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Hi Mick,

You are on the right track. Already there is a Slacko puplet version out that uses the so called 32/64 bit super kernel. Kirk has a new Fatdog 64-600 about ready for testing. Unfortunately, TazOC is ill and hasn't been able to continue support for LHP 64-514 or his 32 bit 503 which are both fine pups. Hopefully, he will get well and return.

64 bit is still the wave of the future. The need for 32 bit is dimensioning. Puppy cannot afford to remain as support for just older hardware.

Cheers,
Jim

the performance gain was small

Over the years, I've spoken with a number of industry specialists about 64bit. They all said much the same - 64bit advantage depends very much on application. The two main hold-ups in PC use are the HD and your ISP. Since most folks use their PC s (not mobiles!) to send emails, browse the Net, write to their mum and the Revenue, virtually no 64bit advantage accrues. More than anything, the future points firmly to the release of massive numbers of allegedly obsolete boxes - the perfect vehicle for Puppy and for preventing landfill. Don't join the lemmings unless your profession demands it!

Aufs bug has got new bug fix:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 556#611556

pemasu wrote:Aufs bug has got new bug fix:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 556#611556

That is great news! I'll recompile k3.1.10, seems the best balance between old and new for the time being.

5.3.2.6 still running nicely on the Pentium D. I've noticed that SFS-Load bleats about unionfs support being experimental but I haven't encountered any oddities while using the SFS files I have loaded.

01micko wrote:pidgin-2.10.1-i486-s.pet

Thanks, seems to be working well on 5.3.2.6 on the Pentium D, although I only use IRC. Thanks also for doing it i486, it should work on the 5.3.1 install on my K6 (which can't run newer Slackos).

Jim1911 wrote:64 bit is still the wave of the future. The need for 32 bit is dimensioning. Puppy cannot afford to remain as support for just older hardware.

Cheers,
Jim

Well, I'm on a 32-bit machine and cannot see me being able to go 64-bit in the foreseeable future ... So, please, continue with 32-bit slacko .

01micko wrote:The immediate future is still 533 with support for 32 bit arch and 32 bit PAE. I'm not a huge fan of PAE but while there's demand I'll build it, ...

Thanks

01micko wrote:...... and I haven't had time to venture in to 64 territory except for a brief flirt with Iguleder's roar-ng, a fascinating project for which I wish I had time.

Roar-ng is a very competent builder of pup-alikes, I've played around with it quite a bit, building, mostly slackware-based, 32-bit systems - so, if you'd find the time to indulge ...

Cheers / MHHP

01micko wrote:

Quote:
perhaps even 64 bit only.

Please not!

Well it is a perhaps... perhaps I'll drop PAE if I go 64 bit and keep 32 bit support chugging along with the smp kernel. Pure speccing at this stage.

The immediate future is still 533 with support for 32 bit arch and 32 bit PAE. I'm not a huge fan of PAE but while there's demand I'll build it, and I haven't had time to venture in to 64 territory except for a brief flirt with Iguleder's roar-ng, a fascinating project for which I wish I had time.

It it's just a question of kernel compile parameters, I've got code that lets the user switch the kernel and build a new ISO automatically. You could make several kernel pets available and let the user choose without having to maintain multiple isos. Of course this makes dealing with 3rd party kernel modules a real PITA depending on how many kernels you have.

5.3.2.7x is .... out



See main post

5.3.2.7:
Nice - very nice, but...
...Xorg default is rated @ 1600x???, same feature as Saluki. This may well be for reasons explained by Jemimah, but the risk of overdriving folks' monitors so severely is that some of them will be sending you a bill for a new one! Whatever the origin of these false default selections, whether it be a Puppy or an Xorg issue, it needs to be fixed PDQ, before the hounds descend looking for a cash reimbursement...

Manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.

Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.7p on Tue 13 Mar 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nvidia

X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

# glxgears
62807 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12561.295 FPS
63069 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12613.754 FPS
63082 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12616.203 FPS

I installed mesa and the proprietary nvidia driver.
No problems so far.

01micko wrote: (for devx rename an older one, libs are unchanged)

What about kernel headers?

Strangely, after updating from 2.6 to 2.7 got me through the setup screen where it had my previous settings (except a "strange" monitor resolution). It also failed to see my (wired) net connection.
After reboot everything was fine.
Maybe the union to aufs shift, tripped it somehow?

01micko wrote:After that Slacko will enter a new phase, perhaps even 64 bit only.

Mmmm, like it

If there's anything specific you want me to do, please give me a note.


Sigmund

No problems. Save file more or less updated fine but took a re-boot to activate synaptics. Also overwrote .jwmrc-tray so had to restore it from back up and wallpaper was re set.

I compiled firefox 11.0 beta8 in 5.3.2.7p and made a pet of it.
I downloaded the newest flash player from adobe.com and put it in
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and it's working fine.

The download link for firefox-11.0-beta8-slacko.pet is:



http://www.datafilehost.com/download-8ba2427a.html

5.3.2.7 frugal install to Fat 32 2G usb drive on dual p6100 hp laptop. screen resolution as expected, Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n wifi detected by sns. survived a reboot and all looks good.

slacko 64 sounds good. thanks

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installed frugal to ext 4 on above with everything working

except not getting the two barks in either of the installs.

otherwise ok.

Hi 01micko & all,

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 842#611842

Ditto, but note my upgrade was from 5.3.2.4

Further note: was able to mnt/unmount sfs files on Ext4 and ntsf partitions.


mikesLr

Hi all, upgraded frugal on amd phenom II quad core w/4Gb DDR3 1600 Ram desktop from 5.3.2.6. Using nouveaux driver for gts250 video card. This pup ROCKS! Installed openbox (cause I likes it), wbar, and conky. Only had to reset background. System saw my bcm4312 wireless and connected to my router automagically. Need to compile new stand alone sensors driver for this Asrock MB. are kernel headers included in devx? (Screenies attached)

Just a quick run live pfix=ram before I do an install. Everything looking good on initial boot.

# report-video
Slacko Puppy, version 5.3.2.7 on Tue 13 Mar 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

mavrothal wrote: What about kernel headers?

Ah yes, I went through my kernel build script as I was having a slight problem with kernel headers, which I fixed, but I didn't bother to build the devx . I'll upload them and post a link later today.

Next version, hopefully RC, will have a new devx.

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Anyone game to try a 5.3.1 > 5.3.2.7 upgrade? Of course use a disposable save file.