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joel · #81 Post by **joel** » Sat 01 May 2010, 23:53

I just wanted to say thanks again, Im loving enlightenment again, and I think this will be my primary pup from now on. Thanks

Puppy Linux raised to the 4.3rd power + Eye Candy raised to the 17th power = The 100% Best OS ever! Eat this MS.

runtt21 · #82 Post by **runtt21** » Sun 02 May 2010, 01:47

Thank you Joel !!

WhoDo · #83 Post by **WhoDo** » Sun 02 May 2010, 02:53

runtt21 wrote:You can have bookmarks in usr/lib/firefox but these are like the pre-installed ones once you start using firefox all your new bookmarks and settings/skins are in root/.mozilla .

Why not just make root/.mozilla a symlink to the same directory outside the pup_save.2fs file? Sure you can't do that by default, as nooby expects, but individual users certainly can set up their Puppy partition that way by following the instructions in the referenced thread. Maybe someone could develop a script to perform these steps on demand after installation, so the technically-challenged can perform the task with single click.

As for nooby's request to have that arrangement OOB, that's simply not possible IMHO. It would require pointing $HOME at some location outside of the pup_xxx.2fs file and then how could you carry through the default settings for use with each new installation? Doesn't seem feasible to me but maybe one of the devs knows better.

nooby · #84 Post by **nooby** » Sun 02 May 2010, 06:28

Edit.

Now I know why I have failed to learn how to do symlinking. Barry K gave the answer to another guy.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 910#414910
it is a limitation of the FAT and NTFS filesystems. They do not support symlinks.

Who could have guessed that that was the reason? I had no clue. I thought me very stupid. Every time me tried it refused to make a symlink

Now I know. the hardware software don't allow it for my machine if I want to keep Vista on it which I do want to keep.

My original text follows

WhoDo, I wish I could ask Beem and Puppyluvr again but I guess they are fed up with my inability to grasp their descriptions. whodo thanks for your suggestion of how it could be accomplished.

If it is as bad as Runt tells us here and why should I not believe him, he is a dev so he should grasp such logically.

It either means that Beem and Puppyluvr accept those restrictions or constrains and still see it as less problematic than to have a totally fresh environ each time on change puppy to help out Barry and all the others when they ask for feedback on their experiments.

Could one maybe have two different Firefox outside of the pupsave and if one fail the other works and both can export the bookmarks and other settings to each other?

I mean how many different Firefox versions would one need to cover those different puppies we have now that are most popular?

I have not make use of Lighthouse puppy since that thread.

Just now those I use most are

Quirky 21 the one I write from now.
Lucid puppy version 114 or 000
Puppy431std
Macpup
Puppy Stardust

All the other 20 or so Puppy subdirectiories on my HDD where only set up out of curiosity.

I would be surprised if I need more than two different Firefox for these ones?

Quirky 21 the one I write from now.
Lucid puppy version 114 or 000
Puppy431std
Macpup
Puppy Stardust

But I do trust that I need at least two. Lucid needs its own version?

but
Quirky 21 Puppy431std Macpup Puppy Stardust can all of them use same FF don't they?

Here is an important fact!

Long story short, all my (eleven) Pups share ONE Firefox, which also helps because the browser cache is outside your pupsave..

Maybe he has not made use of Lucid pup yet so he is in for a surprice.

But eleven modern puppies can all make use of the Firefox he use and I hope he use the latest Firefox 3.6.3 for those eleven.

I only need somebody to help me set it up and I can also have one FF or eleven different puppies. Would be good indeed to have instead of as now I have to spend hours on how to set each FF up again.

nooby · #85 Post by **nooby** » Sun 02 May 2010, 07:24

Could one go the opposite way. To move a copy of Firefox to mnt/home and when trying out a new puppy one make a copy of that remote FF placed into the new puppy in the proper place because that puppy doesn't have any FF yet so adding it is no big deal?

runtt21 · #86 Post by **runtt21** » Sun 02 May 2010, 22:35

Bummer, We dropped back to #8 today . But that's ok O2 is off to a great start . I am very happy with it.

Something else I thought of nooby, if each of those pups is on it own partition links would also be a problem. If you use the same .pet to install Fireofx each time all you need to do it make a .tgz out of /root/.mozilla and unpack it in /root of the new pup before you run firefox and you will have all your stuff. Click on the eye in rox to see hidden folders. COPY .mozilla into my documents. Go into that folder and rename .mozilla to just mozilla getting rid of the . so it isn't hidden anymore. Open a terminal in my documents and run dir2tgz mozilla . It will make mozilla.tgz .You can move that anywhere you want . In the new pup install firefox then move the .tgz to /root . click on it to unpack it . Then rename the folder back to .mozilla and you should be good to go.

nooby · #87 Post by **nooby** » Mon 03 May 2010, 06:14

Runt thanks.

I have to do it practically to know if it did work.

