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Carolina 1.3 won't create file in USB NTFS file system
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netfrog77

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Sep 2015, 23:00    Post subject:  Carolina 1.3 won't create file in USB NTFS file system  

Hi all,

I really like the speed & features of Carolina 1.3, but for some reason it is not allowing me to create a new file in my external usb drive with NTFS file system. I can modify an existing file, but can't create a new one.
It does not matter whether I use the XFE file explorer, PCMan, or terminal with shell commands. I just get a 'permission denied' message. Of course, I am the standard Puppy 'root' user and permissions shown in XFE are 'rwx' for owner 'root'.

Can anyone suggest a solution?

Thanks,
Bob
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Sat 19 Sep 2015, 23:26    Post subject:  

When you click on the desktop drive icon for the USB drive.
Does it open, in a file manager, showing the contents, with no error or warning messages?

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netfrog77

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Sep 2015, 17:29    Post subject:  

I have it set up for automatic mounting so it is ready to go.
I have not seen any error messages.
It is available for file viewing and I seem to be able to modify existing files, just not create new ones.
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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Sun 20 Sep 2015, 19:15    Post subject:  

I tested creating files and folders on a USB Flash and USB HDD, both with ntfs formats, it works ok for me using Thunar file manager.

All I can suggest is boot without the savefile and see if it works correctly for you, that should determine whether it's the drive or your savefile at fault.

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netfrog77

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Sep 2015, 22:20    Post subject:  

Thanks for your help.
I will experiment with using / not using the savefile & see what happens.
I will also change the auto-mount & mount it with the desktop icon to see what that does. It seems to me that it originally worked OK, but at some point just started acting this way; but I don't know what would have caused it.

I will post the results of my experimentation when I'm done.
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netfrog77

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 19:10    Post subject:  

Changed from Auto Mount in Pmount to just using desktop icon.
Does solve the problem, but not as convenient.
Here is info from 'mount' command & permissions shown for usb drive folders:

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Mounted via Desktop icon:

/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/sdb1 type fuseblk (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
User: root Group: root Permissions: drwxrwxrwx

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Mounted via Pmount: Mount partition at boot

/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/sdb1 type ntfs (rw,relatime,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dmask=077,nls=iso8859-1,errors=continue,mft_zone_multiplier=1)
User: root Group: root Permissions: drwx------

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As you can see the NTFS file system is mounted differently by Pmount & does not work properly: note the type "ntfs" & different permissions.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to change the mounting within Pmount ?

I have not tried a fresh boot w/o savefile yet, but suspect the problem has to do with the Pmount program & will not be affected by the savefile.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 20:38    Post subject:  

netfrog77 wrote:
As you can see the NTFS file system is mounted differently by Pmount & does not work properly: note the type "ntfs" & different permissions.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to change the mounting within Pmount ?

I have not tried a fresh boot w/o savefile yet, but suspect the problem has to do with the Pmount program & will not be affected by the savefile.


I'll look at that and see what can be done

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 21:21    Post subject:  

Quote:
I have it set up for automatic mounting so it is ready to go.

How did you do this?

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 21:58    Post subject:  

Could try using this:

Startmount-0.5.5 Drive automount and program starter
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50845

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2015, 22:01    Post subject:  

Pmount: "Mount partition at boot" check box, when mounting a partition.
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netfrog77

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Sep 2015, 11:12    Post subject:  

Hi All,

Thanks to bigpup for the 'Startmount' .pet link.
Installed & works perfectly for mounting the usb NTFS partition.

Thanks to Geoffrey for looking into the problem with Pmount.
Hope a solution is not too difficult - it would be good to have the 'built-in' method mount usb NTFS partitions properly..

Best regards to all,
Bob (netfrog77)
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