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#81 Post by Jim1911 »

Barry,
Your guess_fs-20090512.pet corrected the mounting problem with ext4 partitions on this pre-beta.
Colonel Panic wrote:I've found that most of the 4 series pups I've tried have a *problem picking up my partitions over and above about hda5; they simply don't get recognised and hence can't be mounted.
I have no problem mounting my 7+ partitions.
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#82 Post by edoc »

How will Puppy 4.3 handle Grub with Ext4, please?

Ext4 sure sounds like a good filesystem upgrade!
http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4
One very important thing to keep in mind is that there is NOT Ext4 GRUB support. Well, that wasn't exactly true: There is grub support, but it's not very spread in the currently available distros. There's ext4 support in the GRUB2 development branch, but since GRUB2 is not stable, most of distros are using the 0.9x versions.

There are available grub2 packages in Ubuntu and debian-derived distros as the grub-pc package. In the 0.9x branch, there's not official support, but there's a Google SoC project that developed support for it, and Google finds patches. So choose yourself. The next release of distros based in Linux 2.6.28 will probably have support in one way or another. The safe option is to keep your /boot directory in a partition formatted with Ext3.
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#83 Post by Jim1911 »

edoc wrote:How will Puppy 4.3 handle Grub with Ext4, please?
Your information about the stability of Grub on an ext4 partition is outdated. I don't know about Puppy's grub, but I boot Pups daily without problems from a Kubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst located on an ext4 partition. The pups are frugal installs located on ext3 partitions. I haven't tried them on a pup generated ext4 partition.

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#84 Post by gposil »

2.6.27.x is still under active development and full ext4 support is being backported to it, Barry is aware of all this and the new 2.6.27.29 kernel he is working will have full ext4 support.
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#85 Post by edoc »

Cool!

I am seriously considering upgrading all four (soon to be five) of our laptops to 4.3 when it reaches Final.

Two of the laptops are older Panasonic Toughbook CF-28's, one is an older HP, one an older Quanta Z500, and the new one is an Acer Aspire 5535-5452 (which requires support of the new Atheros b/g/n wireless nic and dual-core).

I am hoping that getting them all in the same version will simplify maintenance and resolve some interoperability challenges (especially CUPS).
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#86 Post by Colonel Panic »

Jim1911 wrote:Barry,
Your guess_fs-20090512.pet corrected the mounting problem with ext4 partitions on this pre-beta.
Colonel Panic wrote:I've found that most of the 4 series pups I've tried have a *problem picking up my partitions over and above about hda5; they simply don't get recognised and hence can't be mounted.
I have no problem mounting my 7+ partitions.
Jim :)
Thanks for replying. I think the problem is that Puppy (4, at least) is very sensitive to errors in any of the partitions, and if it finds any won't recognise the hard drive at all (I confirmed this by checking the drive with GParted).

I switched to my other Linux distro (Vector) and ran this command; e2fsck /dev/hda4

and after I'd done that, and sorted out a couple of errors on the partition, Puppy recognised both the hard drive and the hda6 partition and loaded my savefile as usual.

Maybe I need to avoid the ext2/3 filesystems in future when running my other distros, as they're prone to errors?
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#87 Post by edoc »

I was told to add "pfix=fsck" to the boot line in GRUB because I was having similar problems.

It slows the boot time but eliminates the hassle.

I gather from the description of Ext4 that this may no longer be necessary.
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Silly question

#88 Post by gyro »

How come the "ntfs-3g" in this version of puppy, is older than the "ntfs-3g" in 4.2.1?

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#89 Post by Colonel Panic »

edoc wrote:I was told to add "pfix=fsck" to the boot line in GRUB because I was having similar problems.

It slows the boot time but eliminates the hassle.

I gather from the description of Ext4 that this may no longer be necessary.
Thanks but when I boot 4.2 (I'm trying out ttuuxxx's 2.14X7 at the moment), I use a CD-R to boot from. If I type in pfix=fsck at the boot prompt instead of, say, pfix=ram, will Puppy still pick up my save file?

I suppose I could try it and find out, but it's getting late here... Maybe tomorrow.
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AGAIN !...[insert] key kills Seamonkey...

