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Posted: **Wed 22 May 2013, 17:22**

ETP wrote:The only issue so far was when I decided to switch from the Nouveau driver to the nvidia-glx-319.17-k3.2.44.sfs.
In order to persuade it to load I first had to blacklist the Nouveau module.Upon re-booting it then picked it up straight away rather than the NV driver.

Like ETP I had to blacklist nouveau before nvidia 304.88 from an sfs produced by getnvidia 0.9.1 pet would work - xorgwizard did not offer nvidia as a possibility.

Regards
peebee

Posted: **Wed 22 May 2013, 17:48**

peebee wrote:xorgwizard did not offer nvidia as a possibility.

Unfriendly for a new user.

Posted: **Wed 22 May 2013, 18:13**

I downloaded 5.6 iso and created a bootable USB within Slacko.

Everything seems to work fine except:

1 I don't get an option to put the savefile on sda1 (where the slacksave lives, ext3) although I can mount it fine

2 When I try to save to sdb1 (the boot usb, vfat) it gets as far as exiting X and showing the 'saving' message but then hangs. Savefile requested is 128mb on a 2gb stick so plenty of room

This is on a Pentium M IBM Thinkpad T42 1Gb RAM. Not sure what other useful info I can provide?

Paul

Posted: **Wed 22 May 2013, 20:18**

None of the Precise 5.x series seem to work with my intel audio chip. I've posted about the problem in other threads, asked for advice. No reaction at all, so I'll stop trying.

Just as an aside, Slacko, FatSlacko, Rarin and Upup Precise all recognize the sound chip and Retrovol works.

Thom

Posted: **Wed 22 May 2013, 20:22**

peebee wrote:Like ETP I had to blacklist nouveau before nvidia 304.88 from an sfs produced by getnvidia 0.9.1 pet would work - xorgwizard did not offer nvidia as a possibility

If you run the proprietary nvidia installer it detects if nouveau is loaded. It gives an error but it offers to install a small file into /etc/modprobe.d to disable nouveau for you (on reboot) so the driver can be installed on the second try.

When I was tinkering with making a .pet of the nvidia 173.14.37 driver for Dpup Wheezy I opted to place this disabler file in the .pet along with the message telling the user to reboot. On reboot nouveau has been disabled and xorg wizard offers the nvidia driver.

Uninstallation removes this file and restores nouveau availability.

I am still not sure if this is the best way. I guess nouveau becomes permanently unavailable while ever nvidia driver is installed but theoretically you don't need it any more. There used to be a nouveau unloader in the old xorg wizard but has that mechanism been changed now?

If the switch can't be done without a reboot (?) then a reboot followed by a run of xorg wizard is just about as smooth as it can get I guess.

Posted: **Wed 22 May 2013, 22:00**

Torrent for download and sharing:

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 06:50**

have 2 sound cards. alsawizard choses the right one but retrovol is not properly affected ie. shows hw0 instead hw1 (in my case). doesnt work even on rebooting/making savefile. solution right click sound icon in tray=>cofig window=>hardware replacing hw:0 to hw:1 manually then enabling speaker and other items works. on previous precise (5.5.92 or 93 dont remember)worked OOTB.

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 09:46**

OscarTalks wrote:
peebee wrote:Like ETP I had to blacklist nouveau before nvidia 304.88 from an sfs produced by getnvidia 0.9.1 pet would work - xorgwizard did not offer nvidia as a possibility
If you run the proprietary nvidia installer it detects if nouveau is loaded. It gives an error but it offers to install a small file into /etc/modprobe.d to disable nouveau for you (on reboot) so the driver can be installed on the second try.

When I was tinkering with making a .pet of the nvidia 173.14.37 driver for Dpup Wheezy I opted to place this disabler file in the .pet along with the message telling the user to reboot. On reboot nouveau has been disabled and xorg wizard offers the nvidia driver.

Uninstallation removes this file and restores nouveau availability.

I am still not sure if this is the best way. I guess nouveau becomes permanently unavailable while ever nvidia driver is installed but theoretically you don't need it any more. There used to be a nouveau unloader in the old xorg wizard but has that mechanism been changed now?

If the switch can't be done without a reboot (?) then a reboot followed by a run of xorg wizard is just about as smooth as it can get I guess.

I have fixed xorgwizard so that it does offer the nvidia driver, however I do need to know one thing:

Could you please tell me, when the official nvidia installer offers to blacklist the nouveau kernel driver, and you accept, what is the name of the file it creates in /etc/modprobe.d, and what is it's exact content?

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 10:06**

for_wov wrote:have 2 sound cards. alsawizard choses the right one but retrovol is not properly affected ie. shows hw0 instead hw1 (in my case). doesnt work even on rebooting/making savefile. solution right click sound icon in tray=>cofig window=>hardware replacing hw:0 to hw:1 manually then enabling speaker and other items works. on previous precise (5.5.92 or 93 dont remember)worked OOTB.

