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backi

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2016, 14:19    Post subject:  

Dear mkeslr !

Your writing did really impress me !
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2016, 15:03    Post subject:  

Very well said mikeslr !! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2016, 16:35    Post subject: Re: A message to saintless  

mikeslr wrote:
Dear Toni,

Dear mikeslr,

Where were you when fredx181 and friends made fun of me? Or when I was insulted?
Why didn't you post your wisdom in such "productive" replies like here or there for example?
Every of my answers is a result of fredx181 provocation in some of my threads (including my last post today).
I understand it is hard for him to admit the truth but I posted his own deleted words.
Instead preaching me, why don't you tell him to turn the other chick? Or to leave me alone and not to make fun from what he and his new friends did to me?

Hi emil. Nice to see you and I'm sorry you have to read this. I also hope this will stop but it is not all my fault. It takes two to tango.

Toni

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2016, 22:40    Post subject:  

hi saintless

i know its upsetting
but please know there are a ton of people who have great respect for you

regards

wanderer
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 04:20    Post subject:  

Hi Tony !
I know it for sure..... You are really a nice guy .
I have to totally agree with wanderer .

But you find yourself in a situation of completely misinterpreting all the things that are happening .
( Remember: Suspicious Mind )
I wish could help you out of this "one way road " you captured in yourself ......Makes me really sad .

Dont want to get sentimental but " wish you were here " again .
But you have first to let go this(self)destructive position to find out of this confusion .

There comes a picture to my minds eye ......it looks like a runaway child .
Hope there is someone more skilled than me to lead you back (home?) .

Blessings Tony
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 04:28    Post subject:  

Hi wanderer,

People believe lies our days and lies is all posted from my felow linux developers the last months. Even yesterday:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=933198&sid=dc5e46aa968974571502b83e63ee8522#933198
fredx181 wrote:
...and was working on his own project on Github completely different from how DD was setup before.

Pure lie and exactly the opposite:
https://github.com/MintPup/DebianDog-Wheezy/blob/9d25202969dd5e3222d139db308a01cf947f3adc/Bugs-and-Fixes.md
saintless wrote:
14. I will try to provide a way to update previous Jwm iso with all new changes. Script changes will be available here and updated packages and initrd files will be uploaded here.


http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=924995&sid=4d4ae2855d6b26deacec75c95124b3ae#924995
fredx181 wrote:
Note: Above repository is not compatible with older DebianDog-Jessie ISO versions.
Also: this new release is not compatible with the custom DD repositories used in previous versions such as:
http://kazzascorner.com.au/saintless/DebianDog/DebianDog-Jessie/Packages/
Or:
http://www.smokey01.com/saintless/DebianDog-Jessie/Packages/


What is most upsetting is the original thread credits:
saintless wrote:
I like to give my Thanks to Smokey and KazzaMozz for hosting DebianDog project here, here, here,
to Debian team for keeping Debian such flexible system,
to this forum for the opportunity to work on a project different from puppy linux,
to our forum members working on DebianDog development: Fred (fredx181), Terry (sunburnt), William (mcewanw), Sergey (sklimkin),
and for the valuable advices to: jbv, sfs, catsezmoo, big_bass, emil, dancytron, anikin from our forum
and dzz from www.debianuserforums.org
And to Sickgut for his original idea that made possible DebianDog to exist.

Compared to the continued thread credits:
fredx181 wrote:
Thanks very much to forum members: saintless, mcewanw, sunburnt, sklimkin, rufwoof, backi, dancytron and others.


I still feel great disappointment about what the people I trusted did to me. But they didn't do it to me only. They did the same to many others behind me and before me. They all were members of this forum once. Almost noone active here anymore unfortunately. No wonder why... My fellow linux developers continue to present some twisted ego DebianDog story version and the people believe them and this is sad.

I feel my next project will be writing the true DebianDog story. I owe this to the people behind DebianDog.

Toni

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 04:44    Post subject:  

Hi Tony !

Quote:
Dear mikeslr,

Where were you when fredx181 and friends made fun of me? Or when I was insulted?


Can't see it ......nobody ever made fun of you as far as i can see .
You are in state of heavy confusion ......almost paranoiac ........please come back to your mind ....until now there is a lot of damage done..please stop it . ......turn back from this road to nowhere .
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 07:27    Post subject: Please remove the 'stealing' accusation  

Dear Forum moderators,

Having chosen to 'retired' following some earlier outbursts of the first poster on this thread, I am no longer really active on this forum. However, I cannot help but be disturbed to see that the first post of this thread has very recently been modified to make an accusation of stealing against one other person and myself.

