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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Aug 2017, 17:04    Post subject: trying woof
Subject description: cant get into to X
 

I've tried to build a 32-bit Slacko 6.9.9.9, using kernel 4.4 (choice number 24 in the Kernel chooser)..

I simply tried to build a Slacko 6.9.9.9 RC3, by using the latest Woof snapshot, with al ldefault options.

I also used an older one from a few weeks back.. Both times I have not been able to boot to X .. I get a 'no screens found message'..

The latest Woof-CE snapshot gave me a 'xorgwizard-automatic not found' error (line 117 of xwin I think), and the second and third builds I did using slightly older Woofs did not have this error message, but they still could not boot to X ..

I tried every option in xorgwizard, and am able to get a desktop on other pups on the same hardware..

Any ideas?

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Aug 2017, 17:24    Post subject:  

@sc0ttman

Try the rationalise branch, it's the one that I used last.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 05:28    Post subject:  

Billtoo wrote:
@sc0ttman

Try the rationalise branch, it's the one that I used last.

ok will do, cheers

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 05:31    Post subject: Re: trying woof
Subject description: cant get into to X
 

sc0ttman wrote:
I simply tried to build a Slacko 6.9.9.9 RC3, by using the latest Woof snapshot, with al ldefault options.

6.9.9.9 was build with woof 126 commits earlier than the current snapshot.
It shouldn't, but something may have broken the slacko build since.
Try to clone the entire git repo and then
Code:
git checkout 762210b829267e394fe69ae109adf9587dcdf39a #the commit 6.9.9.9 was build from

Or if you do not want to clone the entire git browse to the said commit and download from there.
If this builds OK file a bug in github
BTW, rationalize is just 14 commits behind testing. No other difference. If this works that narrows down the bug a lot.

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 06:12    Post subject:  

The day before yesterday I built a Slacko 6.9.9.9 RC3 too ( testing branch of 2017-07-31 ) and also chose kernel 4.4.70 PAE

Everything went without problems and Distro is working great.
Thanks for this awesome work.

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc28875 Kernel: 4.4.70 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: ASRock model: H87 Pro4 serial: M80-xxxxxxxxxxx
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P1.90 date: 12/06/2013
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-4770S (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 800/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 163x52 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Intel Ethernet Connection I217-V driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (0.1% used)
Info: Processes: 190 Uptime: 1:17 Memory: 505.5/15863.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
screenshot_800x500.jpg
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 Filesize   91.39 KB
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screenshot_800x500.jpg

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 10:27    Post subject:  

I did a fresh install of woof-CE then did a build using the rationalise branch.
I get the same result as sc0ttman, x won't start.

EDIT:
Last night I did a build on another pc where woof-CE was installed jul15th,using the rationalise branch.
Boots to the desktop no problem.

Here's the build that was done on the jul15 woof-CE install,
rationalise branch:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc12281 Kernel: 4.4.70 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Gateway model: FX6860 serial: 109726660000629
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 04/19/2011
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-2600 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/3401 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: nvidia tty size: 124x27 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2031.9GB (0.0% used)
Info: Processes: 220 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 193.4/16192.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 12:43    Post subject:  

DISTRO_SPECS should show exactly which woof branch and commit a puppy is build from. This info (assuming no "manual" post processing) is much more specific than date or commit number, and more helpful when try to track down potential problems.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 13:02    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
DISTRO_SPECS should show exactly which woof branch and commit a puppy is build from. This info (assuming no "manual" post processing) is much more specific than date or commit number, and more helpful when try to track down potential problems.


This is the jul15th woof-CE install:

#One or more words that identify this distribution:
DISTRO_NAME='Slacko Puppy'
#version number of this distribution:
DISTRO_VERSION=6.9.9.9
#The distro whose binary packages were used to build this distribution:
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT='slackware'
#Prefix for some filenames: exs: slackosave.2fs, slacko-6.9.9.9.sfs
DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX='slacko'
#The version of the distro whose binary packages were used to build this distro:
DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION='14.2'
#the kernel pet package used:
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='Huge_Kernel'
DISTRO_XORG_AUTO='yes'
DISTRO_DB_SUBNAME='slacko14.2'
DISTRO_TARGETARCH='x86'
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='rationalise;7a95a9e;2017-06-28 19:41:26 +1000'

*******************************************************************************************

This is from the woof-CE install done this morning, X failed to start.