That's interesting. Precise 5.6 has retrovol 0.13 from the creator pizzasgood, whereas previous pups have 0.12.

Perhaps we need a consensus on whether 0.12 is actually better?

Note, you can get 0.12 from here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... l-0.12.pet

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 11:18**

Hi

Precise 5.6 works very fine on my 2 PCs.

One detail would be interesting to search a consensus: The libflashplayer.so is 5 Mb smaller but old and doesn't really allow to access to all purposes offered by flashplayer. So considered are only 12 Mb to much where 17 Mb would work perfectly

...
As divers guy's prefer other browser (I am a Seamonkey fan since Mozilla did come into Puppy), it would probably be better to split the main *sfs and always add browser + flashplayer separately!

(Perhaps a start point for a new concept, a modular Puppy? With a main *sfs with one, internet pack, or two modules, internet pack + office pack separately as all that are really heavy applications needing much room in the ISO and are never used if you don't adhere to the choice)

Kind regards

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 12:05**

Hi !!

How to avoid savings to Usb Flash.

Found another solution for problem---installing pets, debs or downloads from PPmanager and--- „ not to save them to USB Flash on demand, without spoiling PPmanager „--- Works for Puppy Precise ,(,probably on Raring too .did not test yet )

1.Download somewhere the script „nosaveshutdown „ make it executable .

2. Goto Puppy Event Manager > Save Session > Save interval (0=never )
Save to flash....Restart

3.Install petget20120418.pet from
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/

Save to flash ..restart
Now you can install pets debs or downloads from PPmanager without spoiling it..If you like to keep them
either use „save2flash „ during session without shutting down ,
or saving session at shutdown ..just shutdown as usual session will be saved.

In case you dont want to save Changes /session ...just execute the script above „nosaveshutdown“ . Nothing will be saved to Flash .This works for me onPrecise Puppy 5.6 . Probobly on UPUP RARING too (did not test it yet)

Install petget20120418.pet from
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 12:21**

BarryK wrote:I have fixed xorgwizard so that it does offer the nvidia driver, however I do need to know one thing:

Could you please tell me, when the official nvidia installer offers to blacklist the nouveau kernel driver, and you accept, what is the name of the file it creates in /etc/modprobe.d, and what is it's exact content?

Hello BarryK,

The file is named nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf

and just contains:-

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# generated by nvidia-installer
blacklist nouveau
options nouveau modeset=0

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 12:35**

i made some pets of the amd graphic drivers for precise 5.6..... first one's for modern cards, second for older legacy cards. i can't test the legacy driver as i don't have the right card. let me know if it's ok

http://www.wuala.com/666philb/Documents ... .2.44.pet/ 55mb
MD5 88aaab74dd218a3a874cbd98f4b2de5f

http://www.wuala.com/666philb/Documents ... .2.44.pet/55mb
MD5 919fdf82fddc7b3e8412942c5c0bf1df

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 12:49**

For the Nvidia driver for Precise Puppy 5.6, try getnvidia-0.9.2.
# 22may2013: fix NVIDIA-*.run check (thanks to peebee)
# 23may2012: fix disablenouveau (thanks to peebee)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72405

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 13:33**

robwoj44 has not been able to let fido change back to login as root, see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 4&start=45

I have found that

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#  echo "$ADMINPASSWORD" | su root

does not work at all. fido stays fido.

So I tried our (good old

) sudo -A ${0} ${@} ...
... and it works.

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#!/bin/sh
#note, root2user called via shutdownconfig, changes root to fido.
#110507 TaZOC bug fix.
#120201 rodin.s: internationalized.
#120323 replace 'xmessage' with 'pupmessage'.
#120409 if using minit instead of busybox init.
#130523 L18L: HOMEUSER, sudo, without ADMINPASSWORD

export TEXTDOMAIN=loginmanager
export TEXTDOMAINDIR=/usr/share/locale
export OUTPUT_CHARSET=UTF-8

#HOMEUSER="`whoami`"
[ "`whoami`" != "root" ] && exec sudo -A ${0} ${@} #130523
HOMEUSER="`grep autologin /etc/inittab | cut -d ' ' -f3`" #130523
[ $HOMEUSER ] || HOMEUSER=$USER #130523

CHANGE2ROOT=""
if [ "$HOMEUSER" != "root" ];then # without ADMINPASSWORD
 CHANGE2ROOT="<text><label>$(gettext 'However, if you wish, you can change to the administrator (root) permanently on the next boot. Just tick this box and it will be so:')</label></text>
  <checkbox>
   <label>$(gettext 'Tick box to become administrator permanently')</label>
   <default>false</default>
   <variable>CHECKADMIN</variable>
  </checkbox>
 <text><label>$(gettext 'This will take affect after reboot.')</label></text>
 "

fi

export MAIN_DIALOG="
<window title=\"LoginManager\" icon-name=\"gtk-execute\">
 <vbox>
  <text use-markup=\"true\"><label>\"<b>$(gettext 'Currently you are logged in as') '${HOMEUSER}'</b>\"</label></text>
  