I formally request, please, that you remove these accusatory remarks from being hosted on your forum. I use my genuine name on the forum, and these accusations are libellous.

If it helps implement the removal of these accusations, I am happy for my earlier projects to vanish along with my name (mcewanw = William) from anywhere on this forum altogether.. Main thing is that I want these personal attacks to be stopped.

As far as the Debian Live spin named DebianDog is concerned (and its several family members including MintPup and XenialDog) I certainly wish that my name will be removed from any and every credit concerning that work since in these circumstances I have no further interest in being in any way associated with it. Since I don't consider the system as being a particularly unique creation anyway the true or false history of its creation is of no meaning or interest to me personally. (No disrespect towards its main developers intended there - the 'spin' has some clever implementations, which I know involved and continues to involve a lot of hard work).

Furthermore, whilst I understand that 'flame-wars' are a well-known phenomenon in open-source, I find it unacceptable that one forum member can vanish for several months and then be allowed to re-appear from time to time to purposively ignite a long dead fire. Tolerating such forum member behaviour not only allows them to disrupt the work continuing to be undertaken on a project, but also takes away the fun and enthusiasm of others who care much less (if at all) about 'who' is or was the projects 'creator'...

Thank you in advance for removing the personal attacks against me such that I can return to the peace and quiet of my self-chosen retirement from such matters.

William
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 08:25    Post subject: Re: Please remove the 'stealing' accusation  

Hi William,
mcewanw wrote:
Dear Forum moderators,

Having chosen to 'retired' following some earlier outbursts of the first poster on this thread, I am no longer really active on this forum. However, I cannot help but be disturbed to see that the first post of this thread has very recently been modified to make an accusation of stealing against one other person and myself.

It is up to the moderators and I will accept their decision.
But they should also know you enjoyed this as long as it was not you on the first page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?p=859356&sid=35428a0d29d0d34cae55b3f6d0da67cc#859356
mcewanw wrote:
How you interact with others is up to yourself but, as in the rest of life, so are the consequencies. I wouldn't myself award you the honour of being mentioned at the top of every DD-related thread though! But congratulations anyway Smile

How does it feel to be on the other side?

Toni

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 08:45    Post subject:  

Dear Tony !

I beg you please ......stop running Amok......stop ridicule yourself .
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 09:11    Post subject:  

Saintless you should be banned. Personal advice your obviously mentally ill get some help and for goodness sake leave Fred and mcewanw alone.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 10:16    Post subject:  

Здравейте Toni,

Разберете това: you are a rock star when it comes to taking Debian and somehow getting that distro down to as small as only you can do to make it into the "dogs". I know, I've tried getting Debian down to even half the size you do and I've failed many times now. Even following your detailed post on how to do it, I still fail. But mate, everything else that is going on right now, by everybody (all included), is superfluous.

Разбирам, изборът изглежда несправедливо: but the point has been reached that you have to let all (all of this) go, now. Flash, ttuuxxx, et al do not and will not moderate this. They'll end it, soon, and all of us will be losers. В гората на Debian Dog Linux. Нуждаем се от теб. Никога не мисля, че не са добре дошли тук Smile


Надявам се, че се трансформира в български не е лошо. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 10:51    Post subject:  

Hi belham,
belham2 wrote:
Надявам се, че се трансформира в български не е лошо. Embarassed

The auto translation is not good Smile but I get your point.
Simple appology from both in this thread several months ago was all needed to prevent what happened. I don't need it anymore because I see what kind of people I worked with and what kind of team they attract.
Good luck with them. To keep them away from me is your burden now.

I will remove the first pages links to deleted pages in the next hour.

Edit: Done.

Toni

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jun 2017, 16:02    Post subject:  

According to this post the thread stays open as a community project:
mcewanw wrote:
As I say, all dogs are community projects; no-one can ask for that work to be locked or deleted without agreement from the other contributors.

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jun 2017, 02:37    Post subject:  

Hi Toni !

It`s a pleasure to see you back in Town ! Very Happy Very Happy

NOT kidding........

So Let`s praise the Lord ......Halleluja....!


Regards !
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