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Posted: Thu 25 Oct 2012, 00:14
by gcmartin
I am not a proponent for Microsoft or Apple. Or, even Linux. I can use them all for productive work.

I am a proponent for ease of use and "simple user use" of every system design and implementation I've ever been a part of.

One of the things that I find important is the understanding of the design intent by what is put forward for enterprise, business, consumer, casual use.

In doing so, I try as best as I can to guide people on need (requirements) and on desire (Ihow user(s) like to work) as being the MOST important approaches.

One of the most recent changes in the technology landscape is being introduced this week by Microsoft in its Surface and its Window8. The IT landscape is moving to Tablet orientations started by Apple. We are on the doorstep of a in your hand revolution that has gotten much traction in enterprises and governments this year with its roots starting from users using seemingly easy to understand devices in their hands.

One of the problems many of us will have is understanding and keeping clear on what Microsoft is offering. There are 2 CPU versions of Windows8s that kinda look like twins. They are not, but, its important to understand what one has over the other.

Here some understanding
and, there are several others that have posted this week, too.

Again, I MUST RE-iterate....This is neither a recommendation or an endorsement of Apple or Microsoft or LInux or REACTOS or UNIX or .... Its just some information for community understanding.

Other Distros

Posted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 14:39
by Billtoo
I installed Bodhi 2.1.0 64 bit version, using gnome.
I like it.

Posted: Fri 26 Oct 2012, 18:37
by Colonel Panic
nitehawk wrote:James C,..
VectorLinux has always been my all-time favorite for a "bigger" distro than Puppy (when I need a bigger distro than Puppy, that is...which isn't too often). However,....my VectorLinux 7 standard install CD seems to have gotten corrupted somehow. It no longer will install <alas> :cry:

I have just broke down and installed Slackware 14,....then used a LOT of the apps off of the VectorLinux CD to "flesh out" Slackware. Stuff like Opera,...Flash,...Win32 codecs,...and the Wine package, (from the Salix repositories). Seems to work fine.

Plus,...Doing a full install of Slackware,..with KDE and the KDEgames (then using just the smaller XFCE desktop)...gives me the games for my grandson,....but a smaller DE for me. But I actually prefer VectorLinix over Slackware.
Sounds good; I've got an old release candidate of Slack 14 somewhere that I've been meaning to install.

I've always liked Vector too, but these days I feel it's underdeveloped. For example, it offers you a choice of window managers other than the default XFce, which is good, but if you choose Fluxbox the menu isn't set up properly for the apps which come with it; you have to do that yourself.

And for some strange reason the default app for opening pdf files is gimp (a problem it shares with some arch-based distros).

I've reinstalled AntiX but am having trouble installing any new apps (!), so I'm off to their forum next to find out how to access some more repos.

Other Distros

Posted: Sat 27 Oct 2012, 09:57
by Billtoo
I installed ubuntu 12.10 64 bit version on a newer hp desktop.
It's fast and running well althought a popup wanting a bug report came
up a couple of times, to do with compiz.

EDIT: I added mint 13 xfce4 to another partition on the hard drive and it's working well.
Bodhi,Ubuntu 12.10, and Mint 13 xfce4 are all nice, I think Mint is the one that I'll use most.

Posted: Sat 27 Oct 2012, 11:51
by bark_bark_bark
When it comes to Ubuntu, I prefer the latest LTS release over the current releases. It saves me a lot of time.

Posted: Sun 28 Oct 2012, 15:32
by Colonel Panic
Two duds (on my machine) to report unfortunately.

Snow Linux 3.1 was a great live disk but unfortunately it stalled when I tried to install it and didn't install completely (could have been a bad burn I suppose but then why did it work well live?).

Watt OS6 was one I wanted to like because I really like the way it looks, but I couldn't get sound working on it or install any new software. Oh well.

Posted: Wed 31 Oct 2012, 05:16
by James C
Rosa 2012 Gnome......still Gnome 2 and legacy Grub.Longtime Mandriva user so I'll give this a try.......

http://www.koryavov.net/2012/08/rosa-ma ... final.html

linux lite anyone

Posted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 02:44
by cowboy
Linux Lite anyone? Well reviewed in PC World about a week back, XFCE desktop, based on Ubuntu LTS. 5 years of updates, theoretically.

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lite

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2013183/ ... 1-0-0.html

I found an Arch Live CD today with Fluxbox

Posted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 06:26
by dennis-slacko531
It is 620MB... I've been trying to better learn Arch this is educational and strictly a live cd distro. Too bad the developer didn't consider frugal installation, but he added powerful scripts and easily installed on my 3rd ext4 partition. It was then I discovered no apps get installed, just a base Arch with Fluxbox, which is I guess the Arch way...

