisite for anyone using 64-bit Pups in conjunction with debbi and the official Brother drivers & Cups wrapper.
I gather that we both use Brother HL Lasers and it may be that they are present in the devx.

Screenshot:

Please press F11 to toggle into full-screen then click on link;---

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view ... R771kg-LRA

Two install attempts to external mechanical-rotating hard disk paritions (old USB 2.0) failed to boot - kernel panic. Grub2 found the partitions OK and the files copied over perfectly, but would simply not boot up. Looks like a Grub2 problem.

Install to USB2 flash stick was OK using the 8g USB image was OK but runs too slowly. No sound at all.

Install to partition on internal mechanical-rotating drive went fine and runs very well. Sound is OK here and on the live DVD ISO as well.

Here's a boost for the often-maligned Seamonkey Suite. I tried to install the latest Firefox Quantum in Quirky. It ran OK from the decompressed archive that Mozilla supplies, but could not get the lbc.co.uk browser player stream to run in Firefox, whereas the Seamonkey suite in Quirky does run. This has been the case with several recent Firefox versions. Chromium-browser installed with the PPM also runs this site OK though.

I download AppImages (i.e. portable sandboxed apps) for Darktable 2.2.5 and the latest Libreoffice 6.0.1 that run perfectly under Quirky. These AppImages can be useful when the Xenial-based packages from the PPM fail to install, or are simply not available (or versions too old). Maybe these could be made available in the ISO. Trying to work out how to install Pitivi as a Flatpak, but no joy as yet.

Very cool utilities there - e.g. Dropbox

Thanks once again for the best Linux Distro.

foxpup wrote:I just installed Quirky Xerus 8.4.1. I did a fresh manual frugal install of 8.4 and installed the sevice pack pet for 8.4.1. I rebooted. Xorgwizard seemed to come up; it guessed everything right automatically for my new laptop.

For wifi it behaves like all other Quirky's and Easy's on this machine: no connection on startup with SNS, saved profile does not seem to work and frisbee does not find anything at all. I installed the .pet rerwin recently (20180209) offered on the Easy thread and that fixes everything.

Otherwise everything I tried seems to run fine.
I have the impression the CPU temperature keeps low, around 30°C, where I usually have around 36°.

Thanks for the feedback. For everyone else, rerwin created a network-fix pet for latest EaasyOS, they can also be tested on latest Quirky 8.4.1, get it here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 596#982596

Reneetje wrote:Working in Pyro0.6_64 I installed for fun service
pack-8.4_TO_8.4.1-xerus64.pet. So, now Pyro0.6 becomes Quirky Xerus64 8.4.1

Ha ha, that's very funny

EasyOS Pyro64 is built with binary packages compiled in OpenEmbedded, whereas Quirky Xerus64 is built with Ubuntu 16.04 DEBs, so there will likely be some collateral damage afer installing the Service Pack, that will show up somewhere.

amigodetux wrote:Hello, greetings from Central America.

- My CD Optical Device is ok, I have tested others distros of puppy without problems.
- MD5SUM Ok
- My BIOS is configured correctly, no security boot is on. CD boot sequence in 1st place.

-I´m a little new solving problems, my goal is run Xerus64-8.4 from a CD or USB, using the ISO file, and then use Puppy Installer to install the system in a EXT4 formated USB.

Some information about my PC:

Product Name: OptiPlex 740
BIOS Version: 2.2.5 Dell
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Total RAM: 2908 MB

Thanks, in advance.

amigodetux

Did you get that kernel panic when booting off a CD?

BarryK wrote:

foxpup wrote:I just installed Quirky Xerus 8.4.1. I did a fresh manual frugal install of 8.4 and installed the sevice pack pet for 8.4.1. I rebooted. Xorgwizard seemed to come up; it guessed everything right automatically for my new laptop.

For wifi it behaves like all other Quirky's and Easy's on this machine: no connection on startup with SNS, saved profile does not seem to work and frisbee does not find anything at all. I installed the .pet rerwin recently (20180209) offered on the Easy thread and that fixes everything.