#One or more words that identify this distribution:
DISTRO_NAME='Slacko Puppy'
#version number of this distribution:
DISTRO_VERSION=6.9.9.9
#The distro whose binary packages were used to build this distribution:
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT='slackware'
#Prefix for some filenames: exs: slackosave.2fs, slacko-6.9.9.9.sfs
DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX='slacko'
#The version of the distro whose binary packages were used to build this distro:
DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION='14.2'
#the kernel pet package used:
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='Huge_Kernel'
DISTRO_XORG_AUTO='yes'
DISTRO_DB_SUBNAME='slacko14.2'
DISTRO_TARGETARCH='x86'
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='rationalise;bdab886;2017-07-29 17:54:31 +0800'
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 13:49    Post subject:  

It would appear that there are several X related commits and also several package template related commits between the "good" and the "bad" builds.
If you have the opportunity you may want to try building from ed23309c and/or ffd2229 and hopefully narrow down the range a bit more.

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 15:40    Post subject:  

Here the DISTRO_SPECS of my Slacko:

#One or more words that identify this distribution:
DISTRO_NAME='Slacko Puppy'
#version number of this distribution:
DISTRO_VERSION=6.9.9.9
#The distro whose binary packages were used to build this distribution:
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT='slackware'
#Prefix for some filenames: exs: slackosave.2fs, slacko-6.9.9.9.sfs
DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX='slacko'
#The version of the distro whose binary packages were used to build this distro:
DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION='14.2'
#the kernel pet package used:
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='Huge_Kernel'
DISTRO_XORG_AUTO='yes'
DISTRO_DB_SUBNAME='slacko14.2'
DISTRO_TARGETARCH='x86'
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;bdab886;2017-07-29 17:54:31 +0800'
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 15:56    Post subject:  

I did a new install of woof-CE testing branch and did a new build, it
has the same problem as the rationalise branch in that X won't start.

#One or more words that identify this distribution:
DISTRO_NAME='Slacko Puppy'
#version number of this distribution:
DISTRO_VERSION=6.9.9.9
#The distro whose binary packages were used to build this distribution:
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT='slackware'
#Prefix for some filenames: exs: slackosave.2fs, slacko-6.9.9.9.sfs
DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX='slacko'
#The version of the distro whose binary packages were used to build this distro:
DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION='14.2'
#the kernel pet package used:
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='Huge_Kernel'
DISTRO_XORG_AUTO='yes'
DISTRO_DB_SUBNAME='slacko14.2'
DISTRO_TARGETARCH='x86'
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;6e9bb39;2017-07-31 17:43:50 +0800'

So I did a fresh install of woof-CE with both testing and rationalise
branchs and neither one will built a working slacko 32bit.

Oh my Sad
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 16:34    Post subject:  

@Billtoo

when I understand this correctly, your used rationalise and my used testing branch became merged and are absolutely identical

BUILD_FROM_WOOF='rationalise;bdab886;2017-07-29 17:54:31 +0800'
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;bdab886;2017-07-29 17:54:31 +0800'

I remember that a while ago the 20-intel.conf file has been added to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Driver and acceleration method are defined for card0

Your computer has two graphics cards ( intel and nvidia )
Which card is card0 and which is card1 ?
In case that nvidia is card0, this could become a problem.

Could you delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf and try to boot for test please.
It's only a guess, but could be the reason.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 17:50    Post subject:  

norgo wrote:
@Billtoo

when I understand this correctly, your used rationalise and my used testing branch became merged and are absolutely identical

BUILD_FROM_WOOF='rationalise;bdab886;2017-07-29 17:54:31 +0800'
BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;bdab886;2017-07-29 17:54:31 +0800'

I remember that a while ago the 20-intel.conf file has been added to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Driver and acceleration method are defined for card0

Your computer has two graphics cards ( intel and nvidia )
Which card is card0 and which is card1 ?
In case that nvidia is card0, this could become a problem.

Could you delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf and try to boot for test please.
It's only a guess, but could be the reason.


Hi,

I installed the latest woof-CE (rationalise branch) this morning to a new work directory on
my Gateway i7 hard drive, did a build and X wouldn't run.

The Gateway only has 1 graphics card as far as I know, Nvidia 560 ti.
I downloaded the kernel source sfs from ibiblio and the proprietary
driver from the Nvidia site and compiled it, have to blacklist the
nouveau kernel module and reboot first.

**********************************************************************

I installed the latest woof-CE (testing branch) this afternoon to a new
work directory on my HP Phenom II, AMD 6 core processor, did a build and X wouldn't run.

The rationalise branch install that did work on the Gateway was built
in the jul15 work directory on the HP hard drive (different partition too)

It seems that both branchs were updated on the same day, neither will
build a working 32 bit slacko.

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug 2017, 18:17    Post subject:  

I used the compare feature at github page and got the message nothing to compare, because both are identical.
In my case this version is working like a charm.

I'm quite sure that your i7 has a graphics chip included Wink
Of course I don't know the hardware of your HP computer.
As I mentioned, it's only a guess and actual easy to test.

greetings
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Aug 2017, 01:34    Post subject:  

If X tried to start and failed should produce a /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. Also the /initrd/tmp/dmesg.txt file could be informative and maybe the /initrd/tmp/bootinit.log file
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