It may get refreshed soon, as it's about 20 months old now. Hope he believes in frugal installs like us.

http://fluxcapacity.99k.org//index.php?co%20ntent=about

Re: I found an Arch Live CD today with Fluxbox

Posted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 06:41
by James C
It is 620MB... I've been trying to better learn Arch this is educational and strictly a live cd distro. Too bad the developer didn't consider frugal installation, but he added powerful scripts and easily installed on my 3rd ext4 partition. It was then I discovered no apps get installed, just a base Arch with Fluxbox, which is I guess the Arch way...

It may get refreshed soon, as it's about 20 months old now. Hope he believes in frugal installs like us.

http://fluxcapacity.99k.org//index.php?content=about

Fixed the post... :)

Had an extra space in the url.

Posted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 06:54
by Colonel Panic
Just a quick update; I managed to get Snow Linux installed on my machine. Second time lucky I guess.

Chakra's pretty good too, although the repository's a bit limited for anyone used to a Debian-based distro.

Posted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 19:08
by James C
Recently installed Absolute 14.0 on an old P3.
http://www.absolutelinux.org/

Based on the latest Slackware 14...... kernel 3.2.29. Not bad on this old slow machine.And allows running as root too. :)

Posted: Fri 02 Nov 2012, 10:49
by Colonel Panic
James C wrote:Recently installed Absolute 14.0 on an old P3.
http://www.absolutelinux.org/

Based on the latest Slackware 14...... kernel 3.2.29. Not bad on this old slow machine.And allows running as root too. :)
Yeah, Absolute is a good Slack-based distro, and I really like the games on it (Anagramarama, Concentration and Icebreaker). I wish other distros had those even in the repos.

Has it got package management yet though? In the earlier version of Absolute I tried, you pretty much had to install packages from source and work out the dependencies yourself (the main bugbear with Slackware and its derivatives)

Posted: Fri 02 Nov 2012, 20:46
by nooby
I wish I could test latest version of Core-Plus 4.7
they tell about it on Distrowatch. Talk about smc?
whatever that is. I don't dare to ask anything on
their forum anymore. They don't like reluctant noobs
that ask same thing again and again and still not get it.

Windows 8 Pro

Posted: Fri 02 Nov 2012, 23:58
by Jim1911
I definitely prefer puppy, but the good news is that setting up and exploring Windows 8 is relatively cheap and easy. You can buy five upgrade licenses for $40. The official site states that you can upgrade from XP, Vista, or Win7. I upgraded my copy of Vista which went fine and after installation I used Fatdog 64 to reinstall grub4dos so that I could boot all my linux os. It's working great, although it was time consuming because for a Vista upgrade, all extra software has to be reinstalled. Vista users should consider the upgrade, XP or Windows 7 users probably would not benefit unless they like the new look and feel.

JIm

Posted: Sat 03 Nov 2012, 14:45
by bark_bark_bark
I am running Slackware 14.0 right now. I compiled (through SlackBuilds) openbox, and now I run Openbox as the WM for KDE. Openbox's Onyx theme goes well with the a KDE theme I am using. Openbox IS my favorite WM.

EDIT: Swapped Slackware for Zenwalk

Posted: Mon 05 Nov 2012, 07:43
by Colonel Panic
I'm also running Slack 14, which I've just installed (RC5, I don't have the full version). It's not bad except that KDE still seems to have bugs (Dolphin wouldn't let me set up a folder to unzip Opera into, for example) and you have to do more yourself to set it up than with something like Mint, which for some people is its attraction; it's like a manual gearbox on a car rather than an automatic.

It offers other options for the window manager though.

I also managed to install OpenSUSE 12.2 but sadly the internet connection failed and I couldn't get it started again. I'm going to have a look to see if I can sort it out but most likely I'll install something else in there.

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Posted: Mon 05 Nov 2012, 08:35
by Billtoo
I did a full install of Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on my Acer Aspire One
netbook.
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II Neo K125 Processor
Memory 1792MB (599MB used)
Operating System Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
User Name bill (bill)
Date/Time Mon 05 Nov 2012 03:15:36 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1024x600 pixels
OpenGL Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series
Version 3.3.11627 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes
bill@bill-Aspire-One-721:~$ glxgears
4720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 943.960 FPS
4998 frames in 5.0 seconds = 999.043 FPS
4976 frames in 5.0 seconds = 994.742 FPS
bill@bill-Aspire-One-721:~$

It's working very well on this netbook, the 11.6" screen helps.
Suspend works too.

Posted: Mon 05 Nov 2012, 23:54
by bark_bark_bark
I thin kI am going back to using slackware 14 instead on zenwalk. Slackware 14 is compatible with my wireless device, where zenwalk isn't.

Also Installed Ubuntu 12.04.1, but did a cli install then did:

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sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop xfce4 firefox thunderbird synaptic ubuntu-restricted-extras
I had to get the restricted extras because flash was not natively installed.

Posted: Tue 06 Nov 2012, 17:12
by Colonel Panic
I've just installed the latest release candidate of Salix 14 (XFCE). It's early days yet but it looks sound so far.

(Oh, and I've used the xfs filesystem to do so).