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Appril, a pup for Android developers
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Aug 2015, 21:23    Post subject:  Appril, a pup for Android developers
Subject description: A new build of Quirky Linux, based on the April series
 

See my announcement and download link:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00236

And the installation guide at ibiblio.org:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/releases/appril-7.1/appril-7.1-README.htm

Beware, this is a big puplet! 0.98GB!

Anyone interested, you are welcome to test and provide feedback.

Oh yes, it has Samba 4.2.3, the full package, but I haven't put in anything to use it. I know that there has been work done by 01micko and others, for the pups, maybe someone could look into this and suggest what I could add to the next release.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 00:08    Post subject: Appril, a pup for Android developers  

Installed to a 32gb SDHC card.

I ran the installer in Quirky Unicorn 6.2.1, the installer took quite a
while, more than 30 minutes I think but I could see that there was disk
activity because I have gkrellm installed so I waited patiently.

There were a couple of errors show up in the terminal so I captured the
window.

I'm not a developer but will explore this further, maybe I can create
an app for my nexus 7 tablet at some point.

Thanks

EDIT: I did a second install to a desktop pc with Nvidia graphics.

I blacklisted the nouveau module and rebooted.
I also needed to install kernel_src-3.17.8-patched.pet before the
proprietary driver would compile.

VIDEO REPORT: Appril, version 7.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe xtrap
Drivers requested to be loaded: nvidia nvidia

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1204x342 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 02:49    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,
You should probably add to the release notes the versions of Android that this can be used to develop for (I think you said recently on your blog that the minimum version was 4, or perhaps even 5, which means all the millions of Android 2.3 devices are shut out - if my rough estimate is right we're talking upwards of 200,000,000).

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 06:17    Post subject:  

Hi, yeah, that does need clarification.

I have posted about support for different Android versions here:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00237

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 09:38    Post subject: Appril 7.1 mirrored  

here's a mirror of Appril 7.1 (includes sha1&md5sums.txt, installquirky.x86, appril-7.1-README.txt, appril-7.1-README.htm, appril-7.1.usfs.xz, and appril-7.1-16gb.img.xz).
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 13:20    Post subject:  

Actually, I am interested to test a "normal" April 7.1 (as an iso so "newbies" can try it) and without devx included...(I don't have a smartphone).
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Aug 2015, 14:30    Post subject:  

Thanks @BarryK for this necessary step for the community as we march into our future. An observation: This is not just for Android developers as its toolsets offer much more than being limited to Android. It appears, for example, it has every thing needed to build a new PUP, build new packages, among the other things that are in this distro.

Thanks,too, to @Puppus Dogfellow. Have never had the speed in downloads as seen today!

Looking forward to diving in.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 04:24    Post subject: Re: Appril, a pup for Android developers
Subject description: A new build of Quirky Linux, based on the April series
 

BarryK wrote:
Oh yes, it has Samba 4.2.3, the full package, but I haven't put in anything to use it. I know that there has been work done by 01micko and others, for the pups, maybe someone could look into this and suggest what I could add to the next release.


latest developments are in the thread started by mikeb

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=99988

HTH

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 08:48    Post subject: Making SAMBA use, simple  

@01Micko's and @MikeB's frontend, "SAMBA Simple Management" is preferable, as it is a Puppy Linux exclusive approach, clear in its service for users; shown below, respectively with @01Micko's version being colorful.


Once added to Appril, The SAMBA documentation will be added to support SAMBA users of Appril.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 10:48    Post subject: SAMBA in Appril  

With SAMBA, ANY Android smartPhone/smartTablet/GoogleTV/PC OS can access or store useful files to or from this Appril PC with NO NEED FOR CABLES.

I have used "ES" for years on my Android devices to do so with Windows, Apple or Linuxes with SAMBA. This PUP now brings the same level of usability to the community using the home's wireless network.

Hope this is helpful.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 13:36    Post subject:  

OK this is interesting, any chance this will lead to puppy-droid app, a nice puppylinux desktop app? I've got a very large phablet (phone-tablet) would like to turn into a computer. ( oh its unrooted, but does let me sideload apps outside of an app-store, but only via websites, can't load by USB or such. )
found out a 25disc dvd spindle can hold it upright to view videos sideways, save me a few bucks on a stand, and nothing is blocking speakers or mic.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 15:06    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
OK this is interesting, any chance this will lead to puppy-droid app, a nice puppylinux desktop app? I've got a very large phablet (phone-tablet) would like to turn into a computer. ( oh its unrooted, but does let me sideload apps outside of an app-store, but only via websites, can't load by USB or such. )
found out a 25disc dvd spindle can hold it upright to view videos sideways, save me a few bucks on a stand, and nothing is blocking speakers or mic.


Debian on Android ?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuntubuntu&referrer=utm_source%3DAndroidPIT%26utm_medium%3DAndroidPIT%26utm_campaign%3DAndroidPIT

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuntubuntu
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 15:18    Post subject: Problem exposed when trying to build Appril runnable USB  

Found a USB to use and hit this error. The last April installer, I thought, was fixed for this problem. Not a bug, but is operational and would confuse some Windows types who booted a Live distro.
Code:
bash-4.1# ./installquirky.x86
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing installquirky  100% 
ERROR: The host Linux OS must have architecture 'x86'. Please download the correct Quirky Installer. Aborting.
Attempted in using the "B" installer option.

Hope this is helpful for updating either the Installer or its current documentation to users.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 15:58    Post subject: Moved build process to 32bit. Reach circular errror process  

On a laptop with TahrPUP 602, attempt at using Build Option B results in an error.

Screen captures show progression of the circular error occuring with messages in RED and in BOLD
Start terminal in folder:
Code:
root# ./installquirky.x86
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing installquirky  100%


Installation screen opens on this 32bit PC

First error (in red) is shown.

Changed Firmware to 'BIOS' and this follows:

So either answers are flashed as erroneous.

Hope this is helpful

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Aug 2015, 19:52    Post subject:  

Only option to test is to erase a disk and dd. Thus, MUST use Installation Option A to a 16GB USB stick. System booted to desktop.

Anyone else notice the "LANGUAGE" improvement made by Barry? Not sure how to use it as I dont see documentation, but, seemingly this is a 1st in Linux Puppy's kennel.

Only PC I had is a 64bit 5GB for testing matching the prescribed requirements. 1.5GB is lost and unusable. But, the remaining looks like an advancement.
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