#90 Post by charlie6 »

Hi,
on ppa-422.iso
Aargh !! ...while writing a post in this forum, accidentaly pressed "0" numeric pad while "Num Lock" disabled, i.e. it means "Ins" pressed)...and Seamonkey got killed at once.
(Already reported earlier in this forum...Pizzasgood fixed this throug writing a gtk+-12-input.pet and related pets for correcting this)
see
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31069
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#91 Post by edoc »

Yes, that is an extremely frustrating bug!

It is in the default Seamonkey in Fatdog 112 as well.

For some reason it is not routinely trapped in every Puppy release of Seamonkey.

I will have a look at Pizzagood's fix.

Seamonkey 2.0 is much better on many Web sites than the prior versions but is a little unstable now and then.

With storms now forming in the Atlantic access to this site
http://media.myfoxtampabay.com/myfoxhurricane/
is really important and only Seamonkey 2.0 can handle it.
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ppa-422 testing

#92 Post by `f00 »

base ppa-422 kernel 2.6.29.6 liveCD

___update'090816
('fresh') - Applied pizzagood's shutdown.rc mod to enable a save/nosave dialogue for reboot/poweroff and it seems to work (but not quite as clean as multisession liveCD), some remnants remain in .2fs of pet installs/uninstalls (often with these, there are extra files and scripts in / dir). PPM doesn't seem to be entirely reliable for uninstalls (on either stick-fresh or multisession-upgrade), sometimes it simply deletes the *.files summary in .packages (so I generally save a copy externally for if a manual re-do is needed). Advantages (and disadvantages) to either method of saving sessions - the squash-incompatibility (clickmount/unmount fails, etc) seems more awkward to recover from on multisession (haven't tried the middle-way kernel yet). Likely will skip over the reloaded (pbr?) for ppa-422.. Trio's jwmthememaker works nicely.
endupdate______

liveCD multisession (upgrade of uP476 to P417 to ppa422)
.. is a bit problematical but seems to have mostly sorted over seven savedirs - :lol: the defaulttexteditor script seems to be a blank file now (which is oki as I generally like to choose editor by intent and Zedit opens when I don't care) .. pictureviewer, meh (imo) .. 'aftermarket/unofficial' jwm2-enhancements work well .. wm-compatibility the same as P417 (AfterStep, Blackbox, Openbox and Jwm-beta) .. htop still needs start from console (just a flicker on menu/wbar launch) but urxvt options display as expected on the upgrade.

liveCD (boot) and ppasave.2fs ('fresh')
.. actually seems easier to get things working properly with fresh installs rather than trying to troubleshoot the upgrade. Some fun with Kernel panic until I found that somehow (and yes, I deliberately entered *NO* when prompted to copy ppa-422.sfs to the zip100 .. :lol: not hardly any room for a savefile if that happened, eh?) a severely truncated (8192k) ppa-422.sfs was actually made (one would imagine a sanity check or something would have made that a non-issue, but stuff happens) ... so, possibly zip100 is not a good media choice for this pup (np, just not as expected having the unasked-for truncated copy messing with). Booted fine after I figured the issue out on the multisession-upgrade and copied the full sfs and 2fs to a thumbdrive. Htop starts fine from menu or wbar .. some oddnesses with urxvt and the -tr, shade and fade options (starts fully -tr including window decor with just -fg visible, rollup/down the window and it shifts the bg to I think the jwm active border color).

a few scattered observations/imo on the base
(a peek in pfix=ram mode) .. now I recall many of the simple things that are still not-so-good-imo (call it beta and get some fresh testers - a *simple* text viewer-and-or-'editor', please .. that script in /usr/bin is still not leafpad) .. medit is good, but smallish fonts suffer :| .. yah, it's a balance, but the menu looks better (if there's a lot of stuff in the 2nd tier, 16 still gives visual cues in compact form) .. pcd works fine, freememapp lifts off when jwm reloaded, pmount works but still? seems to have some issues with tabnames in that mode (mixed up optical/floppy/usb?) and the annoying yaf 2-step for driveicon-Roxwindow after the 1st easy .. plus it fails to eject CD on reboot/poweroff :( so the system-halt instead of full-down poweroff is actually a good thing :)

hmmz, seems Barry is on top of the clickmount (sfs or 2fs) umount=fail thing on his blog (see squash & loop stuff) .. oya, a 1st try upgrade of P412bone1 (retro kernel 2.6.21.7) to ppa-422 pretty much failed - some stuff oki but a lot more wrong than right even though it actually booted and displayed (xfburn scrub that disc)
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petget does not excute puninstall.sh

#93 Post by shinobar »

petget seems not excuting puninstall.sh when uninstalling packages.

