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labbe5

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Dec 2015, 08:23    Post subject:  

I succeeded installing Variety with your SFS DEVX... Seemingly, the save file was preventing me from installing PPA repositories. Must be something conflicting with some other packages installed, and a fresh install solved the problem.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Dec 2015, 14:48    Post subject:  

labbe5 wrote:
I succeeded installing Variety with your SFS DEVX...

If you prefer not to load the DEVX all the time just to add ppa repository you can install the needed packages (it will add around 40Mb in your save file). I've posted the list here before starting this thread. Maybe it will be useful for others.
This is what you need with fresh mintpup install:
Code:
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties python-apt ca-certificates lsb-release

Code:
mint ~ # apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties python-apt ca-certificates lsb-release
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  dh-python libpython-stdlib libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib
  libpython3-stdlib libpython3.4-minimal libpython3.4-stdlib mime-support
  mintsources openssl python python-apt-common python-cairo python-glade2
  python-gobject-2 python-gtk2 python-minimal python-pycurl python2.7
  python2.7-minimal python3 python3-minimal python3.4 python3.4-minimal
Suggested packages:
  lsb python-doc python-tk python-apt-dbg python-vte python-apt-doc
  python-gtk2-doc python-gobject-2-dbg libcurl4-gnutls-dev python-pycurl-dbg
  python2.7-doc binfmt-support python3-doc python3-tk python3.4-venv
  python3.4-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ca-certificates dh-python libpython-stdlib libpython2.7-minimal
  libpython2.7-stdlib libpython3-stdlib libpython3.4-minimal
  libpython3.4-stdlib lsb-release mime-support mintsources openssl python
  python-apt python-apt-common python-cairo python-glade2 python-gobject-2
  python-gtk2 python-minimal python-pycurl python-software-properties
  python2.7 python2.7-minimal python3 python3-minimal python3.4
  python3.4-minimal software-properties-common
0 upgraded, 29 newly installed, 0 to remove and 87 not upgraded.
Need to get 9,378 kB of archives.
After this operation, 40.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y


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fredx181


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Dec 2015, 16:20    Post subject:  

Hi All

Re; add-apt-repository:

Just wondering:The simple bash script from here doesn't work?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=834947#834947

Fred
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec 2015, 05:19    Post subject:  

Hi Fred.

We have a report adding ppa repo manually also works, but I don't recommend it.
Linux Mint Project Leader develops his own add-apt-repository version. If the official Mint version fails (after loading the DEVX or installing mintsources) this means your system is broken (most probably after installing packages from ppa repository). And you can't continue adding unofficial sources with add-apt-repository till you fix it.

But you can use the simple bash script instead fixing the system. It will work adding more and more unofficial sources till you manage to break apt and bash. And then you can blame MintPup for your actions and start destroying another system.

And this simple bash script will not save you the 40Mb dependencies needed for the official version. Once you start installing packages from ppa you will install all dependencies anyway because other packages will need them.

Merry Christmas!

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fredx181


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec 2015, 15:18    Post subject:  

saintless wrote:
Hi Fred.

We have a report adding ppa repo manually also works, but I don't recommend it.
Linux Mint Project Leader develops his own add-apt-repository version. If the official Mint version fails (after loading the DEVX or installing mintsources) this means your system is broken (most probably after installing packages from ppa repository). And you can't continue adding unofficial sources with add-apt-repository till you fix it.

But you can use the simple bash script instead fixing the system. It will work adding more and more unofficial sources till you manage to break apt and bash. And then you can blame MintPup for your actions and start destroying another system.

And this simple bash script will not save you the 40Mb dependencies needed for the official version. Once you start installing packages from ppa you will install all dependencies anyway because other packages will need them.

Merry Christmas!

Toni


Ok, clear, manually adding ppa and through bash script is not safe way, thanks, didn't know about official Mint add-apt-repository.

Merry Christmas too, Toni!

Fred
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mikeslr


Joined: 16 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jan 2016, 13:07    Post subject: Bootcode or Sata Drive problem? SOLVED  

Hi Fred, saintless & All,

Mintpup runs well on a couple of computers from a USB-Key to which I installed it via LinuxLiveUSB Creator. I wanted to spend some time exploring it from my main computer by adding it to the Grub4dos Menu on that computer. [Unfortunately, although that computer should be able boot from a USB-Key, I think I screwed things up while dissembling it in order to install a 2nd Sata drive]. 

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm trying to boot MintPup from a folder named "mintpup" --without the quotes-- on the third partition of a sata drive. Puppy Linux sees it as sda3. It's formatted as Linux Ext4. 

I mounted the ISO and copied its entire casper folder to /mnt/sda3/mintpup. 

Currently, this is its listing on Grub4dos: 

title MintPup porteus-boot save on EXIT in /casper/changes folder 
root (hd0,2) 
kernel /mintpup/casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/mintpup/casper/ 
initrd (hd0,2)/mintpup/casper/initrd1.xz 

As I see it, this is only a variation of this example on the Wiki: 
https://github.com/MintPup/MintPup-Trusty/wiki/Porteus-boot

title MintPup porteus-boot save on EXIT in /casper/changes folder 
root (hd0,0) 
kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/casper/ 
initrd (hd0,0)/casper/initrd1.xz 

with only these two changes (1) casper is within a folder named mintpup, and (2) its on the 3rd partition rather than the first. 

Evidently, initird1.xz is located using my boot parameters as booting begins. Then, I receive the message, something like "from=/" isn't found and to press ENTER for a search to take place. Pressing Enter produces a message that “porteus data isn't found” and there's something wrong with my boot codes. 

