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Posted: Wed 15 Jun 2011, 02:07
by tallboy
yarddog and majorfoo, I don't know if I am just confusing with my suggestion, because I don't know how fuzzy CUPS/Brother is regarding drivers. I see from the driver selection, that the driver you chose is the only one using Foomatic, the others are CUPS+Gutenprint, so my 2¢: Try the next one on the list instead, and see if it works.

Tallboy.

Posted: Wed 15 Jun 2011, 03:10
by rcrsn51
What is meaning of "Empty print file!" shown above beside printer name
It needs libpoppler3 from the lenny repo. Get it here.

Posted: Wed 15 Jun 2011, 04:07
by yarddog
rcrsn51 wrote:
What is meaning of "Empty print file!" shown above beside printer name
It needs libpoppler3 from the lenny repo.
Thanks for info. I have already removed the full install of dpup-485.
I will boot live cd, get libpoppler3 and see if this solves my problem.

Posted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 01:01
by yarddog
tallboy wrote:yarddog and majorfoo, I don't know if I am just confusing with my suggestion, because I don't know how fuzzy CUPS/Brother is regarding drivers. I see from the driver selection, that the driver you chose is the only one using Foomatic, the others are CUPS+Gutenprint, so my 2¢: Try the next one on the list instead, and see if it works.

Tallboy.
The one I chose (Printer Driver: Brother HL-2040 Foomatic/hl1250 (recommended) was recommended choice when I set up printer. I changed to next entry in line CUPS+Gutenprint and still did not work.
I just downloaded libpoppler3 thatrcrsn51 suggested = it needs libpoppler3 from the lenny repo. Get it here.
Last edited by rcrsn51 on Today, at 09:48; edited 1 time in total

Will try that next and post reply

yarddog

Posted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 01:03
by yarddog
rcrsn51 wrote:
What is meaning of "Empty print file!" shown above beside printer name
It needs libpoppler3 from the lenny repo. Get it here.
Downloaded above referenced lib.deb, installed and viola, printer works in abiword.

Many thanks for your assistance

yarddog

Posted: Sun 19 Jun 2011, 05:37
by tallboy
Missing library: libical.so.0

Osmo complains that libical.so.0 is missing, and refuses to open.

I remember having to download it to my dpup4.84beta4 also, to get Osmo to work there, I got it from Lenny.

Tallboy.

Posted: Sun 19 Jun 2011, 06:19
by tallboy
I tried to update the package repo in the PPM.

First of all, it ran for app. one hour, updating all 20 odd thousand package descriptions to puppy format.

Secondly, I suddenly have 19 different repos to choose from in the PPM now, with additions like debian-lenny-mainpre, or puppy-5-official, puppy-5-official1 or maybe puppy-5-official2.
This function is a mess. Don't try it.

Another function that is available in other puppys (5.2.5), is the one that lets you remove preinstalled packages. It is not very exact, I have to use a file finder to remove the remaining libs and confs, but I miss it in dpup anyway. Rumor has it that there is a very nice package in the latest Linux Mint, that does exactly that. In Debian there is also a command 'purge' in apt-get and aptitude, that remove conf-files and libs after de-installing a package.

dejan555, are you, or someone else, gathering all dpup4.85 (and 4.84beta4) bugs, missing packages and tips for future refinement? It would be nice to have a completely bug- and problem free dpup, using the 2.6.30.5 kernel. It's only a matter of polishing...

Tallboy.

Posted: Sun 19 Jun 2011, 08:59
by dejan555
Uh, I'm not really taking notes but it could be collected.
I really don't have any clue about PPM, I hardly ever use it.
We need more devs for completely bug free release.

Posted: Sun 19 Jun 2011, 23:08
by tallboy
dejan555, yes, I guess we will never have a dpup meeting the demands from all kinds of machines or external attachments.

I thought more in the line of having at least all the pre-installed programs working as they should, like having the correct libs for Cups and Osmo to work, an Abiword not closing at a wim, all the wm and builtin functions functioning. I would like every clicked button to produce the result we expect! There has not been a single puppy release where everything has worked right 'out of the box', but it should be possible, don't you think?

Tallboy.

Posted: Mon 20 Jun 2011, 06:59
by aarf
dejan555 wrote:
I really don't have any clue about PPM, I hardly ever use it.
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no matter the puppy.if it isnt in the murga forum, the first place i look for things to install is by google search of debian repositories. download the deb and click it. :shock:

Posted: Mon 20 Jun 2011, 08:10
by dejan555
Same here, even before woof and deb support in ppm I used to manually download stuff from deb repos and dependencies and then undeb / deb2pet them or if it's large number of deps just undeb and merge all of them and make one package, that's how I made amarok sfs back on 4.x series from debs.

BTW, this one still work on dpup 485:
amarok-1.4.10-lite-dpup_484.sfs 33 MBs

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 01:42
by harii4
Any plans for an dpup barebones?
That would be neat to have one.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 07:29
by Iguleder
I started working on a Debian Testing dpup, I need a good testing ground for new ideas I have.

If it's any good, I'll upload it and make some good packages you can use too.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 07:59
by dejan555
New idea: make a barebones one from the start! Then maybe a sfs for standard apps that come with puppy and browser chooser? :lol:

Once I stripped 484's sfs down to about 112 MB but I removed almost all apps with only dillo as browser. It could be stripped further but didn't know what libs to remove.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 09:45
by Iguleder
Yep, that's the idea - I want a barebones dpup so I can build all apps using build scripts and make it a rolling-release, upgradeable Puppy by design.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 10:11
by Stripe
iguleder and dejan555

I really like what I am reading here, a puppy with packages compiled for individual machines, good luck

stripe

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 15:28
by Béèm
Iguleder,
That idea of puppizard looks nice.
Would it generate the application inside the save file or is/will there be a possibility to create a sfs?

Posted: Thu 14 Jul 2011, 22:26
by darkcity
added to wiki, update and expand as you like ; -)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/DPup485

Posted: Sat 16 Jul 2011, 09:18
by Iguleder
Good news, dejan555 - I was able to build a working barebones dpup at ~80 MB, no apps except JWM and ROX-Filer. The kernel is 2.6.32.42, since 2.6.32.43 failed to build on Lupu. I'm going to give it another try, but on dpup, because I like its GCC better :)

Now I'm running Puppizard to build all the latest Puppy apps, fonts and E17. I might upload it if it's any good.

It seems very very very snappy, Opera flies on my cheap netbook. Too bad I can't measure its RAM usage, I left Pprocess out :lol:

EDIT: forgot to mention - I stripped about ~10-15 MB of unneeded libraries and leftovers and had to fix X, because it couldn't start with a vanilla Woof.

EDIT 2: goot stuff! Built E17 and all its dependencies - now I'm doing a fixed build with things like git working (they were broken earlier), without any apps except E17, Opera and Aterm :D

Posted: Sat 16 Jul 2011, 11:12
by dejan555
That's cool Iguleder.
dpup's devx should be good, I managed to build kernel with your kernel build script on 485 and also compiled git.
I was wondering if you can still build from lenny repos with woof? A barebones lenny dpup would be cool, then I would update gtk and stuff I did for 485 and that would be good base for older PCs.