MintPup (Trusty LTS)

[wanderer]

thanks once again saintless

what a cool creation

love that it fits on a cd

and aptget

and jwm etc

wanderer

[saintless]

Some improvements from Fred for porteus-boot using changes=EXIT:/ boot code:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 196#870196
The module is available for download with sfs-get-MintPup or from here:
99-new-save-setup-mintpup.squashfs
Read more here.

[Pelo]

MintPup-jwm-icewm-hybrid-26.07.2015.iso: 206 M now on use in my pendrive Puppy wallet. I will give you some information about my satisfaction... (only tasted in Virtual machine)

[Pelo]

MintPup running now from a 4GB pendrive previously with Ubuntu on it and erased.
Sure yesterday it was a challenge for me o practice MintPup. Hybrid between my Ubuntu and My Dear Puppies.
Pupsaves are easy to do. Mintpup hardly creates a save of 250MB size, extension omitted (2fs)
I had to load (and learn how-to) Firefox sfs, security rules in DILLO 3 preventing me from access at my FAI (Fournisseur access Internet Internet supplier )
In spite of some difficulties, MintPup is installed in my laptop. Root would consider that's enough and go away to another challenge.
User asks for some applications not found in Puppy Linux, wonderful mini distro, but so fast, Synaptic is quite desertic, a no man's land
If some geeks interested in, read the french topic here Si vous êtes intéressés, allez lire le forum francophone en cliquant le lien bleu

[saintless]

...security rules in DILLO 3 preventing me from access at my FAI (Fournisseur access Internet Internet supplier )

Maybe this will solve the problem with Dillo:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ca-certificates

...Synaptic is quite desertic, a no man's land

Your screenshot here shows the package information is not updated yet.
Click Reload button or close synaptic and run in terminal:

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sudo apt-get update

And start Synaptic again. Then you will see over 46 000 packages to choose from.

Toni

[Pelo]

Browser Dillo 3 certificates, i will do as you advise. So i installed a firefox SFS, But at reboot, in spite of my save file .2fs exist but did not load.
Synaptic : if i can really access the packages, Mintpup will be of great interest.
I will feed back my progress or failures.

I don't think getting help from forum francophone. Medor wants to get the the topic locked,
Explaining linux subjects in english is really a hard skill, even for me

[saintless]

So i installed a firefox SFS, But at reboot, in spite of my save file .2fs exist but did not load.

Type blkid in terminal and use the correct uuid number for your 4Gb flash drive:

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blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID="f8ac3a48-1d1c-40cc-a5fe-f8177731b457" TYPE="ext3"

Example boot codes for grub4dos menu.lst:

Save folder - folder changes will be auto created inside /casper. Use this only if 4Gb flash drive is ext2, ext3 or ext4:

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title MintPup porteus-boot save in /casper/changes folder (/dev/sda1)
 uuid f8ac3a48-1d1c-40cc-a5fe-f8177731b457
 kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/
 initrd /casper/initrd1.xz

Save file:
Download and extract 1Gb empty live-rw save file inside /casper folder on your 4Gb flash drive:
http://smokey01.com/saintless/1gb-example-save-file.zip
Keep the name live-rw and use:

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title MintPup porteus-boot save in /casper/live-rw file (/dev/sda1)
 uuid f8ac3a48-1d1c-40cc-a5fe-f8177731b457
 kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/live-rw
 initrd /casper/initrd1.xz

Rename live-rw to changes.dat and use:

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title MintPup porteus-boot save in /casper/changes.dat file (/dev/sda1)
 uuid f8ac3a48-1d1c-40cc-a5fe-f8177731b457
 kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/changes.dat
 initrd /casper/initrd1.xz

Rename live-rw to pelo.2fs and use:

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title MintPup porteus-boot save in /casper/pelo.2fs file (/dev/sda1)
 uuid f8ac3a48-1d1c-40cc-a5fe-f8177731b457
 kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=/casper/pelo.2fs
 initrd /casper/initrd1.xz

If you post the code you use to boot 4Gb flash drive with MintPup I will try to explain better.