I've tried moving casper to the root of sda2 and deleting "/mintpup" from the arguments ---i.e. 

kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/casper/ 

with a similar change to the initrd line but still get the same messages. 

I also tried debiandog64 which showed the same problem.


Any ideas? 

SOLVED -- See saintless post below.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jan 2016, 13:41    Post subject: MintPup-jwm-icewm-hybrid-26.07.2015.iso: 206 M  

back to MintPup Topic.
There were so many Puppies born end of 2015, i loose Mintpup away from my activity
Certificates : it seems not to be a problem, we can pass through...
OK to-morrow i try your information.
MintPup-jwm-icewm-hybrid-26.07.2015.iso: 206 M is the one available in my laptop.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jan 2016, 14:06    Post subject: Re: Bootcode or Sata Drive problem?  

mikeslr wrote:
Currently, this is its listing on Grub4dos: 

title MintPup porteus-boot save on EXIT in /casper/changes folder 
root (hd0,2) 
kernel /mintpup/casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/mintpup/casper/ 
initrd (hd0,2)/mintpup/casper/initrd1.xz 

Hi, mikesLr.
Just tested the same situation on third ext4 partition (sda3). All you need to do with the code is changing from=/ to from=/mintpup/ (read the last code example in porteus-boot post).
Works booting to desktop without problems with this code:

Quote:
title MintPup porteus-boot save on EXIT in /casper/changes folder
root (hd0,2)
kernel /mintpup/casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/mintpup/ changes=EXIT:/mintpup/casper/
initrd /mintpup/casper/initrd1.xz

BTW I removed (hd0,2) from the initrd line and I will remove it from boot post examples also. It doesn't make problems but we need it only on root line.

Quote:
I've tried moving casper to the root of sda2 and deleting "/mintpup" from the arguments ---i.e. 

kernel /casper/vmlinuz noauto from=/ changes=EXIT:/casper/ 

with a similar change to the initrd line but still get the same messages. 

Works for me with /casper to the root on sda3.
Can you confirm there is no other /casper folder from mintpup or other ubuntu based system on different partitition. This could happen if you have second /casper folder on sda1 with something missing like the main module or wheezy-i486.sgn file.
If it still doesn't boot can you try casper-boot to confirm if the problem exists there too. This code for example if you boot from /mintpup/casper on sda3:
Code:
title MintPup in /mintpup/casper (on sda3) no-save
root=(hd0,2)
kernel /mintpup/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper config showmounts union=aufs live-media-path=mintpup/casper/
initrd /mintpup/casper/initrd.lz


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jan 2016, 14:15    Post subject: Re: MintPup-jwm-icewm-hybrid-26.07.2015.iso: 206 M  

Take your time and write if you have problems, Pelo.
Pelo wrote:
MintPup-jwm-icewm-hybrid-26.07.2015.iso: 206 M is the one available in my laptop.

This is the correct iso. There is no updated version yet.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jan 2016, 15:30    Post subject: Thanks Toni  

How Toni,

Thanks for the instructions. Worked. Posting from MintPup (Trusty LTS) now.

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2016, 07:17    Post subject:  

Upgrading libc6 with the latest security fixes breaks some Firefox functions as "Open link in new tab" for example. The latest firefox version in the repository is special Mint build. I guess it will be fixed in time.
Till then download, install and use the official Firefox version from Ubuntu:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/firefox
If Mint version doesn't get fix or upgrade soon I will add this or similar information in fixes post.

Edit: Or to make it easier use apt-get to install the Ubuntu version:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install firefox=44.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1


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PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2016, 07:35    Post subject:  

Thanks Toni. That Ubuntu Firefox indeed fixed the issue for me.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Feb 2016, 05:02    Post subject:  

The Firefox issue and fix for porteus-boot save on exit added in fixes post:
https://github.com/MintPup/MintPup-Trusty/blob/master/Bugs-and-Fixes.md

Xvidcap uploaded in mintpup-repo. Unfortunately it works only with OSS to record sound and the Ubuntu kernel is compiled without OSS support. It is impossible to buld extra module without recompiling the official kernel with changed configuration. This why the package depends on pulseaudio workaround. Install with:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xvidcap

If you like to start xvidcap from terminal use this command (starting from menu entry will use the same command):
Code:
padsp xvidcap


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2016, 12:07    Post subject:  

Important changes to keep MintPup up to date:
Fixes post.

Quote:
17. New packages uploaded sfs-get-mintpup and mintpup-repo-updater.

We need to change some scripts and free some space by removing modules from kazzascorner.com.au and smokey01.com in order to make the maintaining easier. Sfs-get script will download the extra modules from github.com in the future for all DD versions and MintPup.

It is recommended to install both packages by running these commands to keep sfs-get and mintpup-repo up to date:

Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install mintpup-repo-updater sfs-get-mintpup
sudo apt-get update

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Apr 2016, 19:58    Post subject: Virtual box guest  

Can I request you don't purge the virtualbox packages - this would be the ideal Linux to run as a lightweight guest Virtual Machine for browsing the internet without exposing the host OS.

It already works better than puppy because the virtual box kernel modules are still present for the video and mouse drivers so it already runs as a VM guest out-of-the-box. However, the packages for the shared clipboard and shared folders service are in your list of those purged.

Also, if you supported virtualbox, it would be a way of getting more users to try it out as all you have to do is create a new VM and select the ISO as the boot medium.
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