Otherwise everything I tried seems to run fine.
I have the impression the CPU temperature keeps low, around 30°C, where I usually have around 36°.

Thanks for the feedback. For everyone else, rerwin created a network-fix pet for latest EaasyOS, they can also be tested on latest Quirky 8.4.1, get it here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 596#982596

I forgot to mention that you also need to install the newer frisbee 1.4.7 if you want to use frisbee.

After doing some research I came across the fix for the NVME ssd problem. It's apparently a setting in the kernel, can you add it into your default set please as more and more notebooks are now using them.

Basically it's:-
Confirm that the NVMe Driver under Block is set to <M>
Go to Device Drivers -> Block Devices - > NVM Express block device
:and of course a driver is built.

There is also opensource test programs at:-
https://github.com/linux-nvme/nvme-cli

Full doc is:-
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/suppo ... 02-002.pdf

NVME Background worth reading can be found at:-
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2899351 ... -nvme.html

thanks
p.s. OpenRC still need you to write init scripts, Parabola Linux uses it, but there are scripts needed for just about everything.
p.p.s just noticed buildroot has a dumb init https://github.com/Yelp/dumb-init. See "Using a shell for pre-start hooks" in the readme.md. Would this do?

regards

scsijon wrote:NVME Background worth reading can be found at:-
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2899351 ... -nvme.html

Thanks for the info, I will enable that module next time that I compile the kernel.

Quoting from above link:

However, BIOS support is largely lacking. Without an NVMe-aware BIOS, you can’t boot from an NVMe drive, though anyone with a x4 PCIe slot or M.2 connector can benefit from employing an NVMe drive as secondary storage.

...which is a shame! Though, I suppose that will change with time.

BarryK wrote:

However, BIOS support is largely lacking. Without an NVMe-aware BIOS, you can’t boot from an NVMe drive, though anyone with a x4 PCIe slot or M.2 connector can benefit from employing an NVMe drive as secondary storage.

...which is a shame! Though, I suppose that will change with time.

Na, the link is a bit out of date, it was just the best I've read on explaining about them.

Most of the laptops and tablets brands now have it available, you just need to either do your own configuration (for those that let you do that like it seems all the main ones) or ask them if it's an option for others.

Also, there are low power M.2 2280 cards from intel at almost the same price as others but <20% of the max power with little speed loss (battery saving) and a 5yr warrenty. Don't need a second 'special driver' either like with windows, the default kernel one works out of the basket.

Using Woof 20180211.tar.gz

merge2out AMD64, Ubuntu, Xerus, Woof-Code

.pet packages are not identified as such. See pop-up below:

Would you like to:
Create a new archive, or
Add to an existing archive?

Also, I see update certficates where system is trying to do something. Not sure where it's pulling the certificates from but please be sure they're not your personal ones. Not sure what it's doing....

Hope it helps..

Slavvo67

Quirky Xerus8.4.1 Usb full install
On a computer with audio card0 adjusting volume works ok
but on a computer with audio card1 as soon as you release the adjustment window the volume gets reset to zero.

The PETget Package Manager (PPM) was unable to install PETs.

Fixed, see this discussion thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=112761

ottod wrote:Experienced Quirky user here. I'm unable to install langpack from pet-noarch. It offers only local source of install, no network. It is the same with any other package from this repo and the other pet-? repo (I forgot the name, not on Quirky right now). The ubuntu repos let me install anything from a network source. This was working on previous versions. I already refreshed all package sources.

Thanks for the feedback. This will be fixed in next release. See previous post -- and link to show how you can fix it immediately if you wish.

Leon wrote:

BarryK wrote:Quirky Xerus 8.4.1 is released

I made a manual frugal install from ISO file xerus64-8.4.1.iso to a hard drive.

Sound volume state is not preserved at reboot.

I made a patch that fix the problem.

Thanks, implemented.