6.0.2 frugal not finding .sfs file on usb

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#16 Post by boof »

downloaded new copy of CE file, and installed it to usb via VMware in win7 using the Universal Installer. It has the same problem.. Can I update from 6.0.2 to 6.0-CE in 6.0.2, or do I need to install CE from scratch?. I don't have ready access to a blank cd, but I do have 2 usbs. is there a win7 to linux iso burner to usb?

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#17 Post by mikeb »

Forum blip.... though might as well add

title Lucid Mike
kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz

apart from the drive specifications such simple boot stanzas for puppy should mean it looks everywhere... also assume you have not changed the main sfs name from the one given by the puppy builder.

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#18 Post by mikeb »

This seems a case of not seeing the wood for the trees...

as mentioned frugal is meant to install to various formats including fat... I did not realise ntfs was not allowed by the installer though in theory it would work....certainly does for hard drives.

Why not use the root of the partition and avoid all these potential naming errors...in general simplify what you are doing .

If you want a hidden partition from windows use say fat on partition 1 and ext on 2 and why do you need ntfs...I cannot quite see that?
Also not so good having journalling on flash I heard due to extra writes involved.

Also hard to pin down if its simply getting no mbr boot info or it is booting and not finding files as the report seems to vary.

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#19 Post by bigpup »

Can I update from 6.0.2 to 6.0-CE
6.0.2 is the update for 6.0-CE.

6.0.2 is the newest iso version of Tahrpup.
installed it to usb via VMware in win7 using the Universal Installer.
Explain.
Give us some details on exactly what you are doing.

Are you talking about using an installer other than the Puppy Universal Installer?

I thought Vmware was a way to run Windows on a MAC operating system.
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#20 Post by boof »

I have a dual boot machine with win7 and puppy 6.0.3 now working.
I sometimes need to transfer files between the OS's/dual use/boot the usb if I'm keeping them for re-installation purposes. Win 7 requires an ntfs partition 1 or it won't load the usb. Puppy universal installer will not load a frugal puppy onto the usb if it is ntfs. I want to be able to boot puppy from the usb if needed. I need access to the win files before I can install a puppy OS. I do not understand windows, linux, nor puppy in any depth. I'm an hardware tech-I can design, assemble and maintain micro-computer hardware and write a BIOS/test diagnostics for it, but I cannot write OS or application code. I can tell the difference between well written and not software Technically, my skills are obsolete now, and my sight is poor, and there is an ample plethora of ready made options available very cheap, which are easy to use and require little more than yr12 education to use them.

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#21 Post by boof »

VMware allows puppy to load, but prevents access to anything outside the virtual drive. Perhaps if there were a win7 compatible ext2 reader, where I could store and edit my win files on a linux usb it would be ok, but as yet, I haven't found anything practical

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#22 Post by mikeb »

forum bunch of flowers for you.....
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#23 Post by mikeb »

I remember there is a way to make it work on 7 but cannot off the top of my head remember what it was or a reference to it..... seem to recall it was to do with permissions and seeing a drive after reboot....as a removable drive it may work just fine. I don't normally have 7 running to test.

Why not FAT...it plays nicer with linux.? Then only one partition needed.

So installed running in a VM or installed via a VM to stcik or both?

So its booting now?

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#24 Post by boof »

win 7 tries to reformat all fat formatted drives, and won't read them. That's why I can't use it. BTW I tried to make a custom-puppy.iso by including libre-office, but as soon as I include that it repeats the same error. I'm about to add the libre-office-4.x.sfs separately to a cd to see if that will boot and load.

#edit.
at switch root fails to sync and develops kernel panic.
Error Num 0x00000100
and much other text I can't copy over. Machine freezes.

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#25 Post by mikeb »

win 7 tries to reformat all fat formatted drives, and won't read them. That's why I can't use it.
curious never noticed that one...though I would have only been using fat32 memory sticks.
Note in windows if there is file system corruption and it cannot read it offers to format... done that one since windows 2000.

Not sure about your sfs problem...puppy's standard way of handling them is beyond my pay grade :D

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#26 Post by bigpup »

You may need to do a chkdsk on this drive using Windows chkdsk.

You could try this.

Make 2 partitions on the USB drive.

First one:
Formatted fat32.
Flag it boot.
Make it big enough for Puppy.
Put Puppy on it as a frugal install.

Second one:
Format ntfs

Puppy and Windows 7 should be able to read/write anything on the ntfs partition.
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#27 Post by bigpup »

win 7 tries to reformat all fat formatted drives, and won't read them.
fat32 formatted USB flash drives work OK for me in Windows 7.

Read/writes with no problems.

Windows 7 fully updated?

As mikeb stated.
Sure nothing is corrupted with the fat file system on the drive?
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#28 Post by boof »

win7 not fully updated-almost 1.5GB download AFAIR. big chunk from quota.

Your solution sounds good, if only it works perhaps it would work if I reversed the order of the partitions, and boot from the 2nd one? Altho perhaps my bios won't boot from 2nd usb partitions? i'll check it out. I'll have to wait a week or so for new quota to update win 7. thx

#edit1.
FAT32 boot 1st partition with puppy 6.0.2 does not find .sfs file- my download is the current one.

I suspect initrd.gz of having a fault, like it has loaded the drivers for the disks and is then looking at the hard drive in the PC, and not the memory stick for the sfs file.

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#29 Post by mikeb »

Ok fat eliminated...perhaps simplify the layout so you can use simpler boot parameters.

mike

ps I have around 12 updates with 7...the last one being the one that updates the updater...the rest are are extra drivers and similar stuff...the rest seemed to be 4GB of junk so removed them all...was happier after that.

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#30 Post by bigpup »

#edit1.
FAT32 boot 1st partition with puppy 6.0.2 does not find .sfs file- my download is the current one.
Try this:

Look on the flash drive for the file syslinux.cfg. If it contains the clause "pmedia=cd" or something else, change it to "pmedia=usbflash".

Example:
syslinux.cfg

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default puppy
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 50

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd
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#31 Post by boof »

syslinux.cfg:


default puppy
display boot.msg
prompt 1
timeout 50

F1 boot.msg
F2 help.msg
F3 help2.msg

label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash pfix=copy


pfix=copy might be the problem????

Shouldn't that be:

puppy prefix=copy ?

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#32 Post by bigpup »

pfix=copy is the correct entry.

That says to copy the .sfs to ram.

Are the Puppy files just located on the fat32 partition or are they inside a folder/directory?

Your posted syslinux.cfg is for an install to the top layer of the partition, not in a folder/directory.

Are all the Tahrpup file names in lower case letters?

Does the Tahrpup.sfs file look like this:

puppy_tahr_6.0.2.sfs
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#33 Post by boof »

all puppy files are in root directory of partition 1 , which is fat32. the sfs file is called

puppy_tahr_6.0.2,sfs

should there be a root command somewhere?

thx

#edit 1

there is a file or folder named

USBFLASH

???

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#34 Post by boof »

USBFLASH is an empty file, according to Geany.

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#35 Post by gcmartin »

double post. Forum issue encountered.
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