Toni

[Pelo]

Ok, bookmarked. I was checking for certificates. I hold a pet in my toolcase that works with an old DILLO. (i am with Dpup487 right now. I will try all your advice next start of MintPUP ( to-night)

[fredx181]

Hi All,

See here for:
How to run latest flashplayer in Iceweasel/Firefox on DebianDog/MintPup
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 815#873815

Fred

[labbe5]

The list below contains the most useful options available via the apt command and what old commands they simplify.
• apt install package(s)
• replaces apt-get install package
• apt remove package(s)
• replaces apt-get remove package
• apt search query
• replaces apt-cache search query
• apt show package(s)
• replaces apt-cache show package(s)
• apt update
• replaces apt-get update
• apt upgrade
• replaces apt-get upgrade
• apt list –installed
• replaces dpkg –get-selections | grep -v deinstall
• replaces dpkg -l
• apt list –upgradable (sudo not required)
• replaces apt-get -u upgrade –assume-no

[labbe5]

I know what to do to add repositories, but for an unknown reason, it's not doable with MintPup. There is an error message each time i try using add-apt-repository.

I tried the SFS you provide, and also some packages from Mint repo. None works.

Some apps from third-party repositories are interesting, and i would like to install them. But it's not possible from what i know. Maybe, this is a bug with Mint 17.x itself?

I did download and install the appropriate packages with DebianDog, and i was able to install some apps from the add-apt-repository command line, taking into account the warning against using it in a Debian system. I never had an issue with compatibility for the few apps i installed, via add-apt-repository in DebianDog.

But when trying to do the same with MintPup, it seems a bug is preventing users to perform an add-apt-repository.

Do you have a definitive answer about that? Is a fix coming soon?
Maybe some config files should be altered in some way to make it work? Uncommenting something?

[saintless]

But when trying to do the same with MintPup, it seems a bug is preventing users to perform an add-apt-repository.

No bug as far as I know and add-apt-repository works for me.

1. Fresh frugal install porteus-boot saving changes in folder.
2. Load 06-DEVX-Python-add-PPA-repo.squashfs from here:
http://kazzascorner.com.au/saintless/Mi ... a-modules/
3. Add variety ppa repo works from user and root account:

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mint ~ # add-apt-repository ppa:peterlevi/ppa
You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
 Contains packages for the Variety wallpaper changer
http://launchpad.net/variety
 More info: https://launchpad.net/~peterlevi/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it

Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --homedir /tmp/tmp.FnC6o8PfcP --no-auto-check-trustdb --trust-model always --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/mintpup.gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys A546BE4F
gpg: requesting key A546BE4F from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key A546BE4F: public key "Launchpad PPA for Peter Levi" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1  (RSA: 1)

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puppy@mint ~ $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:peterlevi/ppa
[sudo] password for puppy: 
You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
 Contains packages for the Variety wallpaper changer
http://launchpad.net/variety
 More info: https://launchpad.net/~peterlevi/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it

Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --homedir /tmp/tmp.byLdfs0jGP --no-auto-check-trustdb --trust-model always --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/mintpup.gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys A546BE4F
gpg: requesting key A546BE4F from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key A546BE4F: "Launchpad PPA for Peter Levi" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:              unchanged: 1 

4. Run apt-get update:

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mint ~ # apt-get update
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty InRelease                              
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                  
Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg [316 B]                      
Get:2 http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release.gpg [933 B]                  
Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease [64.4 kB]                          
.....................................               
Fetched 15.2 MB in 1min 10s (217 kB/s)                                         
Reading package lists... Done

5. Install variety works:

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mint ~ # apt-get install variety
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
........................................
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  aspell aspell-en dictionaries-common gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1 gir1.2-atk-1.0
  gir1.2-freedesktop gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-glib-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 gir1.2-notify-0.7 gir1.2-pango-1.0
  gir1.2-soup-2.4 gir1.2-webkit-3.0 glib-networking glib-networking-services
  groff-base gsettings-desktop-schemas imagemagick imagemagick-common
  libappindicator3-1 libaspell15 libboost-python1.54.0 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4
  libenchant1c2a libgdbm3 libgeoclue0 libgirepository-1.0-1
  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 libgstreamer1.0-0 libharfbuzz-icu0 libicu52
  libindicator3-7 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 liblqr-1-0 libmagickcore5
  libmagickwand5 libpython-stdlib libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib
  libsecret-1-0 libsecret-common libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1
  libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-common libxslt1.1 libyelp0 man-db
  mime-support python python-bs4 python-cairo python-configobj python-dbus
  python-dbus-dev python-gi python-gi-cairo python-imaging python-lxml
  python-minimal python-pil python-pycurl python-pyexiv2 python2.7
  python2.7-minimal variety yelp yelp-xsl
0 upgraded, 69 newly installed, 0 to remove and 87 not upgraded.
Need to get 30.0 MB of archives.
After this operation, 124 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

What is the result for you with variety ppa from the above example?
What ppa repositories give errors?
Do you still get errors with fresh mintpup frugal install (without using save file/folder with new installed programs and custom changes)?