I got a Quirky21 version of FF3.6.3 to work on both new Q that had no knowledge of FF and Lupu with no prior usage of FF to keep both bookmarks and addons

but totally failed four times testing with puppy431 and macpup
so something are different there. Yes I used the pet for 431 and not thje one for lupu so I have two different safe backup of FF one for the latest versions of Q and Lupu and one for 431 puppies

I have to learn what is needed to be included and where.

abushcrafter gave me a script here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 148#415148

but I don't want a script that I have no insight in what it really does. I want to do it manually so I know what is going on.
I don't want to be non polite to him putting that much effort into it and me comes out as hard to satisfy.

joel · #88 Post by **joel** » Mon 03 May 2010, 17:42

Hey all, I just did some editing of the BarrocStars wallpaper, which in itself I think is an edit of Sabana Night. Well here's my edit, Buffalo at Night. Its just some twinkling stars over a part of downtown Buffalo which a few shooting stars in the mix. This is about the best I'll be able to do because I know no programing at all, but if any one like it I've put it up here. It was mostly for my own kicks but I hope someone like it.

runtt21 · #89 Post by **runtt21** » Mon 03 May 2010, 21:03

Very cool Joel thanks !!!

omskates · #90 Post by **omskates** » Tue 04 May 2010, 00:18

Is there a module for "zoom" on the ibar rather than pulse during mouse over? Or do I need compositing for that? Thanks

crshbndct · #91 Post by **crshbndct** » Tue 04 May 2010, 12:05

anyne have any idea why when i reboot macpup, it doesnt prompt me to create a pup_save file?

i have tried for days now to figure it out.

or is there a utility which will create the file, that i can then somehow point my menu.lst to it?

edit: i am getting really bored of having to configure keyboard, video network every startup. do pup-save files from normal versions work with macpup?

songzi · #92 Post by **songzi** » Tue 04 May 2010, 15:39

crshbndct wrote:anyne have any idea why when i reboot macpup, it doesnt prompt me to create a pup_save file?

i have tried for days now to figure it out.

or is there a utility which will create the file, that i can then somehow point my menu.lst to it?

edit: i am getting really bored of having to configure keyboard, video network every startup. do pup-save files from normal versions work with macpup?

I had similar problem, but with help from runtt21 it has been resolved. Try this:

when booting macpup, try using xvesa, instead of xorg
when you reboot or poweroff, it will prompt you to choose save or not to save

runtt21 · #93 Post by **runtt21** » Tue 04 May 2010, 21:34

omskates, "Is there a module for "zoom" on the ibar rather than pulse during mouse over? " Ibar animations are controlled by the theme , Some of the older themes zoom.

crshbndct How are you running O2 ? Just live off the cd or what kind of install do you have?

crshbndct · #94 Post by **crshbndct** » Tue 04 May 2010, 23:50

i just booted off the normal standard 431 cd, and it asked for pupsave file. then when i rebooted all my settings were saved

all hail puppy!!

omskates · #95 Post by **omskates** » Wed 05 May 2010, 04:18

runtt21 wrote:omskates, "Is there a module for "zoom" on the ibar rather than pulse during mouse over? " Ibar animations are controlled by the theme , Some of the older themes zoom.

Thanks
runtt,
There are relatively few E17 dedicated distros but being you have a developer's interest in the WM I'm sure you check these out. I noticed Elive 2.0 "stable" came out recently and I'm interested in what your take is on that distro as well as how he handles his "donation" strategy. Also some of these larger sized distros that have their E17 versions (PCLinuxOS for example); what do you think of?

runtt21 · #96 Post by **runtt21** » Wed 05 May 2010, 21:16

As far as Elive goes , what he chooses to do is his business. It's not place to comment on what he does. Just like I really dont care what he may or may not think of macpup.

But feel free to compare us with Elive or Opengeu or moonos. How big are their .iso vs. ours? Just running live off the cd ,How long does it take their systems to load vs. us? How much ram or resources do they use compared to us? How fast do apps load on their system vs. ours ? How many apps do they include with their system vs. us? How well do their apps perform vs. ours? You'll be surprised.

crshbndct i have never had a problem getting O2 to make a pup-save.

joel · #97 Post by **joel** » Thu 06 May 2010, 00:50

Well I got to editing wallpapers again, and this time I remembered there was always thus panoramic shot of the Martian sunset I had that was take by one of the landers on Mars years ago. I edited the Blue Eyed Trees wallpaper and used the Martian sunset as a substitute hope you enjoy.

Edit: BTW see if you can find the little blue star. I figured since from Earth we see a little red star in the sky which is Mars, from the surface of Mars you should be able to see Earth.

runtt21 · #98 Post by **runtt21** » Thu 06 May 2010, 21:08

Very Cool Joel !!! You even posted it at e17stuff !!!!

http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/M ... ent=124231

joel · #99 Post by **joel** » Thu 06 May 2010, 23:38

yea I dont know whats gotten into me lately but Ive been making a bunch, err rather editing to make new ones. I tried my hand at figuring out the code, but that didnt work. I want to try and get the people using e17 to think about using macpup. Puppy Linux is so much nicer for it, have you seen some of those other e17 distros? There like 700mb.

omskates · #100 Post by **omskates** » Fri 07 May 2010, 05:12

I was looking back at the earlier versions, what a lot of work has been done! Would there be any circumstances in which the others would be recommended or not recommended? Does earlier Macpup Opera play nicely with certain hardware for example?
Anyway I thought the comparison of the recent 4 versions at a glance was interesting.

Macpup Opera 2.0 (a.k.a. O2)
based on 4.3.1 (k2.6.30.5)
Dbus 1.2.16 .
e17 version .061

Macpup Foxy 3.0
based on 4.31.1 (k2.6.30.5)
Dbus 1.2.16 & Sakura 1.2.3
e17 version .062

Macpup Opera 061
based on 4.2v2 (k2.6.25.16)
Dbus 1.2.4
e17 version .061

Macpup Opera
based on 4.2v2.
Dbus 1.2.4
e17 desktop version .060

Macpup Foxy E17
Based on Puppy 412 (k2.6.21.7)
Dbus 1.2.4
e17 v .050

Macpup E17
Based on Puppy 412 (k2.6.21.7)
E17 v .032

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e17 animated wallpaper

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