  ${CHANGE2ROOT}
  
  <hbox>
   <button ok></button>
   <button cancel></button>
  </hbox>
 </vbox>
</window>
"

RETSTRING="`gtkdialog3 --program=MAIN_DIALOG --center`"
[ $? -ne 0 ] && exit

#echo "$RETSTRING"
eval "$RETSTRING"
[ "$EXIT" != "OK" ] && exit

#if [ "$CHANGE2ROOT" != "" ];then
 if [ "$CHECKADMIN" = "true" ];then
  # echo "$ADMINPASSWORD" | su root #130523
  #if [ $? -ne 0 ];then
  # pupmessage -bg red -title "$(gettext 'LoginManager: error')" -center "$(gettext 'Sorry, admin password is wrong')"
  # exit
  #fi #130523
  rootEXPR="s%^tty1.*%tty1::respawn:/sbin/mingetty --autologin root tty1%"
  sed -i -e "$rootEXPR" /etc/inittab #110507 TaZOC bug fix.
  
  #120409 if using minit instead of busybox init...
  if [ -f /etc/minit/getty/1/params  ];then #see my minit pet pkg.
   EXPR2='s%^fido$%root%'
   sed -i -e "$EXPR2" /etc/minit/getty/1/params
  fi
  pupmessage -bg green -center -title "$(gettext 'Login Manager: OK')" "$(gettext 'Ok, you will be administrator at next boot')"
 fi
#fi

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 14:12**

OscarTalks wrote:
BarryK wrote:I have fixed xorgwizard so that it does offer the nvidia driver, however I do need to know one thing:

Could you please tell me, when the official nvidia installer offers to blacklist the nouveau kernel driver, and you accept, what is the name of the file it creates in /etc/modprobe.d, and what is it's exact content?
Hello BarryK,

The file is named nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf

and just contains:-
Code: Select all
# generated by nvidia-installer
blacklist nouveau
options nouveau modeset=0

Thanks for that. I think now the xorgwizard is friendly toward the NVIDIA driver when it is installed, see my blog post:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00256

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 16:25**

In parallel with BK's changes for nvidia described here, Shinobar has released getnvidia 0.9.2 which creates an sfs which loads successfully onto the current Precise 5.6 and after a reboot the nvidia driver is being used and also is displayed as an option by xorgwizard.

Hopefully the changes made by BK and Shinobar will prove to be complementary....

Cheers
peebee

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 16:34**

I guess I can read more about this on Barry's log or the announcement part of the forum?

"including a new X.Org video wizard (with forced-reboot recovery mechanism),"

obviously I have not payed attention.

has there been changes since 5.5.94 or are these twins
only that it became the official

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 18:40**

Manual frugal install to a 16gb SDHC card which is plugged into a usb
card reader, running on a Compaq desktop pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Thu 23 May 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.6 Linux 3.2.44 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108
[GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 319.23
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.396 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.020 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.020 FPS
#
Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 MHz
Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter
I installed the proprietary Nvidia driver for my graphics card.
Installed lots of applications with ppm.
Precise 5.6 is working well, no problems.

Posted: **Thu 23 May 2013, 23:05**

Hi Barry,

I've tested the new xorg crash recovery mechanism (as explained here)

The Woof-level notes above state that this pup has a new Xorg Video Wizard and a "recovery mechanism". if you bootup and do not get a graphical desktop, and the keyboard/mouse have hung, which can happen with some troublesome old video hardware, press the 'reset' button on the PC or hold down the 'power' button for 4 seconds to force a shutdown -- at next startup the "recovery mechanism" kicks in, forcing the Xorg Video Wizard to run. Then, you can try an alternate Xorg driver.
As this is a new feature, I welcome feedback, especially tweaks for the /usr/sbin/xorgwizard-cli script, if you know Bash coding!

...tested on my Asus 1225c which is equiped with Atom cedar trails. And it does not work for me. At first pass: black screen. Reboot. Second pass: black screen.

So far, the only puppies that could boot were Racy v5.5 and upup-precise 3.8.3. These two boots into 1024x768. Then when running xorg video wizard manually and ask for a probe, will allow the 1366x768 ; Important to note: the screen in text mode to chose between probe, test... is too big and goes out of the screen ! So you need to type in blind (enter the first time, because hopefully this is the default, then enter again when the screen resolution is selected) because you don't see the buttons. It seems the issue is common and most people when having video problems get down to 1024x768 so maybe it would be good to adapt the message for that size so anyone can see the buttons to press.

Best regards
Laurent

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Intel Audio Chip

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multiple sound cards

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How to avoid savings to Usb Flash.

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getnvidia-0.9.2

/usr/sbin/loginmanager

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