[labbe5]

Thanks.

I have proof the problem is not linked to MintPup or Mint. I will try your suggestion, and use your SFS on a fresh install, without save file, and see what happens from there.

So far, your MintPup is giving me satisfaction on all points, except this add-apt-repository issue, that i hope i can solve.

I would like to tell about another issue i have with the memory applet not showing in the latest ISO of MintPup. I think i saw somewhere how to solve this issue, but now i don't find it in the forum.

[saintless]

I would like to tell about another issue i have with the memory applet not showing in the latest ISO of MintPup. I think i saw somewhere how to solve this issue, but now i don't find it in the forum.

There is only one mintpup iso for now.
Try Utility --> Freememapplet ON
It is off by default.
See the screenshot here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 274#865274

[mcewanw]

No bug as far as I know and add-apt-repository works for me.

Just confirming that add-apt-repository works fine for me too (after first loading the DEVX squashed filesystem).

William

[labbe5]

I succeeded installing Variety with your SFS DEVX... Seemingly, the save file was preventing me from installing PPA repositories. Must be something conflicting with some other packages installed, and a fresh install solved the problem.

Thanks.

[saintless]

I succeeded installing Variety with your SFS DEVX...

If you prefer not to load the DEVX all the time just to add ppa repository you can install the needed packages (it will add around 40Mb in your save file). I've posted the list here before starting this thread. Maybe it will be useful for others.
This is what you need with fresh mintpup install:

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sudo apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties python-apt ca-certificates lsb-release

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mint ~ # apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties python-apt ca-certificates lsb-release
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  dh-python libpython-stdlib libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib
  libpython3-stdlib libpython3.4-minimal libpython3.4-stdlib mime-support
  mintsources openssl python python-apt-common python-cairo python-glade2
  python-gobject-2 python-gtk2 python-minimal python-pycurl python2.7
  python2.7-minimal python3 python3-minimal python3.4 python3.4-minimal
Suggested packages:
  lsb python-doc python-tk python-apt-dbg python-vte python-apt-doc
  python-gtk2-doc python-gobject-2-dbg libcurl4-gnutls-dev python-pycurl-dbg
  python2.7-doc binfmt-support python3-doc python3-tk python3.4-venv
  python3.4-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ca-certificates dh-python libpython-stdlib libpython2.7-minimal
  libpython2.7-stdlib libpython3-stdlib libpython3.4-minimal
  libpython3.4-stdlib lsb-release mime-support mintsources openssl python
  python-apt python-apt-common python-cairo python-glade2 python-gobject-2
  python-gtk2 python-minimal python-pycurl python-software-properties
  python2.7 python2.7-minimal python3 python3-minimal python3.4
  python3.4-minimal software-properties-common
0 upgraded, 29 newly installed, 0 to remove and 87 not upgraded.
Need to get 9,378 kB of archives.
After this operation, 40.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

Toni

[fredx181]

Hi All

Re; add-apt-repository:

Just wondering:The simple bash script from here doesn't work?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 947#834947

Fred

[saintless]

Hi Fred.

We have a report adding ppa repo manually also works, but I don't recommend it.
Linux Mint Project Leader develops his own add-apt-repository version. If the official Mint version fails (after loading the DEVX or installing mintsources) this means your system is broken (most probably after installing packages from ppa repository). And you can't continue adding unofficial sources with add-apt-repository till you fix it.

But you can use the simple bash script instead fixing the system. It will work adding more and more unofficial sources till you manage to break apt and bash. And then you can blame MintPup for your actions and start destroying another system.

And this simple bash script will not save you the 40Mb dependencies needed for the official version. Once you start installing packages from ppa you will install all dependencies anyway because other packages will need them.

Merry Christmas!

Toni

[fredx181]

Hi Fred.

We have a report adding ppa repo manually also works, but I don't recommend it.
Linux Mint Project Leader develops his own add-apt-repository version. If the official Mint version fails (after loading the DEVX or installing mintsources) this means your system is broken (most probably after installing packages from ppa repository). And you can't continue adding unofficial sources with add-apt-repository till you fix it.

But you can use the simple bash script instead fixing the system. It will work adding more and more unofficial sources till you manage to break apt and bash. And then you can blame MintPup for your actions and start destroying another system.

And this simple bash script will not save you the 40Mb dependencies needed for the official version. Once you start installing packages from ppa you will install all dependencies anyway because other packages will need them.

Merry Christmas!

Toni

Ok, clear, manually adding ppa and through bash script is not safe way, thanks, didn't know about official Mint add-apt-repository.

Merry Christmas too, Toni!

Fred