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YaPI (yet another Puppy Installer) install any Puppy iso
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L18L


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Dec 2015, 04:59    Post subject: YaPI  

bigpup wrote:
If the puppyinstaller151211 is just to show what it will look like. OK.
Sorry, forgot to answer this: Yes just look is enough.

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Wish some people besides you and me would jump in with testing.
Your wish has been fulfilled. Very Happy

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Did we scare mavrothal off ?
No, I don 't think so. He is busy with woof-CE. BTW, it is always good to follow the links he puts into his posts.

As for burn things, as i don't have neither burner nor CD/DV/blu-ray, the only thing I can add to that discussion is:
This script should be for novices also, no confusing questions about speed and multisession:
burn should always use slowest speed.
burn should always use enable multisession.

dd can be used to write iso on usb stick.
This iso should always be converted by isohybrid to be used on any system, BIOS and EFI.
Yes, there are tools to make use of full size of the stick.
Just my 0.03 EUR for burning.
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Dec 2015, 12:02    Post subject:  

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About CD/DVD burning. This script should be for novices also, no confusing questions about speed and multisession:
burn should always use slowest speed.
burn should always use enable multisession.

Definitely set the burn speed low and do not give option to change it.
I think a lot of CD/DVD boot problems are caused by burning the iso image too fast.
I never use any burn speed higher than 8.

zigbert's Pburn works very well, but it does give lots of options.
Well, it is a feature rich Burn program.

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As for burn things, as i don't have neither burner nor CD/DV/blu-ray,

If you code it. We will test it!!!

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 11:47    Post subject: YaPI
Subject description: is Yet another Puppy Installer
 

Rebuilt from scratch...and far away from alpha...

Just play with it please.

Two things are working:
- Use entire device where iso is dd'ed to.
- if isobooter is found iso is copied into this partition.

In my working example:
- sdc is a USB stick with the isohybrid fd64-701.iso (no DOS partition table thus not in the menu)
- sdd is a USB stick with isobooter
- you can start from command line using 'this' and other parameters, see usage..


Need info about CD/DVD writer (PuppyPin line) ? Is it 'drive_sr0' ???
Any suggestions for improving TEXT and HELP welcomed.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 13:04    Post subject:  

Tried it briefly.
In the "forgotten" search, does not search the mounted devices!
If no ISOs are found Xdialog runs and having nothing to display spits an error screen.
Last searched partition stays mounted.
When you cancel after a successful search spits an error about missing vmlinuz then a help screen and then the make a choice window. If you cancel again then it quits.
No further testing/looking into it.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 14:08    Post subject: Tried it briefly.
Subject description: fixed
 

mavrothal wrote:
Tried it briefly.
In the "forgotten" search, does not search the mounted devices!

That was intended.
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If no ISOs are found Xdialog runs and having nothing to display spits an error screen.
Thank you, fixed. (I hope so, can not test)
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Last searched partition stays mounted.
When you cancel after a successful search spits an error about missing vmlinuz then a help screen and then the make a choice window. If you cancel again then it quits.
Thank you, fixed. (tested)
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No further testing/looking into it.
I do like short reports Very Happy )
Thank you again
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 15:14    Post subject: Re: Tried it briefly.
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L18L wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
Tried it briefly.
In the "forgotten" search, does not search the mounted devices!

That was intended.

Does not make a lot of sense (since I forgot where it is...) but should at least say so instead of "all plugged-in devices"
L18L wrote:
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If no ISOs are found Xdialog runs and having nothing to display spits an error screen.
Thank you, fixed. (I hope so, can not test)
The Xdialog error is fixed but still displays a "cryptic" help screen. Even worse, it now quits if click OK on the found SFS
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Last searched partition stays mounted.
When you cancel after a successful search spits an error about missing vmlinuz then a help screen and then the make a choice window. If you cancel again then it quits.
Thank you, fixed. (tested)

Now unmounts at the end of the search OK. However, if you select cancel at the results screen the partition mounts an error about vmlinuz missing comes up and it quits. If you select OK, the partition mounts, unmounts and exits with the help screen and goes back to the 'Choice' window Shocked Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 19:16    Post subject: Re: YaPI
Subject description: is Yet another Puppy Installer
 

L18L wrote:
(...)
Need info about CD/DVD writer (PuppyPin line) ? Is it 'drive_sr0' ???
Any suggestions for improving TEXT and HELP welcomed.
Hello L18L.

