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There's no way of knowing if you have Fanny on your Hardrive

Posted: Sun 05 Jul 2015, 09:42
by Bindee
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http://www.computerworld.com/article/28 ... drive.html

This should start some mega conspiracy theories.

:mrgreen:

Posted: Sun 05 Jul 2015, 17:48
by starhawk
Sorry, Bindee, I just don't have enough tin foil to make hats for people.

Posted: Sun 05 Jul 2015, 23:21
by Bindee
As there isn't anyway of currently detecting it or anything anyone can do i wasn't sure if it came more under general discussion scaremongering until there is more information.

But i'm happy for it to go into security. Image

Posted: Mon 06 Jul 2015, 00:23
by starhawk
The "Security" subforum is for general scaremongering ;) :P :lol:

Posted: Mon 06 Jul 2015, 03:04
by Bindee
LOL :lol:

Posted: Mon 06 Jul 2015, 04:10
by bigpup
So, how did they figure out that first picture on the website?

Got a new or newer car?

The control computer in them records your driving habits.
If in an accident, guess who can bring up the information on how you were driving just before it happened. :shock:

That control computer can also be turned off, by the loan company, remotely, if the car has ON Star or some similar service.
Do not pay your loan.
We disable your car.
Use On Star to find it and repo.

Posted: Mon 06 Jul 2015, 04:38
by Bindee
Anyone know what Bigpuppy is on about???

Headscratch - :D

Posted: Mon 06 Jul 2015, 12:08
by Burn_IT
US cars!!

Posted: Tue 07 Jul 2015, 05:08
by tomhewitt
Burn_IT wrote:US cars!!
Captain obvious. :P

What does the website he is viewing about US cars have to do with the fanny page?

Only picture on there is the fanny pic.

Posted: Tue 07 Jul 2015, 05:13
by bigpup
Just pointing out that anything, run by a computer, is watching you. :shock: :evil: :twisted:

Posted: Tue 07 Jul 2015, 10:23
by Bindee
No sure if it's similar to this but there was talk of a UEFI Bios boot trojan a couple of years ago forced in as a firmware upgrade.

Though i dare say the UEFI Bios is easier to read than this SSD one hidden in the control firmware.

Posted: Thu 09 Jul 2015, 17:24
by Scooby
I read up on the subject

seems like the NSA version was very targeted only
tens of thousand infections in the world. There seems
to be private versions now as well dunnow if they are offered
up in any exploit-kits yet?


Also pointed out but not a 100% proven that it relies on a windows stack
to get the info out.

Me personally feel like I need more tinfoil for my hat so I would like to know
if any of the hardware companies pushed out firmware that disables further
updates ( You could still update via SPI but not via OS ).

To me that is the only way to be safe. To beat the villains to it and flash
a firmware that doesn't allow further upgrades.

Best to do it now before it gets widespread, Hardware vendors might
do something to mitigate this attack in new products but old ones will be
hard to fix.

Posted: Thu 09 Jul 2015, 19:44
by bark_bark_bark
speaking of fans, what ever happened to hard drive fans?