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#94 Post by dejan555 »

Hi, first time trying this prebeta, not much to report, but I tried installing firefox 3.5 pet and when I wanted to execute it it froze whole system, I couldn't catch output, all i could do is ctrl alt backspace and it didn't even drop me to shell, screen blackened out and only thing i could do is hard reboot. Don't know if this happend to anyone, didn't follow thread, sorry!
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#95 Post by ttuuxxx »

dejan555 wrote:Hi, first time trying this prebeta, not much to report, but I tried installing firefox 3.5 pet and when I wanted to execute it it froze whole system, I couldn't catch output, all i could do is ctrl alt backspace and it didn't even drop me to shell, screen blackened out and only thing i could do is hard reboot. Don't know if this happend to anyone, didn't follow thread, sorry!
Did you install dbus and dbusglib ? first and then Firefox?
That usually helps the stability, also was it a pet, or did you install it by yourself?
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#96 Post by 01micko »

hi ttuuxxx

I tried with dbus and dbusglib to runfirefox-3.5 but no go.

I have the source for firefox 3.5.2 so will try a complile in 4.3beta1. See what happens :)

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#97 Post by ttuuxxx »

01micko wrote:hi ttuuxxx

I tried with dbus and dbusglib to runfirefox-3.5 but no go.

I have the source for firefox 3.5.2 so will try a complile in 4.3beta1. See what happens :)

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I'm npt using 4.3 right now, too busy on 2.14X&Dpup :) buttt
Usually for ff3.5 series I extract the compiled mozilla release in /lib/firefox
forget about using /usr/lib/firefox
/lib/firefox works better it doesn't get paths crossed with seamonkey :) I figured that one out 4 months back,lol slow learner, lol
anyhoot basically once thats extracted in /lib/firefox and you have have dbus and dbusglib installed then open the ff folder and highlite all the .so files in lib/firefox and system-link them in /lib should be about 15 or so.
then click on the firefox script and it should start right up.
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#98 Post by 01micko »

I'm trying the full on compile :) (the source is 45 meg.. but you can compile seamonkey, thunderbird, xulrunner, firefox) . Certainly a learning curve involved, I hope i got my ".mozconfig" file right!

If it fails I'll try your method.

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#99 Post by 01micko »

hmmmmm...

Well my compile of Firefox-3.5.2 did end up successful... but not with kernel 2.6.29.6.. or 2.6.29.4.... however it worked in 421 with kernel 2.6.15.16... :? :? :?

I compiled it in 4.3beta1 k2.6.29.6 with (what I thought) conservative options in my '.mozconfig'. It ended up less than 10MB anyway so that is ok. "./Configure" went fine, took 5 min, "make" took 1hr 25 min! (athlon 1733MHz, 768MB ram :o )

Results:

Puppy 423 PPA beta1... failed completely at the "import" stage (as same as other builds), killed pupsave :(

Spup (built from woof, a July build, k 2.6.29.4)... nothing..... from term ... nothing.... hung system, hard reboot ( :( ) ... saved pupsave :)

Puppy 421, k 2.6.25.16... worked perfectly,, :? ... (:P ... yes razbrilla!).. why? I have no idea.

Why can't firefox be used with these late model kernel Pups??? Maybe someone with more experience should compile..... I've compiled apps for awhile, but usually only for myself... :twisted:
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#100 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hey mic did you try my method? its a lot quicker, lol last time I tried ff3.5 on 4 series it ran ran nice, not 100& like 2.14X or Dpup but close. I think it was 416A that I tried it on.
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