In your picture above, I cannot read the opaque blue line properly, but if
this is what you are asking:

In Puppy, CD/DVD drives on your system are listed as:
sr0 whatever_description

OR

sr0 whatever_description
sr1 whatever_description
if you have two CD/DVD drives on your system.

Usually, in your /mnt directory listing, and in PBurn, cdrom refers (is
linked) to sr0 and dvd refers (is linked) to sr1. But if you have only one
CD/DVD drive, cdrom and dvd both refer (are linked) to sr0. You can also
see this -- and modify it -- in the CD/DVD wizard.

I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 19:29    Post subject:  

puppyinstaller151220a.gz

Not sure what to report.
This version of the installer seems to be a step back not forward.
Only get to the "Make a choice which Puppy to install".
After that nothing seems to progress in any kind of logical process or without errors.

puppyinstaller151211
This version seemed a lot more complete and finished.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec 2015, 19:39    Post subject:  

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Any suggestions for improving TEXT and HELP welcomed.

When I understand what is suppose to happen, at what step.
I will be able to, maybe, offer some suggestions.

Keep it going.
We know you can do it!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Dec 2015, 07:03    Post subject: Re: Tried it briefly.
Subject description: fixed
 

mavrothal wrote:
Does not make a lot of sense (since I forgot where it is...) but should at least say so instead of "all plugged-in devices"
Thank you. Waiting for exact wording...
mavrothal wrote:
The Xdialog error is fixed but still displays a "cryptic" help screen. Even worse, it now quits if click OK on the found SFS
a photo of that "cryptic" help screen would be nice. Who finds SFS?
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mavrothal wrote:
Now unmounts at the end of the search OK. However, if you select cancel at the results screen the partition mounts an error about vmlinuz missing comes up and it quits. If you select OK, the partition mounts, unmounts and exits with the help screen and goes back to the 'Choice' window Shocked Very Happy

Thanks. Hope I can fix this.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Dec 2015, 07:26    Post subject: Re: YaPI
Subject description: is Yet another Puppy Installer
 

musher0 wrote:
I hope this helps.

Thank you, Yes and no.

No, I wanted the line in file PuppyPin.
And only cd writer, not for cd reader.
Offer writer only for burn.

Yes, you made re-thinking the use of PuppyPin.
My PuppyPin displays a maximum of 10 for one device (there are more than 10).
It also depends on configuration.
Parsing /sys/block/* comes to mind.
Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Dec 2015, 07:37    Post subject: puppyinstalle
Subject description: Not sure what to report.
 

bigpup wrote:
Only get to the "Make a choice which Puppy to install".

Do you have the iso of your install in a mounted location?
Do you have any other puppy.iso in a mounted location?
Do you have any other puppy.iso in a not mounted but plugged-in location?
What did you expect?
What did you choose?
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Keep it going.
It is no more "just add a bit to old PUI" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Dec 2015, 10:49    Post subject:  

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It is no more "just add a bit to old PUI"

Why?
You seemed to be getting close to making it work by just adding the option to the old PUI.

With the latest version puppyinstaller151220a.gz.
mavrothal has already reported a lot of what I am seeing, so I did not see a need to also report.
Sorry if I gave you the idea I was seeing different problems.

Maybe a statement on what you are trying to make it do would help. Idea
That way, if I do not see it do something, I will know it is a problem.

Example:
Make choice which Puppy to install
Choose:This running Puppy
Installer should do this........
Than this.......
Now this........
Now you will get this option........
Etc.......

If you are coding from completely fresh start.
You know what you are trying to make it do.
We do not. Shocked Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue 29 Dec 2015, 13:30    Post subject: YaPI
Subject description: 2015-12-29
 

bigpup wrote:
If you are coding from completely fresh start.
You know what you are trying to make it do.
We do not. Shocked Laughing

I did try too much at a time. Embarassed

Reduced it to:
a CLI tool
Other isos found in mounted and not mounted storage locations.
Superfloppy mode by Extra button
frugal or full after selection of partition.
partition numbered greater than 9 in use
Size checked.

Enjoy
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Dec 2015, 16:50    Post subject:  

Running in Tahrpup 6.0.5

yapi_2015-12-29

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Other isos found in mounted and not mounted storage locations.

It finds stuff in mounted locations
Nothing found in unmounted locations.

When it gets to the point of finding a location for install.
It seems to lockup.
I get to this point:
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